FunLife64

FunLife64 t1_je81zsm wrote

All of them are safe if you aren’t doing anything stupid.

That being said, I find Federal Hill to be a little more rough around the edges/lack of curb appeal. You get this in a lot of PVD…I think some of it is because street parking overnight wasn’t allowed until recently so people would pave wherever they could create a parking space.

That being said, I do like the Fox Point area as you can walk downtown, Collrge Hill, you have the park along the water, and can walk to Wayland easily as well. Depending where you’re moving from that is - some people think a 10 minute walk to go somewhere is crazy! Ha It’s also super convenient to hop on the interstate.

Just note that finding housing for “working professionals” isn’t as easy as you may expect. There’s a lot of grad students living in the area given proximity to Brown and other schools. There’s not a lot of undergrads but there are some (undergrads typically live very close to campus, grad students can venture to Wayland, Hope Village, Fox Point). It’s pretty common in PVD to have multi family homes- so 2 or 3 units in a house. Be mindful of who lives in the unit (this goes for any neighborhood).

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FunLife64 t1_jdwr9ge wrote

Yeah that’s why I said I’ve seen them for sale….but given the size sometimes those types of places aren’t primary residences.

I’ve never seen a soul when I go in the arcade. Obviously those condos aren’t housing many people just given their size - guessing most are solo occupied. Hence not a good example of residences contributing to pedestrian traffic!

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FunLife64 t1_jdrbcbv wrote

Um you realize they don’t just point at land and poof a building appears? They have to buy land, pay to develop it, build, maintain, etc.

JWU’s economic impact is quite strong. They are tax exempt as a university just as any university across the country is along with all churches, non-profits, etc.

I love when people villainize Rhode Island’s schools though.

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FunLife64 t1_jdram83 wrote

There was an article I think in NY Times about transitioning commercial to residential and how it’s just a disaster.

The Arcade is an interesting example - do people actually live in those? I’ve seen them for sale but they are ridiculously tiny. And not a great example of keeping a building afloat haha

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FunLife64 t1_jdqgf2z wrote

Pizza coin has 65 reviews on Google which is very few. You can’t trust ratings with that few of reviews (ie their family, friends, etc can be 75% of them).

Pizza Marvin hasn’t been open that long and is a small shop…has 266 reviews.

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FunLife64 t1_jdozduo wrote

I mean the mall was part of PVDs downtown re-emerging. It’s not like downtown today is some run down ghost town. Brick n mortar “Shopping” in general is dying, mall or not. It’s not like Worcester and Hartford have Crate & Barrel and Anthropologie downtown cause they don’t have a mall. The mall still brings lots of people to downtown PVD.

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FunLife64 t1_jdmzw3u wrote

The lack of chains (particularly restaurants) in PVD is very diff than most cities. Would one build a mall like this in 2023? No. But it does bring people and activity to PVD - you can complain about those people but many of them are going to restaurants outside of the mall, etc. Also, walk down Westminster after 5-6 pm and none of those stores are even open. There’s been chatter about converting parts of the mall into residences, for example, which I think is interesting.

The land around the mall is developed. The Jewelry District/195 plots have been sitting vacant for sale for years.

Yet there’s still people complaining about those lots getting developed. One company was trying to build their HQ in one plot by the Shell station/Trader Joes - right off of interstate exits. And residents complained it would bring too much traffic. Yes, let’s run businesses out of PVD because of…traffic.

I wouldn’t say “growth mindset” is Providence’s forte. 🙃

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FunLife64 t1_jdmuum0 wrote

It’s not uncommon for cities/states to come to agreements on things that bring economic development. The trade off is obviously either economic impact (I guess a mall bringing people into the city) or solid jobs (a mall has some decent jobs but not exactly a lot of great jobs).

The mall has done a lot for PVD - I’m surprised whenever I’m there how busy it is. Now obviously places like Gap closing has little to do with Prov Place, just that Gap is struggling.

That being said, it always cracks me up how people go after the universities - without them PVD wouldn’t have a lot going for it. They have so many good jobs and bring so much economic impact (ie JWU culinary).

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