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[deleted] t1_jdh2ujt wrote

Never heard somebody refer to a Coat of Arms as underrated lmfao

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Khearnei t1_jdh4xi5 wrote

Yeah nothing more badass than (squints through the JPEG) some bales of wheat and a plow.

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Mor_Tearach t1_jdh84a9 wrote

I'm not trying to be snarky ( honest ) but wouldn't we have to be familiar with the COA of other states to make the call ours is underrated ?

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FtheMustard t1_jdham6z wrote

Gotta get it off of the flag, though. To busy with all the small parts and all the different colors. Words don't belong on a flag. There are cool re-designed flags out there that are more simple and look dope.

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Quindigon t1_jdhfio6 wrote

Amazing for the Coat of Arms. Terrible for the flag.

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JeffHall28 t1_jdhfmfy wrote

The only part I don't necessarily like (aside from it being the sum total of our state flag) is the ship. I'm sure its suppose to be William Penn's ship but did I feel like there are more powerful symbols for his founding of the colony than his ride up the Delaware, right? I just think for a state with only 40 miles of lake front and 50 miles of river navigable by a ship like that, why are we leaning into this maritime motif? I say we replace the ship with some more significant, like a miner's pick, industrial hammer, pretzel, liberty bell, locomotive, whitetail deer, factory belching smoke, crucible in a steel mill, Quaker getting a Lenape man sign away his shit, literally anything. I would also contend that the center images should not be contained in a keystone made of riveted steel instead of some weird baroque whatever that is.

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SmasherOfAjumma t1_jdhgeo1 wrote

What’s with the ship though? Oh, Erie I guess. And the Delaware river maybe.

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vonHindenburg t1_jdhgsuq wrote

Replying to JeffHall28 (#2,334,105)

I think the ship has more to do with trade, as one of the sources of the state's wealth. Philly was one of the nation's major ports and centers of commerce when this seal was created and that ship would be crazy-anachronistic to represent William Penn's.

EDIT: From Wikipedia:

> The Pennsylvania coat of arms features a shield crested by a North American bald eagle, flanked by horses, and adorned with symbols of Pennsylvania's strengths—a ship carrying state commerce to all parts of the world; a clay-red plough, a symbol of Pennsylvania's rich natural resources; and three golden sheaves of wheat, representing fertile fields and Pennsylvania's wealth of human thought and action. An olive branch and cornstalk cross limbs beneath—symbols of peace and prosperity. The state motto, "Virtue, Liberty and Independence", appears festooned below. Atop the coat of arms is a bald eagle, representing Pennsylvania's loyalty to the United States.[2][3]

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vonHindenburg t1_jdhj5rc wrote

Replying to Logan_Holmes (#2,333,868)

I was curious, so I went through them. The lines are a bit blurry, but I count it as 27 flags which are entirely or substantially the state seal, 6 more which incorporate it or significant elements of it, and 17 others which are entirely different or only incorporate minor elements in a different way.

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qrpc t1_jdhuh5v wrote

It's not a bad coat of arms, but coats of arms in general shouldn't be on flags.

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glitch83 t1_jdhw8tl wrote

From Wikipedia:

>The Pennsylvania coat of arms features a shield crested by a North American bald eagle, flanked by horses, and adorned with symbols of Pennsylvania's strengths—a ship carrying state commerce to all parts of the world; a clay-red plough, a symbol of Pennsylvania's rich natural resources; and three golden sheaves of wheat, representing fertile fields and Pennsylvania's wealth of human thought and action. An olive branch and cornstalk cross limbs beneath—symbols of peace and prosperity. The state motto, "Virtue, Liberty and Independence", appears festooned below. Atop the coat of arms is a bald eagle, representing Pennsylvania's loyalty to the United States.

I was about to hate on the boat given that we have no coastline when the coat of arms was first proposed (Erie was annexed iirc) but the symbols are much more interesting when explained like I was five.

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axeville t1_jdi1c50 wrote

Replying to jshrdd_ (#2,336,573)

Washington DC did not exist yet but Mount Vernon was Washington's farm estate. Down the Delaware to the crossing of Delmarva, elk river to annapolis to the trail to mt Vernon. All still exists. Major Thoroughfare in colonial times. And an important port

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PatientNice t1_jdi2tyg wrote

Graphic design back then wasn’t what it is today.

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EMF911 OP t1_jdi454p wrote

Replying to Mor_Tearach (#2,333,246)

I meant more along the lines of we don’t appreciate it or incorporate it enough as Pennsylvanians.

The Maryland people are obsessed with theirs. It’s everywhere and on every thing.

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Yankiwi17273 t1_jdi5n8u wrote

Replying to EMF911 (#2,336,991)

Maryland’s way more obsessed with their state flag (and rightfully so). I would honestly propose we have some variation of the Keystone flag designs. Most of the alternative state flags with just Keystones on them tend to look amazing imo

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JustVern t1_jdi6q2k wrote

My husband has this tattooed on his back including the State animals. Yes, both amphibians, too.

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spiralbatross t1_jdida7e wrote

If you look at it indirectly it looks like a Guzzlord

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WingedChimera t1_jdivzfl wrote

These are some wildly Pennsylvania comments. I’ve never seen a group of people try so hard to deny they’re rad. PA is my favorite state for a lot of reasons but one of them is not the utter lack of self-confidence folks have in how cool our state is.

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FtheMustard t1_jdj0nwl wrote

Replying to Fat_Sackney (#2,339,875)

It's pretty bad. Way to busy in the middle. An island of mess floating in an vast blue space. Don't get me started on the tiny words. Big no-no on flags. Philly's flag is also bad because it makes the same mistakes but has a wide vertical stripe on either side, forcing the city seal to be even smaller.

Look at places like Chicago, Denver, Colorado, and Texas. Simple designs that look clean and neat. The people of those places not only know their flag but like it enough to display it and wear it on shirts and even tattoos. They connect with their state through the flag. I bet a majority of people in PA can even identify the flag. It's a bad flag.

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That_Guy682 t1_jdju36t wrote

Maryland: won’t shut up about their fucking flag

Pennsylvania: H O R S E Y

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Syska666 t1_jdkass6 wrote

Not on a flag tho. Can we please make a new flag

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Thoraxe474 t1_jdkf7nk wrote

I'll never forgive trash taste for giving it a D

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