Def not reckless driving, I would say give someone life in prison for doing something like that.

I was referencing the article that had a list of incidents relating to these groups attacking people. That is why I said what I said. No one in their right mind thinks shooting these children and adults is okay for just riding and having fun

Thank you, I truly appreciate it.

I enjoy target shooting, but if I could snap my fingers and have every firearm gone I probably would. I 100% agree on defense.

There’s an article referenced above with a list of the different times people have ran into trouble with them. They don’t do it where I live but I don’t like to see innocent people get hurt by criminals without any defense.

I’m happy, married, own a home, run a business with my best friend after spending my time “falsely” on an ambulance for many years. I think I’m the happiest I’ve ever been tbh. Thanks though I’ll keep finding it!!

It’s true! I was curious if my encounter was a “one-off” but it seems you really do like to be mean to people. I thought initially you were a troll, but nope, just an unkind person. Honestly, this is far down the line no one else will read this. I hope you find happiness.

Exactly! You should be nicer to people. It’s probably a good thing you are not in EMS.

No you did not, stop lying.

I could just give you a coworkers number or a partners and you’d never be able to tell, doesn’t prove shit.

You’re a troll and no one cares, sadly for you I’m not one of those fucks that has to prove myself to an internet stranger. If you don’t know by how I wrote that I know what’s up then you’re not important enough for me to share my numbers, then you’ll have my name and based on the nature of how you deny obvious information leads me to believe you aren’t sound of in the head. Which is another reason not to dox myself. Have a great day non medic from a fake medic!!

You don’t know the outcome, anything can happen when a group attacks an individual. I would absolutely prefer the bday guy be in a morgue than an innocent woman get beaten by a group. It’s remarkable to me but it seems people have more empathy for the criminal than the innocent, I’m curious why that is

If you DM me yours I’ll DM you mine. And what if I’m from a non national state?!?!

Yeah they can google it, but it’s not about the information, it’s the shorthand vernacular that gives me away. Others too, like reading a run report.

I can see how what I said could be seen that way but that is absolutely not at all what I mean. If someone went out and created trouble for those riding the ATVs I would say they should be charge for assault with a deadly weapon. I merely say that anyone who get aggressed by these groups should have the right to defend themselves.

How bout this as proof “vtach code defibrillated to course vfib with bilateral 18g and 1mg/kg lido on board. eat tube is 7.5 22 at the lip and etco2 43.”

Either I’m a fantastic creative writer or I spent 15 years on a rig, you can choose which to believe.

Nope it was the point that why if I wanted to kill people would I not join the military or police? Kinda odd place for someone to work if they wanna kill. Also my point was about self defense of your life. Not really what I would consider being a bad person.

I love how everyone immediately goes to call me a psycho because I believe a woman who is dragged from her car and beaten has the right to self defense.

I specifically brought up the recent case of a woman and then a man being dragged out from the car and beaten. Is this something you Consider vigilantism to stop the person or persons attacking you? I didn’t speak of vigilantism, that was brought up by you. I believe in adequate self-defense.

No, it will not stop the ATV problem. But it may help stop people from being dragged out of their cars and beaten. Or at the very least give someone the chance to stop themselves from becoming a victim of violent crime.

I actually ride motorcycles, and ATVs, so I’m not actually down for shooting people who do stupid things. What I am down for, is a woman defending herself from being beaten by a group of men on motorcycles.

It is not actually productive to be so hyperbolic.

Actually as a Paramedic, I devoted my life to helping people, and I have. So good try on the wanting to kill people part. Have you ever walked into a murder scene where the person couldn’t defend themselves?

Is it possible that I just see a different solution to a problem? I am all for stopping These events peacefully, however, when Police don’t act for the good of the people, it is up to the people to defend themselves. Also, for a different view, please go and check out r/liberalgunowners for a Liberal view of the second amendment.

This why the second amendment exists. When government does not act it is up to the individual and community to protect themselves. A woman and with her kids were pulled and beaten and it’s not the first time. I know many don’t agree with me here, but how long is it going to be until somebody gets stabbed or killed because of the in action of the police department.

And no, I am not saying pull out a gun and the smallest, but someone feels their life is threatened, and they’re about to be pulled out of the car. They should be able to shoot. The individual was trying to drag them out. We have a right, and we have a right to defend ourselves.

You should reach out to the public safety community as well. You’d be surprised how many people have life changing experiences with psilocybin after suffering a long time with the side-effects of the years of daily trauma exposure.

Well without you paying me, you wouldn’t have sex with my wife. So ultimately I am the one who makes it happen. She’s very happen with you and I’s arrangement btw.

Being as I build homes for a living now, I’m familiar with the process. And funny enough YES! They in fact do!!

Here’s how it works!

Person A has money to build a single family or multi-family structure. The construction firm isn’t going to finance it themselves, they wait usually for someone to approach with a project after securing financing. Then the firm builds it! Isn’t it exciting to learn!! After the build is complete the landlord/owner either rents or lives in the property themselves, although likely with multi-unit structures it goes straight to rental. Hence the landlords are in fact the ones that build homes!! Wasn’t that fun?! I sure had fun :)

Well you decided to engage with me. I already said I disagree early on. Have a great night, I am!