Submitted by ActivatedFamiliar t3_ydl0mn in Pennsylvania
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Auburntravels t1_itstf09 wrote
Yeah Dr. Oz needs to get his cognitive impairments really looked at, good point.
Whistle_Pigs t1_itstwh2 wrote
Yeah I don’t know how you could watch that debate be confident in Fetterman. That was rough to watch.
LordFarquaad_theG t1_itsty4l wrote
No, I'd rather not be held hostage by Saudi Arabia who can jack up prices anytime they want.
Keep oil production the same but invest heavily in energy diversification which would bring true energy independence.
Janderss182 t1_itstynx wrote
Knock yourself out and vote for a guy who can function like a normal human being because u don’t like the other guy
Auburntravels t1_itsu6cp wrote
Yeah you make a lot of sense there, totally sold me there better then a 30 second TV campaign ad could do.
Janderss182 t1_itsua61 wrote
Yeah like nuclear energy predominately
LordFarquaad_theG t1_itsub9n wrote
Oz honestly seems more mentally impaired.
Guy thinks Medicare isn't "socialized medicine" lol
LordFarquaad_theG t1_itsufaa wrote
Nuclear is not bad. But we need to diversify, can't rely on one source of energy.
Janderss182 t1_itsuhk7 wrote
Hey I’m not even from Pennsylvania. I just can’t believe that Dr Oz sucks so bad that he could lose to a guy who seemingly is impaired to a substantial degree
Big-Revolution2164 t1_itsuhls wrote
Why isn’t Conor lamb up there
_switch360_ t1_itsujob wrote
Really? Fetterman was a train wreck and is cognitively impaired. Fracking bad, fracking good, me want a cookie.
Janderss182 t1_itsukr1 wrote
Cool. Most green energy sucks, is expensive, and is not efficient.
Janderss182 t1_itsuns4 wrote
Yeah but u said it in your own sentence. Dr Oz at least has the ability to think
Auburntravels t1_itsur7y wrote
Polls show that it may be the outcome from what I've been hearing in the news.
LordFarquaad_theG t1_itsuwm4 wrote
Not true. Solar, wind, geothermal, hydro are good non-dispatchable sources we can use to diversify.
LordFarquaad_theG t1_itsv0c4 wrote
Not intelligently
I'd rather go with an honest man like Fetterman than a scam artist like Oz
Janderss182 t1_itsv6k1 wrote
Not true. We don’t even have batteries that are capable of banking most the energy we get from many of those forms of power
ShockTheCasbah t1_itsv7pt wrote
It's not. When something is socialized, it means one entity (the government) controls the sole means of service and production.
Janderss182 t1_itsv904 wrote
Yeah and I thinks that’s insane lol
Janderss182 t1_itsvcxc wrote
Yeah at least fetterman can wear a carhartt jacket and lie about living the union way of life. I bet ur easy to sell things to
darkbloo64 t1_itsve9g wrote
Cause Lamb was a guaranteed L against Oz. He was too moderate to actually motivate voters, which is why Fetterman ran off with more than twice the votes Lamb could scrounge up in the primary.
LordFarquaad_theG t1_itsvek3 wrote
Hence why they are called non-dispatchable. You need to have both dispatchable and non-dispatchable for true energy independence.
Janderss182 t1_itsvgv2 wrote
Lol. I check in here sometimes and can’t believe how one sided it is haha
LordFarquaad_theG t1_itsvl22 wrote
Medicare (government provided healthcare) is socialism lol
Janderss182 t1_itsvn69 wrote
dispatchable isn’t even a word lol
ShockTheCasbah t1_itsvt5z wrote
Is a seniors only option for healthcare Medicare?
LordFarquaad_theG t1_itsvzej wrote
I could literally bring up how many times Oz has lied. Lies about his "magic pills". Lies about where he lives (New Jersey). Lies about how many houses he has.
Oz is a perpetual liar.
Janderss182 t1_itsw8tj wrote
Yeah he probably is. Isn’t that a unique think in politics lol. Grow up dude. Fetterman does the same thing and so does every other politician
PinkCantalope t1_itswbr7 wrote
Both these guys are bought. One is a closet democrat the other is running as the democrat
Bobbyroberts123 t1_itswe7x wrote
Not from Pennsylvania, but comments in a Pennsylvania specific sub? Oz is that you?
LordFarquaad_theG t1_itswhuo wrote
No, you could get private insurance via an employer, but your insurance would go away as soon as you left or were let go.
Premiums, deductibles, and co-pays are all much higher with private insurance however.
Which is why I laugh at anyone who tries to criticize Medicare since it keeps costs low for users.
Janderss182 t1_itswlcv wrote
well considering that I can string a sentence together, it’s probably not fetterman so
ShockTheCasbah t1_itswlqc wrote
SOLE MEANS OF PRODUCTION
LordFarquaad_theG t1_itswqj4 wrote
This guy is much more blatant though. Like your average politician might lie a bunch of times but Oz cranks it up to like x100. I just don't trust this guy.
Janderss182 t1_itsx0gl wrote
Again your just saying the same thing that everyone says who wants his team to win
LordFarquaad_theG t1_itsxh93 wrote
I don't think you are educated enough about this topic.
