GrimReader710

GrimReader710 t1_j1rt64n wrote

You're right. I need to go back and do some better research apparently.

Most of what I know about Frued is in relation to his nephew. Thanks for the correction

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GrimReader710 t1_iuwf64g wrote

"the Soviets weren't going to send anything"

Um what about the Cuban missile crisis?? The Soviets sent troops, planes, missiles... Oh my!

"There's a reason Castro distrusted the Soviets"

I'd be interested to see the evidence for this; to my understanding Castro supported strengthening ties with the Soviets, Che did not. It was a major disagreement between the two, and is attributed a reason for their eventual falling out.

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GrimReader710 t1_iushs4d wrote

Completely agree. Not a huge Kennedy fan (too soon?), So I'm def not defending him.

I also agree, it's bizarre how involved a president is in a clandestine operation like that. But considering how much executive power has increased to include that stuff in the last 60-70 years, it's not that surprising in retrospect. (Not a good thing tho!)

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GrimReader710 t1_ius9yr7 wrote

I could see it that way.

Another way of looking at it tho; Kennedy was pulled into a harebrained scheme, and pulled the plug at the last minute, to avoid a catastrophe.

With American support, the initially invasion would've probably been a success, and secured a beach head.

But beyond that it's entirely conjecture. If the Cuban government wasnt immediately overthrown, then the US would be starting another front less than 60 mi from the mainland; and the Soviets would've sent direct military aid in response.

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GrimReader710 t1_iurylm6 wrote

They (landing force) had been promised both logistical and air support, which they never got. They were also promised reinforcements from the US, which they obviously never got.

In all likelihood, it was probably never planned to follow thru on any of it; they were just throwing another classic CIA "Junk Ball" at their latest political rivals.

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GrimReader710 t1_iur6gnb wrote

"Thank you for the bay of pigs", is what Castro supposedly said to Kennedy after the attempted invasion.

They were poorly equipped, and had no support, and underestimated their enemy; it was US who had a biggest part in it's failure.

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