Hilarias_Glucose_Cup

Hilarias_Glucose_Cup t1_ius92yr wrote

It is going to come down to time and convenience for a lot of people. It is a toss up to me whether I sneak it in my trash or if i'd rather deal with the 20 minute ride to the dump, waiting in line behind a bunch of contractors dumping their trash so i can get yelled at by the guy directing cars at the trash center, and then get in line to pay however much it cost to dump it.

If I do the cut it up at home and sneak it in the trash, it may take some time but I'm not dealing with the hassle of the trash place and I can do it at my own pace.

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Hilarias_Glucose_Cup t1_ius2sne wrote

I'll probably take a saws all and cut my old mattress into quarters and bring it to the local dump or slowly cut pieces out, shove them in a trash bag and hope no one notices when i dump the bag in my trash. Could probably get a mattress fully thrown out in 5or 6 weeks by cutting it up and spreading it across two barrels.

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Hilarias_Glucose_Cup OP t1_iuipymw wrote

You are just being a disingenuous. Dartmouth forced the cancellation of the event by adding insurmountable roadblocks. If the original logistics had been allowed by Dartmouth the event would have proceeded. Why do think it is justified that Dartmouth limits the event to students only when they had previously said it was okay for the public to attend? Why do you think it is acceptable to screen questions? Why would they want to insert an unaffiliated speaker ahead of the event? None of that makes any sense unless you look at it from the perspective of wanting to force the event organizers into not coming.

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Hilarias_Glucose_Cup OP t1_iuhysck wrote

I explain the background in the original post, Quite frankly people wanting to split hairs over whether Dartmouth cancelled the event or whether BARPod cancelled are just fixating on that point so they can side step the actual issue. The point is don't schedule an event and then force its cancellation due to adding a bunch of unreachable stipulations because you all of a sudden got nervous over a few potential protesters. This is an ivy league institution that apparently has no checks and balances, or consistent policies in place for events or speakers. Its a joke and we are all suppose to hold this school up as the premier institute of education in the area. They should be embarrassed.

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Hilarias_Glucose_Cup OP t1_iuhy2hy wrote

No, I understand that the college can pretty much do what they want when it comes to on campus events. I guess I'd say in this case, given how close it was to the event that the college should have stayed the course, added some extra security and then saw how it went. I suspect it would have been a big nothing burger as the show is really more about internet bullshit and the impact that cancel culture has on people who have been subjected to it. They are pretty vocal about trans issues but they are more in the Bill Maher school versus coming from a right wing or hateful perspective. Hell one of the hosts is a lesbian van lifer. If that is not enough street cred for coming to Dartmouth, I dont know what is.

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Hilarias_Glucose_Cup OP t1_iuhv6xy wrote

Think of it like this - you booked a wedding for 200 people with a band, food vendor and cake vendor. Five days before the wedding, the venue calls to tell you the guest limit is changed to 50 people only, you cannot have a band or your own food vendor but they will provide a DJ and food from their own vendor, take it or leave it. Of course you are going to walk away. Technically you cancelled but for all intents the venue put in so many restrictions it forced your hand. It is no different.

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Hilarias_Glucose_Cup OP t1_iuhsl7k wrote

Again, semantics. Also - the College can do what it wants. The point is, they wanted to host the event until they did not want to host the event. If no one had filed for a protest no one would have even known the event had happened as the podcast has been doing live events in various locations for the last month with zero incident aside from people having an enjoyable night out.

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Hilarias_Glucose_Cup OP t1_iuhrcve wrote

Again, it is semantics. The agreement was that they were doing the show in partnership with a student group and it was open to the public with no other restrictions. The student group was then removed as sponsor, the college restricted access to students only after tickets were sold and required an opening speech from someone with no association with the event. I believe they also said they would require all questions to be pre-screened. For all intents and purposes they forced the cancellation by adding all the changes.

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Hilarias_Glucose_Cup t1_iu0chu3 wrote

I was referencing the fact that the chance of an authoritarian government in the US is very slim, to the point that it is not worth worrying about regardless of whether a small handful of loons get elected. We have them on both sides of the House right now and they generally don't have any real power aside from being useful idiots to the media.

Regarding the attempted overthrow - you are right, there was an attempt. Learn a lesson from it - keep giving these movements oxygen by pushing an us against them ideology, binary thought on every issue, and picking away at the trust of our institutions and we will have to deal with some of the stuff you are concerned about. Instead of continuing to stoke divide, start being more pragmatic, look to strengthen trust in institutions and things will get better.

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