Wouldn't there be a special election like other states or does PA have a strange constitutional state law that the gov picks?

As far as I know, the Governor appoints someone, but I think the appointment only lasts until the next congressional election. So, less than 2 years. Rod Blagoyevich (sp) of Illinois got in trouble because he wanted favors or money when he had the chance to appoint someone to fill Obama’s senate seat when Obama was elected president. And

Conor Lamb.

Interesting...I had no idea.

Such things have happened, like wives getting appointed to replace their husbands, but . . . they probably shouldn't? Gisele rules, but the whole idea seems like something that shouldn't happen.

Gisele Fetterman is amazing but she would also never want that job.

I would vote for her

why giselle?

Giselle has three kids and a husband recovering from a stroke… yeah I don’t think that’s a wise pick.

Why? Because she's a woman born in Brazil? You think his degrees and experience are community property?

No I don’t think his degrees are community property. She also has community development experience focusing on nutrition. In fact that is how they met. And after he suffered the stroke, I think she supported him personally and professionally and I would even venture to say she may have made a difference in the number of votes he got. Although the Republicans’ unserious nominee also probably helped Fetterman’s vote count.

That’s a good point. Especially if he would have to resign, that might mean he needed attention and she might not have the bandwidth.

Anyone who's healthy and capable....Certainly not Giselle.

As a parent of three kids I couldn’t imagine the pressure she is feeling while her partner is recovering. Personally, I think he needs 6 months of solid rehab at home and reassess his ability. At that point, let him make the decision. If he can’t handle the position than Shapiro needs to make a strategic decision.

You are right. It wouldn’t be the right time for her. I think she could have s successful career in politics once her husband is stable. But she would have to start small, like he did.

Don’t talk about this sort of crap. The guy isn’t dying. Aren’t there more important things to talk about? Get a life….

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You guys are so obsessed with the idea of him not coming back. It’s been a week… He’s not going to be hospitalized forever. I’m just sick of this being made into some type of spectacle. I feel like it’s only because it’s a mental health issue too. If it were some other type of illness, a lot of people wouldn’t be making such a big deal out of this.

Conor Lamb, Ashley Ehasz, or Patrick Murphy.

I would think she would be considered along w Conor lamb and Malcom Kenyatta but I think the easy way out would be Tom Wolff and probably what he’d do. BUT. Like many here, I am pulling that Sen Fetterman bounces back.

Would either be Tom Wolf or Conor Lamb.

It’s really not that. I have just been so impressed with her on the campaign trail. I get these little quirks. I wanted H Clinton to win the primary and the general in 2008 just so we would have Bush 41, Clinton 42, Bush 43;, Clinton 44. And school kids would have to learn who each of the 4 was and their connections

Yeah she has said several times she does not want to work in politics.

I'm desperately trying to figure out what you're saying.

good luck

I’m not necessarily disagreeing with you, but could you please explain to me why you think she could have a successful political future?

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We have 106 year old fucking zombies in Congress who are wheeled in to vote then put back in their crypt Till the next one. Now as soon as Fetterman has the first issue we suddenly have to put him out to pasture…

No offense but this kind of idolization is just unhealthy

I mean, look at who we have in politics these days. It's as if the fools will elect anyone, regardless of how qualified they are for the job.

I’m not a fan of the wives serving out their husbands terms in office. Pick someone who will want to run again and stay in office.

As a Fetterman voter and a long-time depression sufferer, the timing of him needing help is definitely curious. At the very least, it is a sign that not giving himself time to heal from the trauma of a stroke was probably not wise. I really wouldn't be surprised if politics on this level is not for him. He was being dragged for his stroke, and now he and his family are being dragged over his depression.

Democrats just need someone that will stick with the party line. They don't care who it is.

Oh. You mean this person will represent us and what our state wants? Ha! You still believe that shit?

People aren't hospitalized unless they are a danger to themselves or others. He is not dying of a terminal illness, but depression ends lives.

Yes, I agree 100%. Unfortunately, this is not unique to politics. It’s what happens when anything other than merit is considered when hiring someone… especially politicians.

None of you are paying attention. If he resigns, it goes to Joanna McClinton. She and the Governor are good friends and you lock in SEPA, the largest region in Pennsylvania. Only way she doesn’t get it is if Shapiro wants it. Then he’s picking a placeholder until the general election. Hell he may require the person to pledge not to run if he’s going to be a candidate.

Hopefully someone like State Senator Kenyatta, but realistically it would probably be someone like Conor Lamb if the state Democratic party elite has their say.

Its not even a little bit curious. It just shows you dont know anything about strokes. Its a common symptom of stroke survivors. Heres a link since you dont know.

https://www.stroke.org/en/about-stroke/effects-of-stroke/emotional-effects-of-stroke/depression-and-stroke

You are incorrect. People can be hospitalized if they admit themselves, the criteria of a danger to themselves or others is for involuntary commitment.

