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n3vd0g t1_jch17z5 wrote

Reply to comment by the_lamou in Nearly 1,500 buildings ban Airbnb and other short-term rentals by fluffykintail

> Because no matter how good it may feel, hysterics on Reddit don't actually stove anything.

Lol hysterics? So rude jfc

> Housing prices are rising sharply everywhere because we literally cannot keep up with demand. What do you want the government to do about that? Forcibly seize land and force people to build houses on it? Or would you rather we sterilize half the population to prevent demand growth? Home prices generally go up over time, if for no other reason than inflation goes up over time, and there's absolutely no way to stop that short of extremely unpleasant solutions.

First off, you're gonna claim hysterics while putting that genocide straw man on me? ok. Second, yeah, I have no problem with seizing land that people are just sitting on. It's called eminent domain and I support it when necessary. inb4 "it's been abused in the past"

> Plus, your plan requires us to forcibly kick people out of their family homes to make room for other people, which is a truly shitty thing to do.

When did I ever say I'm kicking families out. Since when is a giant landlord that owns multiple buildings in nyc a "single family"? Again, straw man. It's naive to think this doesn't happen already anyways. It happens by landlords on a scale that is plainly ridiculous. And many times, the landlords don't even do substantional renovations or add units. They paint over shit, fix a few cabinets, add some appliances and hike the rent up by another grand a month.

> Yeah. About two trillion dollars direct by the federal government. What I don't understand is how you think federal spending has any bearing on state and city spending.

You do realize that part of a state's budget comes directly from federal allocations too, correct? You know how government works right? Like, not all infrastructure spending in a state is solely financed by that state.

I mean, whatever man. It's not like either of us will get our way anyways

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n3vd0g t1_jcgm66t wrote

Reply to comment by the_lamou in Nearly 1,500 buildings ban Airbnb and other short-term rentals by fluffykintail

> It's about half of all subsidized units, and has been in major drawdown mode for a while, shifting more units from government-owned to private-owned-but-regulated.

If this is true, then it doesn't seem to be doing them any favors. Housing prices are rising sharply as a result. https://www.globalpropertyguide.com/Europe/Austria/Price-History

> NYC is not only incredibly densely populated (about 3x Vienna) but that population density extends out throughout the immediate metro area. For NYC to replicate it would require either deploying large swaths of small homes in the outer borroughs and converting them to midrises (which will cost billions upon billions of dollars and piss off a ton of long-time New Yorkers,)

So just do nothing then? That's your solution? Our country is in crisis and all we seem to do is virtue signal about homelessness while only actually caring about landowners. Do you know how much we spent on the Iraq war alone? Billions upon billions is quite literally nothing to the American government and that money would be cycled into people's pockets as people would be employed during this process to build these things.

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n3vd0g t1_jcga0at wrote

Reply to comment by filenotfounderror in Nearly 1,500 buildings ban Airbnb and other short-term rentals by fluffykintail

  1. Vienna’s city government owns and manages 220,000 housing units, which represent about 25 percent of the city’s housing stock. https://www.huduser.gov/portal/pdredge/pdr_edge_featd_article_011314.html Not suggesting all, but would like a substantial amount.

  2. Excuses. No reason we can’t work for a better government

  3. Yeah in that it regulates stock to maintain affordability and availability and allows for government ownership of dignified low income housing

  4. You really think the current rental prices aren’t already theft from one generation to another? Regardless, this is what social security is supposed to be for. We shouldn’t be encouraging owning rental properties as a means to retirement. Retirement should be a guaranteed right, but not like this. Regardless, this is unsustainable and I’m not going to cry over lost profits since society would still be for the better. Like come on man

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n3vd0g t1_jcg9358 wrote

Reply to comment by the_lamou in Nearly 1,500 buildings ban Airbnb and other short-term rentals by fluffykintail

> Vienna’s city government owns and manages 220,000 housing units, which represent about 25 percent of the city’s housing stock. https://www.huduser.gov/portal/pdredge/pdr_edge_featd_article_011314.html

Yet still a substantial amount is owned by the government and the program is wildly successful. It is very very different.

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n3vd0g t1_jcfkhbc wrote

Reply to comment by the_lamou in Nearly 1,500 buildings ban Airbnb and other short-term rentals by fluffykintail

Government.