Janderss182 t1_itsxs13 wrote
I take it you have an issue with the shilling for Fetterman lol
ShockTheCasbah t1_itsy778 wrote
You don't even understand the definitions of the words you're using.
Just Google the word socialism and tell me what it says. Also, don't try and justify changing the definition of words to fit a weird and gaslighting type narrative that justifies Medicare is "socialized".
AnotherDaveFella t1_itsyksh wrote
Bought and paid for.
AnotherDaveFella t1_itsyndd wrote
I mean, just look at the elder abuse with biden.
johnhd t1_itsytu7 wrote
There have been 4 of these in the last hour alone. If there were stupid low effort “fEtTeRmAn BaD” memes being posted every 15 minutes instead of “oZ bAd”, I’d feel the exact same way.
KingSizeDingus t1_itszfx2 wrote
If his performance tonight wasn’t scary enough, the censorship and PR campaign being run on here and elsewhere surely is. It’s amazing how everyone thought Fetterman did great tonight
Janderss182 t1_itszx4j wrote
Totally agree
Janderss182 t1_itszynh wrote
Janderss182 t1_itt04j9 wrote
Ok cool. Don’t know what this really has to do with anything
LordFarquaad_theG t1_itt1fnw wrote
Define socialized
kiddestructo t1_itt1z6i wrote
You said green energy sucks. I gave you an example. It’s pretty simple..
ShockTheCasbah t1_itt2cwc wrote
You mean, like how I did in my first post? (without insulting you, I might add)
In a socialized medicine system, the government (or any entity really) controls the sole means of production and distribution of healthcare. No private insurance. What you're describing is a welfare capitalist state.
Poli science 101, but maybe you aren't educated enough this topic.
LordFarquaad_theG t1_itt3akt wrote
You're playing semantics.
You're argument is that Medicare is not socialized medicine since it does not employ the doctors and own the hospitals, but I'd say it's closer to socialized medicine due to its ability to provide healthcare to everyone.
That_Checks t1_itt3ffe wrote
I want all politicians to do less, so he surpasses the standard I have set.
ShockTheCasbah t1_itt4o64 wrote
My argument is that medicare is not socialized because there are multiple (infinite for arguments sake if you're rich) sources of private healthcare options for every American. The definition of "socialized" means that the government (or any centralized entity - THE PEOPLE) have a monopoly on all that is healthcare. They are VERY different.
Medicare is capitalist welfare.
LordFarquaad_theG t1_itt4tcf wrote
What would Medicare for All be then?
ShockTheCasbah t1_itt4wxd wrote
With a private option, it is STILL capitalist welfare. Without, it is socialized.
ShockTheCasbah t1_itt51rj wrote
Red pill initiated. 😆😆
LordFarquaad_theG t1_itt54hj wrote
Medicare for All would eliminate all private healthcare. Would that make it "socialized"
ShockTheCasbah t1_itt7cun wrote
Yes, if the only legal option you had for healthcare services were owned and operated by the government.
throwaway60992 t1_itt8cqn wrote
You clearly are not an engineer…
ThunderySleep t1_itt8zl3 wrote
Oh golly gee.... Yet another totally organic shit-tier meme from an activist account that exclusively posts memes regarding different campaigns across the county.
That aside: Fetterman's meme references did him no favors in this debate. He acted like a little kid with the outbursts and interruptions, not to mention the terrible answers. Trying to be hip with the references didn't help.
IntravenousDrugs t1_ittcajh wrote
Agreed.
"I absolutely support fracking" -Fetterman, 10-25-22
Edit: at least he "clarified" his position (I think?)
What a shitshow.
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OligarchWelfare t1_ittigle wrote
Green energy is cheaper than any but keep lying because that's what Republicans told you to believe
OligarchWelfare t1_ittil32 wrote
Just because you fascists think only your opinion should be allowed or else it's censorship, doesn't mean it's censorship.
OligarchWelfare t1_ittioie wrote
Because protecting freedom and democracy from fascist Republicans is far more important than a bad debate
OligarchWelfare t1_ittitqg wrote
Protecting freedom and democracy from fascist Republicans is far more important than a bad debate
Whistle_Pigs t1_itug6ck wrote
That seems like a bit of an extreme stance but I was hoping to get an understanding of what Fetterman stood for and what some of his actual plans are but I couldn’t comprehend anything like that from what he was saying. Debates aren’t everything but it at least give people a chance to hear candidates out, apart from those god awful campaign commercials, and after an hour I couldn’t tell you one moment where he gave any details about what he truly intends to do. It was just a bad look listening to him trying to form complete sentences.
Janderss182 t1_itunuyw wrote
Actually it’s not but keep lying because you’re an ideologue and can’t think outside of what your bullshit political parties tell you to think
Janderss182 t1_itunwci wrote
Far from a republican bud
Vague_Disclosure t1_ituuh94 wrote
It’s worse than the Philly sub which is honestly impressive.
Janderss182 t1_ituv46a wrote
Yeah you just gotta remind yourself too that it is reddit lol
DavidLieberMintz t1_itxep8t wrote
How advanced does it need to be? It works, like right now. We need to invest in the infrastructure for it.
Janderss182 t1_itst4ey wrote
Are people in Pennsylvania blind and deaf or do they just love the idea of putting a cognitively impaired person into power lol