its almost like we figured it out over 100 years ago when the idea was invented..............

Because you're actually arguing for no ownership. You think you're not, but you're basically saying that communities "own" things, which is crap. Your Native American example is just as bunk as anything else. Not only were the tribes diverse in their customs, the vast majority believed in personal property. Some to the point that people of higher importance got better things. One example, Google "Horse Culture" among Native Americans. The same existed for almost everything and they definitely bartered along themselves with personal possessions. It's been a big topic of research and discussion for economists recently since libertarians use examples of Native American systems all the time. Maybe you're referencing how they didn't own land, but that again is a half truth. Pretty sure there are some famous stories about how the land was bought. Just generalizing the tribes like you did shows the ignorance on display.

You're talking about a system that bucks the trend of 10,000 years of recorded human behavior, and likely the same behavior for all the remaining 200,000 years of unrecorded human existence. People have always owned things and have been reluctant to share. We're defined by this trait for all of our recorded history.

Your example of the 50's is just not applicable here. It's not even close. Being conformist doesn't have anything to do with ownership. Do you even understand what being conformist in the 50s means? Using that as an example is like saying "hey cars went from blocky to sleek in 10 years. Who knows maybe they'll be flying in space soon!" - it's completely ignorant of any other factors that drove certain improvements and puts it squarely on capitalism. You sure it's entirely capitalism and not anything like the availability and increase in desire for education at the same time? It couldn't possibly be a side effect of the civil rights movement snuffing out conformity?

I could keep going. It's amazing how reductive (and frankly just dumb) Redditors are as they try so hard to blame capitalism for literally every problem.

The trend in technology is that it allows us to maintain our lifestyle preferences. It doesn't completely uproot them. Could some unfathomable change happen to flip this trend in the other direction? Sure, but it's unlikely and there are nothing but indicators of the opposite. It's about as likely as me flying to space in an SUV in the next 10 years.

Its never going to happen, and yes it has been tried before. People want things that are their own. Their own space, their own items and commodities, their own foods, etc. Hell we even see it with "My Truth" and stupid other things that shouldn't be.

No-ownership societies have been tried before. Outside of brainwashed cults and communities with less than 30 people, it never works for any significant length of time.

You can have ownership AND a good, fair society. As much as people whine about it on Reddit, the world today is actually closer to that than ever before. Get off the website and go talk to people IRL instead to see it.

"It required being VERY unseated AND ALSO pulling the cable at an angle. We tested it unseated without pulling at an angle, and it didn't fail even if it was equivalently unsocketed"

I feel like you didn't listen, or you replied to me by accident because that timestamp you edited in just supports the conclusion that it was user error.

Yall really so deep in your own bias that you're trying to equate a clip that appears to be inconsequential, and was proven such via dozens of hours of testing and analysis including X-Raying the connectors, to massive thermal issues. Get real. They almost couldn't make the connector fail when they were trying. Who's actually cherrypicking here?

as someone else has pointed out to you, it was Definitively proven as User Error, and a small amount of manufacturing issues where some debris was left in the connector to cause the short. Here's a nice Gamers Nexus video where they spent thousands of dollars going to professional laboratories for analysis and trying to melt the cables:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig2px7ofKhQ

Check your bias. You look stupid here.

Equate it to Nvidia issues... Which were also proven to be manufacturing problems or user error?

Weird flex

The actual issue is that people are different and there is no cure-all for the problem. Some people need exercise, some need portion control, some need special diets, some need hormones fixed, and who knows what else.

The industry is profitable because people are desperate enough to try whatever on the change it works.

It's not a conspiracy. It's just a hard problem. Especially considering that most of the industry is just telling you how to eat or exercise.

Useless comment. If you're going that far, then there isn't a source of power on earth that meets the green requirements.

Including solar, wind, batteries, etc all of which are more carbon intensive to manufacture at scale, especially factoring in mining and refining base materials, than nuclear power.

A nuclear power plant already has 0 carbon output. No reason we should stop it from doing this.

If we had more, we could decarbonize the grid easily and actually have a robust power grid. It's too bad the fear mongering campaigns have worked so well.

