KSRandom195

KSRandom195 t1_j9y6c6e wrote

The problem is this is a law that dictates the formation of a civil contract between private entities.

If news companies want to negotiate a contract with Google and co that has Google pay them to link to their content, let them do that. However, they’ve been unsuccessful at that because they have no leverage. If they delink from Google they stop getting traffic from Google, so they actually lose revenue.

I’d agree that if Google were causing harm regulation would be appropriate. But if the website tells Google to not index them they start losing revenue strongly suggests Google is not doing harm to the website being linked, but is instead providing a mechanism for revenue.

And even if regulation were appropriate, it should not be regulation that mandates a civil contract between two private entities. It should be, “Google cannot link to news sites.” By mandating a civil contract between two private entities it gives artificial leverage to the news companies, which can give unreasonable demands and Google is forced to accept.

Again, the news companies don’t want that outcome because it causes them to lose revenue. So this is only about the news companies having their cake and eating it too.

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KSRandom195 t1_j74njna wrote

Everyone will say this about their pet industry.

“Clearly my industry is harder than all the others because <reason>.”

No, your pet industry isn’t special, it will either be replaced or not like all the others.

Being a technical person, I don’t think AI is where it needs to be yet to replace practically any industries. If I’m wrong, it’s not really a problem I was going to be able to deal with anyway.

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KSRandom195 t1_j6859di wrote

It’s all about money right now. If you let the people make anything then manufacturing companies, farmers, and a whole slew of other industries will go out of business.

That has to be offset by something, which will likely be the distribution of raw materials. Imagine the “carbon guy” showing up to deliver your weeks order of carbon for the fabricator.

As mentioned elsewhere energy is a massive aspect of this, these machines will likely need a lot of energy to work. Not sure you’d be able to just plug it in to your wall socket. That will likely mean the manufacturing companies will use them first as they’d have the resources to set up the energy requirements. But the fiat may be so high that just paying people to do it is better.

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KSRandom195 t1_j5tcsn6 wrote

The context you’re discussing this in is within a post about being frustrated with people saying LLMs aren’t going to revolutionize the universe.

That your referring to LLMs is implied by the context of the post. The whole argument being made is that people like me are wrong because we are “downplaying” the capabilities of LLMs.

In that context you are implying that LLMs will be like the Industrial Revolution and replace our need to think.

I’m saying that claims like yours are where I find fault with that argument. LLMs may be a step on that journey, they may not, but they are definitely not going to cause the AI Revolution on their own

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KSRandom195 t1_j5t8ckm wrote

This is why I get frustrated with claims that LLMs are “it.” LLMs don’t think, so they can’t do this step function you’re talking about. You can’t run an LLM 24/7 and spit out new ideas, because LLMs aren’t actually thinking.

You can pair an LLM with a human and make that human more efficient. But without the human the original thought bit is missing. This is why people are saying that prompt writers are going to be valuable, because some jobs will be replaced with prompt writers.

When you have to add the human back to the mix a lot of the benefit you’re talking about goes away.

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KSRandom195 t1_j4wze16 wrote

I didn’t even say it’d be a sex slave. Odd how you assume that’s where I was going with that.

It’s more like, I don’t need to get in a fight to get my partner to do the dishes. Depending on how advanced the AI gets maybe we do end up where you end up fighting with an AI partner over who does the dishes. But I imagine that we will end up in a place where you could “configure” your AI partner, which would make it far easier to get along with them. There’s no way you could do that with a human partner.

Yes that would eliminate the thrill of the chase involved in the dating scene. But I’m kind of past that now, and it sounds like a lot of people are. Not to mention the standards being set by women are such that over 30% of them won’t find a partner unless they drastically lower their expectations.

Also, if you really want, I’m sure we could “configure” the AI to not be your sex slave and not just do what you want.

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KSRandom195 t1_j4ux76s wrote

The real concern is probably the expectations that get set. If “the average woman considers 80% of men below average” then 30% of women won’t find a man up to her standards and will have to lower their expectations if they want a partner. If an AI is considered at least average, that lowering of expectations doesn’t occur as the AI can fill that gap.

And of course, Futurama had an entire episode on this problem.

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