I just know if a working class person person admits themselves in my area, they will be released within days even with struggles relating to suicide. I was told on multiple occasions that I would be released within 72 hours when I considered admitting myself in the past. They also do not consider intense levels of depression or anxiety worthy of admission unless there are active suicidal thoughts and plans. I reported suicidal ideation many times, and they never considered me a danger or in need of more care. Obviously, a senator will probably receive better care than someone living in a low income area.

I guess one more commie couldn't make things much worse.

Definitely not Giselle. What qualifications does she have other than liberal dorks overhyping her? I voted for John his policies make him far and away the best person for the job. People like Giselle because she’s a supportive wife and mother. Not because she would make a great senator.

John isn’t going to resign either. He’s recovering from a stroke, not dying.

Does she have any background on the issues or experience in legislating or law? Her husband has an extensive background which makes him qualified but she would need more than just being married to him to get any support IMO.

So you voted for someone because it would create a sort of pattern? Do you think school kids would only learn about who each of the 4 were just because of said pattern? Not because they are um, US presidents?

On top of that, nearly every piece of coverage I've seen on the matter has praised Fetterman for seeking treatment. He's a sitting senator that acknowledges the importance of mental health instead of hand-waving it away.

Brain shit in general. Concussions will do this too. I had a really bad concussion a few years ago that required hospitalization including jumbled words, super weird. In a couple months I was holding a knife to my throat yelling at my partner "I'll fucking do it, just the jugular. Five seconds and it's over!" I was in a full psych program that night.

The sheer sense of doom and depression after any kind of brain trauma can be uncontrollable and overwhelming and completely out of character for the sufferer. I can't believe that people want someone in politics to not do something about that.

Thank you. This is the most accurate depiction regarding this situation that I've read on this sub.

On top of all that I can't imagine the pressure he is feeling. After his stroke everyone said oh he's fine he'll bounce back in no time. No need to focus on rehabilitation rather than a grueling campaign schedule. Now he's in the hospital for depression and everyone is saying oh he's fine he'll bounce back in no time. It is insanity and quite cruel. Let the man breathe and focus on his well being. Not on when he will be returning to Senate. Most importantly for the sake of his children.

You "think she supported him personally and professionally after his stroke"....ummm she's his wife of course she supported him? Maybe that support would have been more helpful had it been focused on his rehabilitation after his stroke.

So you think that she would make a great senator based on the following:

• she is a supportive wife
• she knows about nutrition
• people liked her thus she helped her husband get votes

Wow.

You are right. It is insane. Humanity has been lost in US politics, and if there was ever a neon billboard spelling it out, this is it.

The poor guy suffered a life-threatening and life changing health crisis. He had very little time to cope with the situation and process. He was very publicly mocked for his health situation, for needing accommodations, and for other things like he can not control like his looks. Now, his wife is being made out to be this heartless wench for helping their children cope. She has one loved one in crisis and is trying to protect the rest of the family.

Maybe he can continue his career with the right skills and support, but it shouldn't surprise anyone if he makes the decision to step away. I really hope he does. He and his family deserve peace.

Governor appoints for up to two years, special election required after that. Giselle is an unlikely candidate for appointment. Shapiro would likely appoint a moderate Democrat with good prospects for eventual election.

Imagine if my boss had my wife design structures for me while I'm in the hospital because she's genuinely a loving and caring and smart and funny person.

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I don’t want to minimize the severity of his problem or any mental health issues but It feels disrespectful to start talking about his replacement. He’s not the first senator to have a stroke or other issues and take time off.

I had a major injury and was offered an inpatient intensive mental health treatment program. It’s a little different than checking yourself in for suicidal thoughts. It’s not as common because it’s expensive and hard to get insurance to pay

I'm kinda sick in my stomach with the idea that his wife, who pushed him to run despite suffering from a stroke, would supplant him and take over the office despite not being elected.

He didn't have a background in legislating or law. He taught for a GED program. What was your point again? It's definitely not because she's a woman, right? That's not what you're implying, right? Because that is the only point you're making.

How do you know that she pushed him to run?

He has major coexisting medical problems that require their own medication. In all likelihood, they chose to do inpatient to monitor drug reactions either to antidepressants themselves or if they interact with something else he is taking.

A widow's succession would not be a good idea here. John Fetterman is almost certainly not leaving the Senate, but if he does it would likely be Conor Lamb to replace him, as that's who the Democratic establishment wanted in the first place.

If Shapiro wanted to be Senator, he would have run. He would have won whichever position in PA he wanted.

Definitely not a wise pick. The truth is we need someone that has the time to do the job. Our voices need to be heard.