> yeah, for Lithium, main concern is water usage. > Seems like excessive water usage is better than radioactive pond for decades, or is it not?

See my other reply to you. Bad faith "research" doesn't make you correct.

> and as for the cobalt, there does not seems to be any environmental problems mining cobalt at all?

You know next to nothing about solar power if you think mining cobalt was the concern here. You're sitting here worried about radiation leaking into the environment, but not a very toxic and virtually un-cleanable substance used in every PV solar panel? Mining it is fine. When one of the hundreds of thousands of panels has a leak and kill off all living things in the surrounding area, or at least makes them unable to reproduce, induces neuropathy, makes you randomly lose your hearing and vision, spikes your cognitive decline, or any one of the other crazy side effects associated with cobalt poisoning, then you start to worry. Its literally more lethal than radiation poisoning, and most of the time more painful. Keeping in mind the studies here were originally conducted with the amount of cobalt used in hip implants. How much do you think this scales with those hundreds of thousands of solar panels, each containing some?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7842236/

> Yes, workers are treated poorly, but that has nothing to do with what type of mineral is mined. That’s more of an political issue, rather than destroying nature for centuries, which is clearly an environmental issue

I wasn't even talking about this, but its a good point to bring up. Workers being treated like shit is horrible. Destroying the environment is horrible. Cobalt will do that permanently.

Nuclear meltdowns however? Well I suggest you look into how life in what I'll call "The scary zone" of Chernobyl is doing. Hint: Creature for creature, plant for plant, they are all doing way better than their cousins outside of the region. Studies are ongoing to see if its just the absence of humans or if the radiation has any part to play in that. IMO its obviously the former, but its an interesting topic nonetheless.

Still I have to ask, given the link below (and assuming you will actually look into the issue with a genuine interest in being accurate rather than just playing politics cause its reddit), exactly what permanent damage has any nuclear power plant caused? I'll wait.

https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/how-chernobyl-has-become-unexpected-haven-wildlife

Now can we stop with the bad faith arguments that are demonstrably incorrect? Renewables are more toxic and harmful to the environment by far. People just pretend they aren't because most of the harmful parts come in the manufacturing step of making these things. People ignore the rest, and we haven't had a big enough PV farm where just a few of the panels leeching cobalt into the environment has caused large amounts of human suffering.

It makes Soil unusable and pollutes water sources with heavy metals while making the air around the area physically harmful to breather.

Then refining it is one of the more toxic processes of all metal refining.

You didn't try to find anything. Even just reading the Wikipedia page gives you more credible sources on the damage it causes, and its obviously way more than "It uses lots of water". Come on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impacts_of_lithium-ion_batteries

Like did you read the first couple sentences and skip the "many accounts of dead animals and ruined farms in the surrounding areas of many of these mines. In Tagong, a small town in Garzê Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture China, there are records of dead fish and large animals floating down some of the rivers near the Tibetan mines. After further investigation, researchers found that this may have been caused by leakage of evaporation pools that sit for months and sometimes even years"?

Lithium mining literally does permanent harm to the area and is incredibly toxic, with those toxins dumped just like anything else.

Now google the same thing for Lithium, needed for batteries.

And cobalt, needed for solar panels.

Maybe we can power the world with wind for a little bit before we run out of neodymium.

You won't ever get a source because it's not true. The only place emitting that much radiation was basically in the middle of the reactor where humans would never go anyway.

And on top of it, nothing nuclear even exploded. It was a steam explosion. The explosion caused a meltdown which, as you mentioned, was very radioactive for a very short time. The meltdown caused the reactor to stop reacting, as we would expect.

And the final cherry on top is that less than 100 deaths can be positively linked to this over 4 decades. The rest is bad science, inconclusive data, and fear mongering. Google the solar deaths in the same timeframe.

But we still get the ignorance all over the place, and we'll end up putting it off right until the last moment when renewables can't power industry well enough to keep up with maintenance and replacements, or we run out of neodymium for wind turbines, or we poison the land with cobalt from a solar panel accident of some kind.