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AREssshhhk t1_ix7wbqs wrote

The greatest consumer product of all time will always be the smartphone. It’s a product you pay to own, and then pay a monthly fee to use. You use it to buy other products, and have to get a new one every 2-4 years

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OogieBoogiez t1_ix7xmhe wrote

I’m sure these robots will come with a subscription.

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Pochusaurus t1_ix7z5hx wrote

not when they are gathering and selling your info to major companies!

Client: Hey CleanTron, what should our meal plan be for the week?

CleanTron: It would appears that your uric acid levels are a bit high as well as your overall weight, we should adjust your pantry for leafy greens from Uncle Tim's Fresh Produce and then on the weekends we can have a cheat day with Prime Vegan Steaks from Tio's Prime Vegan Meatshop. I highly suggest using this weekly recipe meal plan from Quick and EZ Home-Cooked recipes for your CleanTron.com

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Good-Advantage-9687 t1_ix88rg0 wrote

Your cleantron sucks but with an antique vacuum cleaner soccubots on the other hand will suck you D properly and personally assist you with your weight management issues via regularly schedule cardiovascular workout routine (as well as on demand sessions when you can "spare the time"). Succbot satisfaction guarantee.👍

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CountOmar t1_ix7xt1w wrote

Yeah. They'll require updates for generations.

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Mapafius t1_ix8kuyu wrote

Perhaps you would subscribe to renting them and pay monthly. Many people would not have money to buy them, but renting would be possibility. After few years they would just replace your robot with new model. Also if your personal robot is at home doing something and you need some other robot to do something at some other place you are now at, you could do occasional payment and rent roaming robot doing that singular task for you, kind of similar to how Uber works. For sure you could get another subscription plan in which you could use nearby roaming robots any time. You could combine those subscription plans to have few robots rented exclusively for your personal use and yet also be free to use those roaming robots. Also other companies would buy or rent robots from the robot companies.

Also since people are used to rate their experience with online products and well as services like Uber, rating of robots would come probably as well. This could further make way for distopian rating apps like seen in the black mirror episode Nosedive.

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Whole-Impression-709 t1_ix9mtxo wrote

Yeah, Roombas skeeve me out because they're mapping and cataloging the insides of our homes. This particular gem will have cameras, microphones, speakers, and bipedal locomotion.

I sure hope there's an offline version

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Mapafius t1_ixa185c wrote

Before those robots come there would be AR smart contact lenses and other wereable accessories, that would replace phones and would infiltrate into our privacy way more then phones ever did monitoring your activities and surroundings through wereable cameras, microphones and other sensors. (Google mojo lens) Also smart home devices would become more widespread and integrated thing before those robots come. Both of those technologies are less difficult and would be more affordable then robots so robots would come later. Concerning privacy the former technologies would already invade to it strongly. Humanoid robots would not add much at that point.

Next big thing after that causing danger to privacy in new level would be nanobots. This is very sci-fi now but there exists theoretical concepts like smartdust, neural dust, claytronics and utility fog and some companies try to work on some very early things. Basically imagine everpresent colony of nanobots penetrating every corner of world and especially biosphere and technology, they could manipulate other matter on molecular level or form new solid structures out of themself as if suddenly the air around you (full of nanobot dust) solidify to something. They could also move things around. Most importantly those nanobots would live inside living organisms. Medical nanobots would help with monitoring health as well as with healing and treatment. Some nanobots would be meant to help with neural medical conditions. Theoretically nanobots would be able to communicate directly with brain, with one another as well as with other electronical devices or nanobots in brains of other people. This means you could control electronical devices by thoughts, use nanobots abilities by thought and recieve information directly as stimulus to your neurons. Now how this is concern for privacy is clear. Also hacking some nanobots or some nanobots getting bug could get really messy for organism.

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RSomnambulist t1_ix8dxje wrote

You don't have to get a new one every 2-4 years. I usually keep mine for 6-8 and they've all been fine at that 6 year mark except my droid turbo that had a terrible battery.

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AREssshhhk t1_ix8fhan wrote

I don’t think I’ve ever kept a phone more than 2 years. When I’m up for an upgrade, I just go to the store and get the cheapest new iPhone for free. All I have to pay is tax/fee and I get a case and screen protector. Last time I was out of pocket less than $150 for a brand new iphone

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RSomnambulist t1_ix8iapv wrote

That's fair, you're being charged to stick with a higher cost (but slightly more reliable) carrier in that case. I use a Verizon network, but third party, and pay $10 a month for 1 gig of data. They do not do replacement phones, only signup phones, but I'm guessing I pay about $50 less per month than you would for my 1 gig. That works out to $1200 difference for 2 years.

Edit: My plan also requires you have Comcast internet. So, that has to also be taken into consideration, but Comcast is the only good option where I live.

