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Ahiru77 t1_j1fp6ma wrote

I'm glad Megan is finally vindicated in all of this. She powered through this like a champ.

And rappers who actively sided with Tory just cause they like him need to seriously rethink their values/principles in life.

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infodawg t1_j1fpb8e wrote

Not sure what led to the shooting but just gonna say, it's nice when artists can feel safe in public....

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Si8u t1_j1gensf wrote

"This bitch lie ’bout getting shots, but she still a stallion,” - Drake is a clown

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hldsnfrgr t1_j1gf2p3 wrote

I didn't know she was shot. Did it happen pre-WAP or post-WAP?

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dj_chai_wallah t1_j1gsyj1 wrote

Both guilty of making terrible music however

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earhere t1_j1gvarn wrote

watching hasan debate dj akademics and fresh and fit guys was the best part of this whole debacle

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connaire t1_j1gxeay wrote

Replying to Boofer2 (#1,034,923)

> She was taken by ambulance to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, where doctors found bullet fragments in her foot, which required surgery to remove.

Ya na he shot her.

Edit: you’re a clown adding the /s after getting fact checked. Your stupid ass statement isn’t even sarcasm.

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SrRoundedbyFools t1_j1gy085 wrote

So this clown gets caught with a gun he shouldn’t have in the US in 2017 and gets to keep his visa? Why wasn’t he deported back to Canada then.

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Obnoxiousdonkey t1_j1gyw99 wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,032,560)

It's not the prison system, which yes, could use work. But your complaint should be with the support system before it goes as far as someone shooting another person. Prison is after the fact. All you're saying is you want him to get off scot free and get help instead. Yes he should get help. But that should come before it gets to a shooting

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chojinra t1_j1gzr8f wrote

Does anyone know the actual facts on the case? Not I heard, or I read, but the official versions from those involved and witnesses?

I am honestly asking as I didn’t care enough about this story to keep up with it, but I’m hearing conflicting things.

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kazooooomka t1_j1h31jh wrote

Turns out Torry Lanez is a Nicki fan ☺️

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rcnfitz t1_j1hf57a wrote

Are you fucking kidding me??? This is what the NY Times allows to print? You pair Johnny Depp and Harvey Weinstien in the same comparison... you had ought to be damned ashamed of yourselves... smarten the hell up!!!

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connaire t1_j1hgp69 wrote

Replying to McDonalds_Toothpaste (#1,036,846)

Their joke was a statement when I made the reply. Obscuring actual facts of the case. The dude shot her, that’s the fact of the matter. Shooting at her feet doesn’t make a difference, she got fragments in her feet. She got shot.

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Canbvoy t1_j1hhno6 wrote

A nobody shot a nobody. Wow, who’d have guessed?

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Snoo_24930 t1_j1hily0 wrote

Wait was this the incident from 2 years ago?

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Kootsiak t1_j1hj7ud wrote

Replying to BenUFOs_Mum (#1,036,888)

i never did like him and his lazy voice style of singing is so fucking annoying to listen.

If you are a Drake fan, go listen to people with actual good voices who can put all the emotion into their performance. You will realize there are actual artists out there who do mind blowing stuff and y'all just listen to basic ass Drake.

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sly_savhoot t1_j1hk9yf wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,035,705)

Best girl friends always get into gun scuffles after drinking all night with someone else gun. Sure , that’s a theory. A bad one. I’d say with the video he’s pretty guilty. Megan didnt bring this case the DA did and she testified. As she said this did nothing good for her so why would she do it? Motive alone leaves a lot for the defense to prove.

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drgonnzo t1_j1hki4d wrote

Replying to connaire (#1,035,514)

When I first went to US for work experience 20 years ago my English was very bad. And one day my manager is telling me that his grandma got shot. I was horrified but he seemed not as freaked out. Only later I understood shot doesn’t mean shot dead. But to this day when I hear shot I think the person is dead.

