They just need bodies desperately, and I get why, they're a company that handles kids with special needs and families... but it seems like the sort of thing you'd pay people well to do. I can get a job working in a warehouse somewhere in northern Vermont shlepping boxes or doing data entry for right around the same amount, and I guarantee it doesn't come with half the stresses a Howard center job would. They need to think about that, but I sincerely doubt they will... Again, Burlington companies really seem to be missing some things in regards to the job landscape around them and in other places, and I don't understand why.

Pff. I applied there for a lower level position because I was looking to move to the area, and never got a call back or even so much as an email. They always seem to have jobs open, but whatever...

Maybe they should try... Contacting the people who apply. Burlington area companies in general seems to really suck at doing this.

Lol good job getting everyone to help you with your marketing research.

I think I understand why people have the assumption then that this is an escalation of police force and presence. I get the brushback you're giving, but it really doesn't seem hyperbolic, honestly.

If I was personally trying to create some kind of 'ah, but there's more to it' argument, I would point to the fact that they've already stated the 'city' will be used to train emergency services like the fire department in navigating and quickly putting out fires in an urban environment, as well as EMT services with things such as water rescue.

Having said THAT, none of this discounts the very real argument of cutting down 85 acres of forest in Atlanta to accommodate the project, as well as that none of what I just said directly addresses the fear that this space would also be used to train police in various tactics that many would suggest treat civilians as potential threats at best and operators at worst. There's plenty of argument there as well given Atlanta PD's rather varied history with dealing with the local population.

Of the two, I guess I'd probably see the argument of how that 90 million dollars could be better spent directly on training instead of a cool new facility, that arguably sure, has a lot of bells and whistles to it. But I have a feeling this isn't where our disagreement lies. To each his own.

The bigger picture being what?

Is it the assumption that people can't be upset about the demolition of a forest to build a fake city to train police in military tactics? Or more so that you feel as though their outrage is hyperbolic because they're reading into something here that you would assert isn't actually the reality of the situation? I'm not trying to put words in your mouth friend, I'm honestly curious.

If I'm on the mark, I suppose then friend, when you ask about the bigger picture, a lot of the people might see that 'bigger picture' as being the militarization of the police, which they take issue with.

I mean, correct me if I'm wrong... but I thought there were two gentlemen in Europe who found two snowflakes that were alike as a way to pass the time while drinking at a pub. It's been a long while since I read the story though.. could just be nonsense... But I remember reading it years ago

Get some help dude.

I'm sorry you can't handle being called the hypocrite that you are in fact being. Maybe... stop being such a hypocrite, and honestly dude just leave me alone, I didn't ask to be harassed by you today.

No it's when you sit here complaining as much as the people you are trying to criticize. Sorry if that's confusing for you.

No my medical condition is "pointing out the irony in other people complaining about someone's complaining"

Oh god its happening again...

I'm just one of those people with a medical condition that gives you an ultra high tolerance to edibles, and personally I would love a professionally made option that doesn't mean I have to crush an entire bag of x y or z for it to work for me, but given how it's regulated that's not gonna happen.

Like, smoking works fine, I would just love to be able to utilize the alternative now that it's legal, but given my condition I can smoke a little bit, or eat like 50 dollars worth of edibles... and friend, that fucking sucks, especially when you were excited that an alternative was coming to the market.... just uh... not for me apparently.

Cool.

Imagine what they would have looked like if the state hadn't made edibles capped at 5mg like a bunch of fucking idiots.

I'll admit I'm immature (despite this being my first comment in this discussion) if you can explain how the mockery that was invariably a part of Malloy's defeat in fact actually empowered him... despite his loss. That's a very interesting argument to present, and I'd really like to see how that works past just saying that's what the case is. It's hard to equate it to Trump considering this isn't a nationwide thing, it was a Vermont thing, it's not exactly equivalent (some might call it a false equivalence...). But I'll let you explain, since I clearly don't get it.

"I'm not pro either side" "Kill babies" "We need to get back to a common ground"

You should work on practicing what you preach then, and understand the argument isn't "killing babies" like some want to pretend it is, if you're trying to find common ground that is.

I'm going to pretend you actually said any of that in good faith, and I'm going to leave you with the best argument I've ever seen on the matter, just in case you actually do care and aren't just another dick claiming a moral position where none actually exists.

http://humanist.de/wissenschaft/sagan001/

\I really hope you read this. I really do. You say you want to find common ground, you say all these things, but then betray your entire argument by saying you wont read anything.

It's sad. Do better, or just don't share your opinion next time. Nobody has time for myopic bigotry or obtuse arguments, but plenty of people have time for a real discussion. Good day to you as well I guess.

Yay for actual policy based in scientific reality. Vermont is great. You're right.

Which speaks more to the larger issue companies like theirs are creating in Vermont. Personally I don't know what level of vacancy they have, but honestly either way the issue still exists.

These companies... they're taking what little affordable housing Vermont has left, buying it, fixing it up a bit admittedly, but then increasing the rent so that potentially the same person who could afford rent previously now can't, and that's a big fuckin problem for a state that refuses to build affordable housing and also has issues with comparable salaries for similar jobs in other states.

Vermont will suffer the same fate a lot of states are going to find themselves in (more than we already are that is): with a few companies that own all the housing, and a middle to lower class of perpetual renters who have no options to buy to escape the process. Stone and Browning and the like are the new landed gentry.

Add it to the pile while they gentrify the state for their own profit.