Arrest warrants don’t do much though. At least in NYC.

Yuna Lee’s killer was arrested for a misdemeanor, and even though he had an arrest warrant another crime, he was still released (and committed that murder shortly after).

>If they commit crime after crime then they'd eventually be convicted

Not if they never show up to trial.

>and put in jail

That depends on the crime.

For example, if someone keeps playing the knock out game and never seriously injury anyone, that will be a misdemeanor assault at best, and that person can avoid jail forever.

>So the idea that the lack of pretrial detention creates all these repeat offenders is bogus.

I don't think any law creates repeat offenders. That's not my position.

However, the law should be able to stop repeat offenders.

And there are clear loopholes right now.

The ones who appear are not an issue.

The ones who never appear are.

The harm to harm rule only applies when the defendant is being charged with a felony, no?

Anyone being charged with a misdemeanor cannot be held under the harm-harm rule.

There's a loophole here though. First, trials don't happen in a timely manner when the defendant is on the street.

Second, if the defendant never shows up for trial, they can never get convicted.

So a person committing petty theft, for example, can do that forever as long as they never show up for trial, under the current laws.

A person committing misdemeanor violence (like playing the knockout game) can also do that forever as long as they never show up for trial.

>it shows that a lot of critics have completely overblown the negative impacts of bail reform.

That difference is actually central to the criticism.

Because almost everyone cares about "how many crimes are being committed" a lot more than "how many criminals are out there".

We should stop associating crimes and poverty.

Being poor is not a crime.

The 99% of people in poverty who never commits any crimes don't deserve this kind of stigma. It's time to stop perpetuating that.

>In terms of overall crime rates, bail reform is mostly just an emotional issue.

That's not quite accurate (emphasis mine).

What's typically measured is not the quantity of crimes (via re-offenses).

They count the quantity of individuals that reoffend: if a single individual commits 50 crimes, that is counted as only 1.

That's a tangible difference on the streets, because most people care about "how many crimes are committed" a lot more than "how many reoffending criminals are out there".

The “overall” part is extremely disingenuous.

Because it counts things like petty theft or disorder conduct as if they are the same as felony violence.

They are very different and shouldn’t be lumped together.

It’s not only misleading, it’s extremely disingenuous to pretend that a reoffense on a petty theft is the same as a reoffense on a felony violence crime.

For these teens there are no consequences in court, and no consequences at home.

I don’t know. The really crazy idea here is assaulting the police, to be honest.

> Shawndel Evans, 26, of Connecticut was arrested in connection with the incident. > > […] her son was visiting a high school pal who lives in the city and may have asked cops to use a cellphone so he could locate his own phone.

There were so many bystanders with a phone, he could’ve asked anyone else before assaulting.

This incident puts a spin in the fear monger anecdote: an out-of-state tourist comes to NYC, then instead of getting assaulted by a criminal, he assaults a cop.

I already responded with the explanation to your question.

Now it's up to you to read it.

Duck sauce killer was let off the hook in a bigger way, commits a murder, and the "advocates" stay mum about that.

That strongly suggests that for the advocates, it's not about crimes and victims, it's just a brainless anti-police political stunt.

Your understanding that mistrust in the police is a major driver in street violence is backed by evidence.

Distrust in the police is a stronger factor than poverty (2.6x stronger) on teenagers committing first-time violence offenses.

But whatever dispute those kids had with the business owner, I don't see how breaking a security camera is a step towards solving anything, and how that ex-cop chasing the kids with a gun helped.

He should've called the police instead of trying to solve matters with his own hands. But at least the kids called the police on him!

Do you honestly believe that deranged people are held to higher standard?

The duck sauce killer was not taken to the police station even after repeated menacing.

He was only arrested after he committed murder.

How is that a higher standard?

Anyone who look at the underlying facts can see that ex-cop was held to a higher standard than a non-cop who end up committing murder.

I think we both agree that cops should be held at a higher standard.

Both were menacing with a gun.

The only saving grace is that this is a federal case.

If it was a NY case, with the crippled judicial system we have, there would be no hope of ever getting George Santos convicted for that.

The fact that the police responded and brought the menacing ex-cop to the police station is at least a step up in enforcement compared how they handled the duck sauce killer. Such action probably reduced the likelihood of this feud from escalating into a murder.

In contrast, the duck sauce killer was only arrested after he murdered someone from the restaurant staff he was menacing.

Simple things like that could deter a crime and it's a lot cheaper than incarceration, etc.

>The project would extend the subway line by 1.5 miles from East 96th Street. It would add three new stations: one at East 106th Street, another at East 116th Street, and a new level beneath the existing platforms at Lexington Avenue and 125th Street.

$7.7B is a lot, but the price tag doesn't mean it's not worthwhile.

Absent from the article is how much the MTA expects to collect in fare revenue from this expansion. Couldn't future fare revenues be used to finance the construction?

Tenants right lesson: treat your tenants well, cause you never know if they will become a famous politician in the future.

>But we have a fundamental disagreement on civil and constitutional rights if you believe that achieving justice and defendant's rights are in opposition to each other.

In spirt, I don't believe they are in opposition.

In practice, if one pursues one side with recklessness, then pursuing one can hurt the other.

Anyone who pretends that's not the case would be denying part of the reason the US end up with mass incarceration.

Now that the pendulum swung over the other direction, defendant's rights are being increasingly overprotected at the expense of the public (at least in NYC). The discovery reform is probably a good recent example of that.

The right for a speedy trial should also apply to The People. If the suspect is free on the streets, the defense should be on the clock to be ready for trial, in my opinion.

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>for guilt and crimes are so frequent in the world

That may have been true in his time, but that line would make John Adams be labelled as a crimes fear-monger in today's NYC.

>A federal judge in New York City on Friday sentenced a pro-Palestinian activist to 18 months in prison for a series of attacks on Jews in 2021 and 2022.

Meanwhile, that rapist case is pending from 2019 and was roaming free.

TIL: the NY justice system is so shitty that the federal justice system is more efficient.

As one of the leading states in the nation, how proud can we really be about NY's judicial system?

>Masoud later messaged a Jewish Instagram account that posted about the incident, saying, “I feel bad for you zionist people when judgment day comes and we slaughter all of them like sheep.”

This guy should've been convicted on terrorism charges, to be honest.