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AnniaT t1_j1hleys wrote

Everyone lied on the stand but even with the reasonable doubt and omissions and lies by Kelsey, Tory and even Megan, there's still no doubt that Megan was shot by Tory and was a victim so I'm glad with this verdict.

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justcreepingaround t1_j1hm952 wrote

For those not familiar with the case, the felony charges were assault with a semiautomatic firearm, carrying a loaded unregistered firearm in a vehicle, and discharge of a firearm with gross negligence, according to prosecutors.

Tory Lanez was on Felony probation already from a prior incident. The jury was presented with 47 evidence items that confirmed above.

Sentencing will happen in January 2023 and he faces up to 23 years in prison and deportation.

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buttsfartly t1_j1hmygv wrote

Curious how much they pay people to be victims? I have no doubt there are ample amounts of people desperate enough to want to be on either side of that transaction… cash for the victim, fame for the guy I never heard of.

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SideStreetSister t1_j1hn7g3 wrote

Can somebody tell me why all these names have negative points but no comments behind them? Were they deleted by the mods?

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Strength-Speed t1_j1hujo8 wrote

Replying to Kootsiak (#1,037,144)

For real, I can identify a Drake song by asking myself "Do I feel annoyed?", and if I am it is usually Drake. I usually get most musical tastes, I don't get Drake. Sure some songs are ok, but so many are just incredibly annoying.

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Kslooot t1_j1hv0gu wrote

Replying to chojinra (#1,035,731)

There was eye witness testimony stating that they saw him shoot the gun multiple times when he claimed only Kelsey shot the gun. Don’t really need to know much else, he wasn’t charged with battery.

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ItsNotABimma t1_j1hydi9 wrote

Replying to Kootsiak (#1,037,144)

Just gonna put it out there, but when he was getting radio play between 08-10 I honestly thought he was biting hard off of Lil Wayne’s flow and trying his hardest to imitate it.

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griffenkranz t1_j1i0px8 wrote

Remember when Drake wrote that lyric about this for attention then was, as expected, wrong?

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Callan126 t1_j1i0zky wrote

That’s what happens when you chill with ratchet. You get ratchet shit happening to you. They both need to evaluate their life decisions.

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chojinra t1_j1i2m1o wrote

Replying to griffenkranz (#1,039,381)

It’s more asking people who might have followed the case what are the actual particulars of it, and maybe sources of that info I can check out. I did google it for a bit, but the news feeds weren’t that helpful.

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lord_pizzabird t1_j1i3nub wrote

Replying to Ahiru77 (#1,030,891)

I just wish she had the sense in the first place to call the police, it would have helped her a lot on that front.

Her explanation about fearing how a black person would be treated by police (after shooting someone in the foot) was idiotic at best.

I believe she believed it, but it's a perfect example of how victimizers get away with victimizing others and how it spreads through society.

EDIT: The people downvoting this are racist, whether they realize it or not. Treat all races the same. If you see someone shoot another person or you are yourself shot: Call the fucking police and get help.

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0ogaBooga t1_j1i4qrv wrote

Replying to LastWave (#1,037,936)

Love the downvotes you got. Dude makes blanket generalization about rap (and black people by extension) and people are all on the same page, you make the EXACT SAME POINT about country music and somehow that's no longer right.

Fucking hypocrisy.

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pterofactyl t1_j1i7mr4 wrote

Replying to lord_pizzabird (#1,039,613)

Why was it idiotic? It’s true, she knows that if you report a black person has a gun and shot a person, that situation is likely to go downhill very fast. Diminishing her reasoning like that is ignorant of the weight that calling the police has

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TwisterUprocker t1_j1iae81 wrote

Bet that "she was an elf in disguise defense" worked great in court.

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emmaleechase t1_j1icy1r wrote

Glad to see they got a conviction. What an a$$.

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lord_pizzabird t1_j1id0yb wrote

Replying to pterofactyl (#1,040,062)

The situation already went downhill. You had a man with a gun, shooting at a woman while yelling "dance".