Edit: for the people who truly believe that current state of the rental market isn’t already the dystopian hellscape they believe gov owned housing would be https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d6DBKoWbtjE Edit: Also, Adam Smith has some great words on the subject https://www.reddit.com/r/adamsmith/comments/zche7/ysk_adam_smith_spoke_of_landlords_as_cruel/

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n3vd0g t1_j9umyy5 wrote

Reply to comment by numba1cyberwarrior in Jewish communities brace as white supremacists plan Feb. 25 ‘Day of Hate’ by Souperplex

> People get mad when you tell them their nation doesn't have the right to exist. More so when that nation not existing means most of their family members will be exterminated or ethnically clensed.

I've literally never said that.

> Weird my entire family spent more then a century being oppressed by leftists.

Well, I guess that means it's Israel's turn to oppress others then! :)

Regardless, there's clearly no discussion to be had here with you and you would rather discuss how bad leftism is in a thread about right wing fascists planning a protest against Jewish people. Gee, I wonder why that may be...

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n3vd0g t1_j9ukkyi wrote

Reply to comment by numba1cyberwarrior in Jewish communities brace as white supremacists plan Feb. 25 ‘Day of Hate’ by Souperplex

Your point is missing much needed nuance. Israel today is no doubt an apartheid state and is moving further to the right. It's only going to get worse. And yes, some of its enemies just hate jewish people in general. However, imo, plenty more simply hate the actions taken by the Israeli government and hate the fact that our country financially supports all of it. Only dumbasses believe there is some sort of ethnic cabal of Jewish people running the media. However, there is also a substantially large lobby group named AIPAC that pays our politicians and influences media groups to use soft language when discussing Israel state crimes. Obviously, this subject is complicated enough that AIPAC can use antisemitism as a shield when it's subject to complaints about its treatment of second class citizens in Israel. But anyone who is using blanket statements like "Why are the Jews controlling our government and media" is obviously an antisemitic racist and they're not worth being around. Last thing, even when I've been plenty sensitive to the subject while discussing my issues on Israel with Israeli citizens, every single one of them has blown up in my face about it. I'm sure plenty of them have labeled me antisemitic as a result, but that's a ridiculous notion. If any left-winger is hating you for simply being Jewish, or hell, even Israeli, they're not a leftist imo and they should be told as such.

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n3vd0g t1_j9tzvnb wrote

Reply to comment by numba1cyberwarrior in Jewish communities brace as white supremacists plan Feb. 25 ‘Day of Hate’ by Souperplex

Yeah, pretty much every country has. Regardless, you’re running defense for Nazis by “both sides-ing” this argument, even if that’s not your intention because the core tenet of Nazism is antisemitism. That was not the core tenet of the USSR and it’s extremely important that we get our facts straight when discussing this topic because no one’s hands are clean and the only way we’ll stop the spread ia if we examine everyone equally.

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n3vd0g t1_j9txox0 wrote

Reply to comment by numba1cyberwarrior in Jewish communities brace as white supremacists plan Feb. 25 ‘Day of Hate’ by Souperplex

But it’s not a tenet of even the furthest point of leftism. At first, one of the most important outcomes of the February revolution led by Lenin was the abolishment of antisemitic policies within the government. But, the Soviet Union was not a perfect communist regime and was ruled by a dictator, Stalin, who after WW2 became even more paranoid and deranged. As a result, many policies were created to target minority groups. Regardless, you could say the same about the policies of the American government that targeted black people, Hispanic people, poor people, leftists, and even at one point Jews. I mean, at least the USSR wasn’t founded With antisemitism in mind, unlike the Nazis. However, America was built by white slave owners who wanted to avoid paying taxes who also committed genocide against the indigenous people of America in order to take their land. Like come on, if we’re gonna start pointing fingers, I don’t think we as a country have much a right to.

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n3vd0g t1_j1sghk0 wrote

Reply to comment by SigmaWhy in NYC's AI bias law is delayed until April 2023, but when it comes into effect, NYC will be the first jurisdiction mandating an AI bias order in the world, revolutionizing the use of AI tools in recruiting by Background-Net-4715

No one said unique to America, just that this specific situation is very American; something we’ve dealt with forever. It’s an inb4 libertarians have entered the chat comment

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