One of these people spent over a decade as mayor and later lieutenant governor, the other was that persons spouse . If your heart surgeon breaks their hand you don’t get their spouse to do the job unless they are also a heart surgeon

LMAO

Degree in finance, an MBA and a Masters in Public Policy from Harvard and then followed by many years of practical legislative experience as mayor Braddock and Lt Gov of the Commonwealth of PA…..oh yeah and he taught that GED program among a whole lot of other practical business and community economic revitalization efforts. Still don’t understand why people like to ignore the guy’s background.

Wanted the Executive title…. It will help with a Presidential run

You are fucking delusional

Whether you agree or not, Gov. Wolf became the face of PA Covid. He burned too much capital and goodwill. Not a chance of him getting enough support. Many small democrat business owners hate him. Moderate Republicans and small business owners won’t vote for him. I figured he knew that, so that’s why he had Lt. Gov. Fetterman run.

I agree. This is ableism. People with depression are still capable of serving. No one said this when he had the stroke. Mental illness still has a stigma, unfortunately.

This garbage again? Is this question going to be a weekly thing? Learn to cope, trumpkins.

She's a great choice.

You're here today and you could be disabled or dead tomorrow when you pick someone for a position no one knows what's going to happen in the next 20 minutes Republicans replace all their dead people with more dead people so I have no issue here and I would like to see Josh Shapiro run as president one day

Agreed

You're essentially reducing these women to who they were married to, no matter their own achievements. I get you have good intentions but you really need to look at the responses and downvotes you're getting and re-evaluate how you approach these situations.

If there are any senior PA democrats paying attention, I suspect that they will say nothing at this time.

I don’t think you can say that I am reducing Clinton to who she was married to. She had achievements in her own right. She was a strong contender for the nomination in 2008, and went on to win the nomination in 2016.

Giselle Fetterman doesn’t have political experience, but from the time John Fetterman suffered the stroke, I believe she acted as his campaign manager and chief adviser. I know there was at least one time that they were walking together after an event and reporters were shouting questions. Since John Fetterman needs talk to text as an adaptation, he would not be able to answer when multiple questions are being shouted simultaneously. And it was her who said “we aren’t taking questions.” I guess she wouldn’t be the best pick at this time, but if she wanted to get into politics and she paid her dues by starting small, I think she could be successful.

Hmmmm. You may feel that way. Other people in the state may feel that way. Every watcher of Faux “News” feels that way. But facts don’t bear it out. He left office with strong approval ratings, was the first governor in PA in decades to see his successor win, and plus his mitigation methods flat out saved lives. And also with your logic, it was his freaking Lt Gov who was right there with him with everyone of those mitigation methods that ultimately won the seat!!!!!! And mind you, Fetterman was also to the left of Wolff.

I also think you fail to realize there is only person that needs to make the choice- that’s Josh Shapiro.

But then again, I believe a “senator” wolf would most likely win PA particularly if the election was in 24 and coincided with a Biden win and if we was already seated in the senate. Plus Casey will be running too.

But underestimate him. People did that his whole career, me included until later in his first term. I for one am very glad and proud he was our governor during 2020 and not a tyrant like Ron deathsantis whose policies led to more people dying.

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those guys sleep through most of it too

Major Young Grasshopper vibes. Best of luck to you.

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Keep fighting, friend ♥️

I’m a travel nurse all over the state. There are some areas that are extremely democratic. The rest.. it’s like going back in time.

Thankfully it’s the highly populated cities that are democratic- they helped swing us blue.

In general, I prefer democratic areas. They are more inclusive and I always have some great life experience in those places.

You are right. At the end of the day, he is human. All that matters is that he receives the care he needs and lives a life that makes him personally happy.

I think it is natural for people to wonder what comes next, however.

Ok, I kinda see what you're doing here with all your comments;)

No, not young grasshopper. But something a little more common among Reddit subs. Think small and hairy. Pretty clever.

Did you read the tweet? Who does that...

It seems a lot less important than the policy decision being made on a day to day basis by the government. This post just seems like wild speculation.

It is less important. An anonymous question and discussion on Reddit is also less important in the grand scheme of life.

Seek help

I suppose this was the plan all along. I guess we need to add cognitive testing to requirements for public office.

yes - they should all be put out to pasture. they are not competent. and yet people still vote for them. You get what you deserve.

Feinstein’s memory is “rapidly deteriorating.” The 88-year-old lawmaker has, at times, seemed to have difficulty recognizing longtime colleagues, recalling conversations and complicated policy, and “can no longer fulfill her job duties without her staff doing much of the work required to represent the nearly 40 million people of California,”

you make it seem as if mental health issues are his only issues

So bizarre

I didn't hear talk of him being replaced until he disclosed those issues.

Where are you guys getting this shit? Tucker Carlson?

Anyone who knows these two and her especially knows this.. did you know she left the country when he went into the hospital for treatment? She’s a handler.. and a royal bitch

You sound like a misogynistic shithead

Or someone who knows more than you do