DepressMyCNS

DepressMyCNS t1_j1rv7mn wrote

Well I've never tried the Edition XS but I have used the set they were based off of, the Anandas for a quite a while. I thought they sounded amazing for music and gaming. The sound stage is where they really shine, it almost sounds like you don't even have headphones on, it's more like you're sitting in a room with speakers paced about 5 feet to the sides of you producing not only a spaciousness on the x axis but the y and z as well, basically it adds an incredible 3d realism to everything you listen to. The bass response is really rich and detailed, it can be eq'd to 6+db and still retains detail and doesn't get muddy, mids and vocals are very clear and forward, meanwhile the highs are brilliant and sharp, not as sharp as some sets like the Senhiessser HD800s, but still a brilliant treble range.

I hope this helps you with your decision, I know it's not the exact pair of headphones but they are very similar. Happy holidays!

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DepressMyCNS t1_j1rawdt wrote

Ahhh okay, I wasn't sure because my HD800s came with a 4.4mm balanced cable as well as the 1/4 inch cable. So I thought it was possible. They cost like $200 to replace each cable it's nuts. Honestly upgrading to balanced connection can provide a lot more volume depending on the source usually it almost doubles the output.

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DepressMyCNS t1_j1pvfm0 wrote

It actually is a small issue as 3.5mm can't provide a Balanced connection meaning you can't used a DAC/Amp with truly Balanced outputs, even if you adapt 3.5mm to 4.4mm or 2.5mm its not going to be able to benefit from a Balanced connection because the signal gets converted back to 3.5mm before the signal goes up the cord. I would reccomend buying a replacement 2.5mm to 4.4mm if that's something you care about and your dac offers it. Otherwise the 3.5mm to 6.3 adapter isn't going to make much of a difference because 6.3 connections are rarely if ever Balanced.

So it depends on your situation if that's an issue or not.

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DepressMyCNS t1_j1pmldx wrote

The k612 is a $200 headphone? You honestly think that sounds the same as a set costing several thousands? Man, I almost wish I had your ears, could save myself some money. I'll take having good ears and being able to tell what real quality is though. You seem to just want to justify your purchase and shit on others. Maybe it's time to put the keyboard away and go listen to some music!

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DepressMyCNS t1_j1pll7y wrote

I'll keep my Senhiessser HD800s and hifi stereo. I'm sure this guy thinks that the 650s can be EQd to sound like the HD800s' though. 😂

Ive had a few dozen pairs of headphones as well before I found my ultimate setups, even then I rotate between them depending on the listening situation. I'm laughing so hard at this guy trying to argue and insult you, even taking the time to switch threads to keep arguing.

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DepressMyCNS t1_j1n8da1 wrote

What it really boils down to is the dt770, while a good and well respected set of headphones, is not a high end pair of headphones. It's still firmly in the range of cheaper consumer grade electronics. I've never listened to them myself before but I've heard they're lacking in several areas. I tested almost every gaming headset on the market back in 2019-2020 and I found the SteelSeries Arctis Pro to be a great gaming headset with really hifi sound, especially if you get it with the Game DAC. For about $350 it sounds as good as a lot of my $700 plus headphones.

Edit: Downvoted for telling the truth.

Take a look at that treble response curve.

https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/beyerdynamic/dt-770-pro

Also notice that 6.5 for gaming. Compared to the 8.0 gaming score of the Arctis Pro. Meanwhile it has a much better treble response while staying close in the lows and mids. I'll back my shit up.

https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/steelseries/arctis-pro-wireless

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DepressMyCNS t1_iybl9e4 wrote

Haha I'll have to get myself a golden ear trophy for my decorations lol. Seriously though I understand the sentiment of saying "there's no difference", music is music after all, and both do sound fantastic, but after spending $2600 on headphones, dac/amp and $7000 on a hifi Dolby Atmos setup I wanted to make sure I was getting the most out of my equipment. Another reason I spent the time testing was because I was subscribed to 3 different streaming services at the time and wanted to save some money by switching to just one. I literally sat there and compared 5-10 second long segments of songs and listened to specific tonal qualities of the instruments and vocals, how long the resonances lasted, minute background details such as breaths being taken or fingers scraping against strings, keys clacking, noise floor etc. Extreme critical listening stuff your average person isn't checking for when just putting something on to jam to. I think that's the perfect setup honestly lossless at home lossy on the go. Luckily I live in an area with really good 5g coverage so I can just stream 16-bit or 24-bit lossless straight from Qobuz without buffering. Best of both worlds really.

Have you had a chance to listen or compare and 16 to 24 bit music? Surprisingly there's a difference there as well, it's much more subtle but it has a slight loudness boost and way better depth to the low end of tracks. The first 24 bit CD I bought was Post Malone's Beerbongs and Bentleys and I had to adjust my subwoofer from the added bass 😂. Also have you heard any DOLBY Atmos or 360 Audio content? It's not lossless but it adds a whole different feel to music as well having specific instruments sounding as if they're placed throughout the room not coming from the speakers, it's evolutionary stuff, I can't wait till they come up with a lossless spatial audio now that will be something!

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DepressMyCNS t1_iy9xkoh wrote

I'm sorry but the difference between FLAC and MP3 is very apparent to me. At least when using my DAC/Amp combo with my HD800s or listening on my hifi speakers. I've sat and compared specific sections of songs for clarity and lack of added noise etc. When I was testing out streaming services. The results were very clear, 320kbps has less detail in the specific tonal qualities of instruments and has an added noise floor, meanwhile FLAC has the cleanest noise floor, retains the most details in the instruments and has a much better bass response (this even takes effect on my car stereo which is not the greatest). I also confirmed there is a difference between "True Lossless" and "Compressed Lossless" Tidal MQA was better than mp3, but the noise floor presented its own artifacts that when compared to true lossless flac from Qobuz. Lastly there's a difference between 16-bit and 24-bit if you can't hear the differences you're either being limited by your equipment(unlikely, as mentioned shitty car stereo picked up these differences too), limited by your hearing, or you just don't know what you're listening for when it comes to comparing format quality. Since discovering the beauty of FLAC I've loved going back to old albums I loved and hearing all kinds of new details I never picked up before. It honestly transforms some songs completely, especially older music from the 90s and earlier.

But all that technical nitpicking aside, honestly I'd rather listen to 128kbps than have no music at all.

TL;DR FLAC is honestly much better for a lot of reasons, I spent hours testing with high-end and low end gear to make sure I was getting the best value.

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