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LFKhael t1_j5uerrp wrote

> In each robbery, the group got into the gun store, broke glass display cases, grabbed numerous guns and fled, the DA's said. 

Really? I've been to Taco Bells with more security than this.

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Ng3me t1_j5ugrg4 wrote

Any gun store that has guns stolen from them should be heavily heavily scrutinized. Gun store security procedures should be airtight. Should be inspected often and owners held accountable for issues. These places leak guns.

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mikewarnock t1_j5upgrc wrote

Agreed. There should be strict liability when it comes to gun thefts. Probably impossible to get a law like that passed in PA though.

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Delfiasa t1_j5wde4i wrote

Right? Meanwhile all the marijuana dispensaries have armed guards, require ID for entry, double door entry system, etc.

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Narwhalbaconguy t1_j5vztrc wrote

Agreed. All gun stores should be required to lock the guns away, not just the store. ESPECIALLY when nobody’s there.

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LFKhael t1_j5uioay wrote

The people who stole are going on trial, and quite likely to fairly serious prison time.

The Taco Bell off the North Philly BSL stop had more security to hand over a fucking bean burrito.

Meanwhile, there's 60 fire arms on the street that we're most likely not recovering because these stores treated security like a joke.

They're going to get paired with stolen cars and used for crimes that will be a nightmare for both the PPD's clearance rates and the DA's conviction rate.

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Ng3me t1_j5uika4 wrote

Another “responsible gun owner against people asking gun owners to behave responsibly.”

Look these places sell dangerous deadly weapons and they are largely left to do whatever they want. We’ve had huge settlements against pharmaceutical companies and distributors for releasing opioids into our communities. The NRA makes sure no gun sellers face any similar consequences. It’s wild. It is well within reason to scrutinize how guns are stored in these stores.

Also, there are already laws against stealing from gun stores and these people are being investigated and pursued.

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nnn62 t1_j5uom5k wrote

Huge settlements against pharmaceutical companies that didn’t even put a dent in their pockets due to how much those scumbags made from pushing those opiates. Settlements don’t do dick, you need stringent regulation.

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sakamake t1_j5v4eig wrote

Yup. Even calling them "huge" settlements is just smoke and mirrors. They aren't meant to punish these companies or change the behavior, they're just a way of making sure the government gets a (relatively small) cut.

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TreeMac12 OP t1_j5ug0eb wrote

Then busted by their own Instagrams:

"Through the use of numerous investigative techniques including interviews, physical surveillance, video surveillance, social media analysis and cellphone data and records, the investigation found that several members of a known, neighborhood-based juvenile street gang in Philadelphia—called “54th Street”—were responsible for the three completed gun store burglaries and one attempted gun store burglary in Montgomery and Bucks counties."

https://www.montcopa.org/ArchiveCenter/ViewFile/Item/5690

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point_breeze69 t1_j5us5i6 wrote

Yea but they were actually from 53rd st they just named themselves 54th st to throw the cops off their trail.

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EnemyOfEloquence t1_j5vrvma wrote

Remember kids, when committing violent felonies leave the phones at home.

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MizterMazer t1_j5w38se wrote

Nah don't remind them. We need these idiots to forget.

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Genkiotoko t1_j5utlg8 wrote

The fact that the average corner store jeweler has tighter security and safe storage practices than several gun stores is an issue.

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WhyNotKenGaburo t1_j5upeou wrote

I know, right!? Founding Fathers Outfitters (profiled in the video half way down the article) has two glass doors with flimsy locks, a bunch of windows on the side that would be relatively easy to climb through, and seemingly no evidence of roller gates on any of them. I'm no expert, but it doesn't seem that glass panes would be a great choice for primary security at a gun store.

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felis_scipio t1_j5vd837 wrote

I’ve used them as an FFL a number of times, great store for doing a transfer but yeah that front door is barely there. During the day they have stuff out in the display cases and on the wall, I guess I always assumed that stuff was put away at night in a more secure room in the back or something.

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WhyNotKenGaburo t1_j5wnl92 wrote

>I guess I always assumed that stuff was put away at night in a more secure room in the back or something.

One would think that this would be a reasonable assumption, but alas...

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Civil_Peak t1_j5wso4x wrote

I think for the ATF regulations (who regulate firearm stores) there rules that says that if they are left out then they need to be moved to a secure room or basically a vault. So If I'm correct in remembering that then really they should be visited by the ATF to make sure they understand the rules.

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AbsentEmpire t1_j5uw04e wrote

Gun stores with such lax security should be held criminally liable. Like what the actual fuck?!

How is it legal to allow gun stores to have zero security for their products when corner stores have tighter security for fried rice.

Fucking ridiculous!

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PhillyPanda t1_j5v4yte wrote

They’d need to enact the laws first. NJ has a framework for gun store security, PA does not. You’d be under negligence type laws.

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ONE_GUY_ONE_JAR t1_j5vooek wrote

Continental Armory was misreported, the thieves couldn't get past the security gate.

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