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AREssshhhk t1_ix8ihdi wrote

Yah I can’t do that I pay $54 a month for unlimited data but I use about 100G a month

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thehourglasses t1_ixa9cc7 wrote

Ah yes the classic “what’s true for me is true for everyone else” reasoning. 🤦🏻‍♂️

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Oafkelp t1_ixadurp wrote

people need to return back to the days of nokias. buy one, lasts 30+ years. FFS, no one needs touchscreens on smartphone, the screen is too tiny anyway!!!! a phone is there to make phone calls and smses. THAT'S ALL. Use a frickin' tablet pc if you want to browse stuff. SAVE THE PLANET. Stop buying multiple editions of things which are DESIGNED to fail within 2 years!!!!

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thehourglasses t1_ixahdly wrote

But what about the marginally better pictures I can take???

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Oafkelp t1_ixai34y wrote

i think old nokias can have cameras in them. the real focus is just on making tech last and be repairable. We really need to stop replicating redundant tech without meaningful marginal functional gain. If a tablet can do the task, then skip the function in the phone. And stop using MS and Apple. Just chocked with useless shit.

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AREssshhhk t1_ixaq2sw wrote

Fuck the planet, I eat meat 5 times a day, drive everywhere, get a new phone every two years, and make a mountain of garbage every day

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FloopsFooglies t1_ixf5xzq wrote

Yeah, and let's go back to using horse drawn carriages too! And messenger pigeons!

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cybercuzco t1_ix81c9e wrote

I’ve never paid for a smartphone. I just get peoples old phones when they upgrade. Currently rocking a pink iPhone 7. (I’m a dude)

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AREssshhhk t1_ix81jux wrote

Yes I like to get mine for free with an upgrade as well but that’s not the point

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woobloob t1_ix8697q wrote

A bit too early to say. Personally I tend to buy smartphones second hand and I don't pay a monthly fee to use it. I'm from Sweden so there are way better deals than there is in America but I pay $20 for about 20 GB of internet which I can use for 6 months. For like $35 you can get 100 GB instead. This also lets me call a bit but I don't use that anyway, still it's good for emergencies. I realize this is just me but I kind of wish that this approach was more common.

Of course I agree with you that so far it seems that you are correct but I do think there is a bit more potential in software. The phones are a means to get you inside the ecosystem but I think that it's all the digital services and software where IT-companies like Apple see incredible potential. Once you have a phone, then you usually start to lose interest in other phones for a while, but being the owner of a digital marketplace where everyone pays you 30% like the app store is crazy. Especially because there are ways to make people spend money on an app store every single day. This is what companies like Meta wants and sooner or later depending on societies' laws they will get it.

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AREssshhhk t1_ix86t6y wrote

Here in America I get a free new iPhone every two years. I pay $60 a month for unlimited internet/call/texts, and I use about 100G of data a month

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woobloob t1_ix8wqzl wrote

Do you actually get the latest most expensive iPhone at that price? What's the value of the phone if I may ask? It sounds like a somewhat okay deal. Although I'm not that keen on having to pay $1440 over two years since I at the moment spend something like $100-200 over two years, but for someone who wants the latest iPhone it wouldn't be too bad at that price.

Unlimited internet/calls/texts is something we have over here too for $30 but it doesn't include the phone. I think that's also a bit of a scam though unless you don't have internet at home.

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AREssshhhk t1_ixapav1 wrote

No when I’m up for an upgrade, I get the cheapest new iPhone for free. This year I got the se 3, and I only had to pay fee/tax, and I bought a case and screen protector. So it cost me less than $150 total. I have an unlimited data plan for me and my wife so it costs $108 a month which is $54 per person

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woobloob t1_ixc26kf wrote

Thanks for replying!

Yeah those prices are similar to what I’ve read about before. You and your wife are spending almost $3000 every 2 years just on phones which is a bit much but unlimited data does soften the blow.

Well, the comforting news is that as far as I know most other consumer products are cheaper in America than in Northern Europe and many other places. But the “required” bills like rent, phones and internet are in need of some kind of regulation I’d say.

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AREssshhhk t1_ixcfvoa wrote

Oh yah, it costs over $1000 a month to rent a bedroom near me. Decent internet costs me $110 a month, and another $108 for unlimited data phone plan, but I need the unlimited plan cuz I usually use 100G of data a month

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DentedAnvil t1_ix7xrvv wrote

Do you think that they won't us a subscription based plan for advanced AI? Everything else (including farm implements) is going that way.

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Mapafius t1_ix8mq8b wrote

You could subscribe for personal robot serving you only but you could also subscribe for being able to use any nearby roaming robot of that company. Or you could combine those subscription plans. You could also rent a roaming robot for singular task, kind of like how uber works.

Now there is a question. Would it rather be that some other companies would develop special software for special tasks and provide it to the robot building and renting companies or would it be other way around that certain robot developing and renting companies would rent robots to the companies specializing in providing special services with special software so they would act like middle man between the end customer and the original robot renting company.

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AnnieTheDog t1_ix94c4t wrote

Don't forget all the data being mined about you.

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RavenWolf1 t1_ix86p5x wrote

Yeah. Even dirt poor people who live in slums has smartphones. I doubt they will have robots...

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