If the police weren't so afraid to react to people like this, then maybe he wouldn't have felt so emboldened to do what he did.

He literally 'knew' he would get away with it. That's actual privilege. And if it weren't for prosecutors (who weren't afraid of him) he would have gotten away with it.

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lord_pizzabird t1_j1id99s wrote

Replying to pterofactyl (#1,040,062)

The problem was that in this situation the person had a gun and shot someone already. Regardless of his race the situation was already downhill.

Imagine if he went on to shoot someone else in an erratic fit and she didn't call the police.

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pterofactyl t1_j1iekmv wrote

Replying to lord_pizzabird (#1,040,739)

Yes, but do you understand how the possibility of this man being shot unlawfully would cause hesitation? Open your eyes and understand that for many people it’s not as simple as “see crime, call to get man arrested”. She had to fully consider if she wanted this guy to be shot for this

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[deleted] t1_j1igq42 wrote

Replying to Kootsiak (#1,037,144)

Way back when I was in high school I listened to the Take Care album on repeat. Then I outgrew it and haven't listened to much of his stuff since. The only thing I really listen to that has him is Going Bad but I love the way it sounds in my car. I can't name one solo Drake song that's come out since ... Hold on We're Going Home?

There's definitely way better artists out there but everyone has their own style. Some people like his lazy style. My music tastes are all over the place so I really enjoy some creativity in my music.

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gradease t1_j1ik040 wrote

Replying to Fishtaco1234 (#1,039,763)

Oh hell yeah, they changed their name to Idle Sons at some point. I saw them open for Finger Eleven in the early 2000's, great energy. I think they only released one album under that name, but I remember it being solid as well.

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aangnesiac t1_j1ipr3c wrote

Replying to lord_pizzabird (#1,039,613)

>EDIT: The people downvoting this are racist, whether they realize it or not. Treat all races the same. If you see someone shoot another person or you are yourself shot: Call the fucking police and get help.

This is ridiculous. First, you're making a pretty big assumption about why you're getting down voted. But more importantly, you are effectively suggesting that it is racist when race influences a decision or action. That can only be true in an egalitarian society. Otherwise, you are effectively saying "pretend the problem doesn't exist and it will go away". Which is absurd. Race matters in our country.

Black people have a valid reason to not want to involve the police. You seem to be under the impression that someone must be delusional to feel that way. I'm certain if you earnestly and honestly tried to understand why this mistrust exists then you would realize how ridiculous your comment is. Instead, you seem to be approaching it from the assumption that it has to be unreasonable and trying to prove yourself right.

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Kootsiak t1_j1irzve wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,041,168)

That's fair. I don't mean to say there is nothing to his music or that it's wrong just to like the way music sounds to you. I try not to have any judgment for most genres and people liking what sounds like bad music to me, but I do get upset when people make mediocre artists into international, super rich celebrities. But many times that's just me being extra grumpy that day.

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Jobra819 t1_j1iswas wrote

Lol this dude chose a pornstars name as a stage name. Not hard to believe he makes bad decisions in life.

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[deleted] t1_j1iu51l wrote

Replying to Kootsiak (#1,042,298)

No, your words have merit. The most obscene and talentless individuals are often brought to the limelight. The Kardashians, although an easy one, are an example.

In my own opinion there's a big difference between a full band writing their own music, lyrics, and actually playing to be proficient versus someone such as Beyonce in 'Run the World (Girls)' who did absolutely nothing but sing what others wrote for her to a music track someone else made for her as well. That's why I usually opt for some lesser known indie bands and smaller metal bands. I remember listening to Wage War and Villain of the Story open for other artists before they were able to stand on their own. But I digress because I could discuss music all day! Lol

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Grinols t1_j1jxgc8 wrote

Don't forget after Dax dissed Tory Lanez last year or 2? That he found him in public, chased him down in a car of goons, held him at gun point, and made him apologize on camera.

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lord_pizzabird t1_j1kg2jf wrote

Replying to aangnesiac (#1,042,080)

>But more importantly, you are effectively suggesting that it is racist when race influences a decision or action.

No, I'm saying that having different rules for different races is racist, because it simply is.

I understand that you mean well and that she probably did to, but the issue is the damage that you're doing to society by further spreading victimization and by giving others a pass to do so.

This wasn't a case where a person said something mean to another person, or littered, or tresspassed even. This was a grown ass man who shot a woman in the foot while yelling, "dance".

You guys are absolutely being racist when you decide that there should be two different sets of rules and regulations for different races. If it were flipped around, you'd be pissed.

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lord_pizzabird t1_j1kh4nx wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,042,113)

>Would you feel guilty if the cops came and killed someone you suspected was stealing your bicycle? I

He didn't steal a bicycle. He shot her intentionally.

You're trying to conflate to completely different situations, one where it's more understandable and another where it was absolutely ridiculous given the seriousness of the crime.

>In our world the victim/suspect’s race plays a part in thinking about calling the cops. Until the cops and justice system are trustworthy to minorities they will always hesitate to call

The point I was making above is that this mindset doesn't address or help the problem, but spreads the victimization and

Again, I fully understand and believe that you guys have the best of intentions with this and I totally understand where you're coming from, but it's just not helpful and it's really a lot of what's wrong with our legal system.

Fixing this requires people at an individual level doing what they're supposed to do, from people who witness a violent crime to the officers that respond.

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Optimal_Locke t1_j1khdok wrote

Replying to lord_pizzabird (#1,048,018)

Who is said pass? No one. Literally NO ONE is advocating to give him a pass. We're simply trying to get you to understand where Megan's head was when she didn't want to call the cops. Personally, I wouldn't call the cops unless they were literally the last resort. Cops in America are thugs and I wouldn't trust them to change a light bulb. They'd probably end up shooting someone's kid...

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lord_pizzabird t1_j1kho48 wrote

Replying to Ecdamon86 (#1,040,100)

Atleast that's something we can all agree on.

Not calling the police was wrong, but the core issue is that she felt she couldn't call the police.

Hopefully everyone learned a lesson from this: Tory Lanes to stop fucking shooting people and Megan to have more faith in the system.

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aangnesiac t1_j1kmykb wrote

Replying to lord_pizzabird (#1,048,004)

>No, I'm saying that having different rules for different races is racist, because it simply is

And I'm saying that there aren't separate rules but that the rules are more complicated than "if X race, then Y race". It's the same reason that you can't ignore advanced math simply because it's too complicated. History and context must be considered when making "rules". To assert otherwise is in conflict with proper logic.

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lord_pizzabird t1_j1kvez5 wrote

Replying to aangnesiac (#1,048,848)

There are separate rules, but the suggestion is that there should be.

As you said, history and context matter. Historically speaking, having different rules for different races is how our legal system became what it is today. You're making the same mistake, just going the other direction.

Creating legal priviledge defined by race; That's what you're unintentionally advocating for.

Or what I suspect: You and the rest do.

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dannybrickwell t1_j1ld925 wrote

Replying to Canbvoy (#1,037,026)

Both of these people FAR from nobodies - both very successful and very public figures. I would consider both of them artists, and I truly wonder if "I haven't heard of them, so they must not be artists" is actually the stance you're taking here

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MaesterPraetor t1_j1m1lbv wrote

Replying to Canbvoy (#1,051,736)

Get over yourself with this sanctimonious nonsense. You literally said it wasn't art and they are nobodies.

Here's your logic:

I don't like the Beatles.

Therefore, the Beatles are nobodies, and their music is not art.

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Canbvoy t1_j1p8uhd wrote

Replying to MaesterPraetor (#1,054,777)

Get a life and stop your opinionated BS. You’re obviously living in a world of your own if you can’t see the difference between my posts and your twisted interpretation. Fine, whatever, your opinion means nothing. Bye xxx

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