Submitted by GammaRadJockey t3_11qquwx in baltimore

This will be the first time my wife and I have ever lived in a big city, and we're having a tough time deciding where to live. My wife will be working from home, we'll probably have a kid on the way soon, and I'll work at UMMC.

Suburbs is really all we've ever known, and are comfortable for us, but sometimes we go stir crazy with nothing to do. We REALLY want to rent a home and have a yard (grow plants, bbq with friends, etc). We also love the outdoors, hosting (our absolute favorite), and enjoy having our boring but reliable chains for grocery shopping/dining close by. We have a possible rental lined up on the border of Cockeysville/Timonium that checks all those boxes.

But....we're in our 20s and want to make friends and have a fun social life, and we feel Cockeysville may be too sleepy for that and we're having doubts. We've had issues finding friend groups in other sleepy older suburbs, so we worry about it. But living in the city means no yard, smaller townhome, difficulty parking, probably difficulty w hosting parties, and we'd probably have to completely revamp our way of life/thinking to take advantage of the city life. Lots of inconvenience from what we're used to. And we absolutely are not the kind of people who go to bars for fun, and I think walking to stores/etc would stress us out in Baltimore (but maybe we'd get used to it?). I'm just not sure if we'd adjust well, and maybe driving into the city for fun on the weekends/weekdays is the better option? We'd probably live in Hampden/Canton or adjacent areas from what we've been recommended.

So ultimately, we worry that if we rent a townhome in the city, we will feel trapped in a smaller place with no avenues (at home) to stretch our legs and de-stress. But if we live in the suburb, are we just ruining our chance to experience city life in a way we never have at an age where we can take advantage of it? Will a kid/my wife working at home change what we want, though?

Any insight would really be a great help. We're stuck and just keep going back and forth on what to do, if you can't tell lol. Thanks guys.

Edit: Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who commented and helped us out. I really wasn't expecting such an active thread! I appreciated everyone's opinion on both sides and I think this was the push my wife and I needed to be a little more adventurous and try something new! We're going to pass on the suburb home rental and try and find something in the city, probably in Canton (but are looking everywhere you all recommended! Volume is just low in some neighborhoods). Be sure to say hello to all your future CA to MD transplants in the coming months! You never know it might just be me lol.

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colonelcarnal t1_jc4n0f1 wrote

Best of both worlds, check out lauraville/Hamilton. In the city, stuff to do and plenty of green space and kind neighbors

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WaterWithin t1_jc4u9ep wrote

Thirding this, it's great here. You might also like Waverly or Beverly Hills, Northwood, Govans etc. Just throwing neighborhoods out there. I love Baltimore bc you can live in the city but have space for BBQ, gardening, etc. The rental market on the NE side is not great, but you could eventually buy a house here. Look around Morgan State University, there are more rentals in the student neighborhoods

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Panserbjornsrevenge t1_jc4tf57 wrote

Yes! I live in Hamilton and have the house/yard with a nice blend of people with kids, people without kids, and easy access to the city life. I love it here.

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GammaRadJockey OP t1_jc4oz14 wrote

We will have to look. Currently they don't really have anything that fits what we're hoping for, but these definitely weren't on our radar before! Thanks.

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waterorsharks t1_jc50coy wrote

Check out Charles Village too! We have a decent sized row home and small front and back yards. It's family friendly but you can also walk to a lot of restaurants and bars.

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Gorgon86 t1_jc54tnu wrote

Look at Cedmont. In the city. Single family homes with yards. Still easy to get downtown

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Few_Society5388 t1_jc4vf19 wrote

Thirding. Most of the areas off the main drag feel suburban but there are all kinds of amenities within walking distance. Tons of young families. The farmer’s market is awesome. Check out Hamilton-Lauraville Mainstreet.Hampden might fit your criteria but definitely has more of the issues that come with “city life”.

Eta: maybe check out Medfield? Walking distance to Hampden, close to multiple grocery stores, but a little more residential and quiet.

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steadyjello t1_jc6zkqz wrote

Came here to say this! I live in Arcadia/Beverly hills. And it's great. Feels like the suburbs but downtown is only 15 minutes away, and all the suburb shopping 10-20 minutes away as well.

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Thinker1022 t1_jc4v966 wrote

Rodgers Forge neighborhood right over the city line. Plenty of young families and couples. Row homes with small yards but people are always entertaining. Easy to meet people. Some walkable shops but easy drive to grocery shop etc.

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Final-Ad3772 t1_jc53bsj wrote

I was also going to suggest Rodgers Forge. It’s a nice compromise between city and suburbs. Small yards, very friendly neighbors, close to both the city and suburbs. Pretty easy commute to UMMC.

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ConsultantLadySam t1_jc567gl wrote

This is the best answer. Some of the best public schools in the county too.

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zta1979 t1_jc4tsdp wrote

Sounds like your mind us already made up and it's in the suburbs somewhere. I recommend Pikesville, or Mt. Washington.

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DarthDog371 t1_jc4yblt wrote

Just left Mt Washington. Loved it. City and nature all right there

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GammaRadJockey OP t1_jc4yuhj wrote

Is Mt Washington a suburb? 😅 Boy i have a lot to learn still haha

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iscott55 t1_jc4z17q wrote

Yeah and also the light rail is right there going downtown

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zta1979 t1_jc5aegk wrote

It is part of the city but right on the county line.

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ndennies t1_jc6d65g wrote

I can vouch for Mt Washington! My wife and I moved here to start a family. We wanted somewhere with lots of space but we still wanted to be within city limits and close to public transit. It’s lovely here. We’re a ten minute walk from the light rail and Mt Washington village, which has a few bars/restaurants, but are surrounded by the woods. Lots of yard space for gardening and composting. Pretty quiet area, not much traffic, mostly people out walking. Plenty of room to start a family and decent neighbors. Highly recommend! One thing though is that people don’t like to leave Mt Washington so it can be hard to find homes for sale.

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JoeRAwesome t1_jc6q8f7 wrote

Imo, it’s like the city version of Baltimore county. Some walking distance stuff and the people seem more accustomed to city life rather than the stereotypical burbs

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thefish1986 t1_jc509dm wrote

If not planning to move around a lot. I would def suggest the county. It’s just so much easier if your the type of people that want a yard and not wonder who is that person. The other big thing is Baltimore doesn’t really have your normal grocery stores in the city. Towson, cockeysville, Lutherville, sparks not much further out and get more for your money. The market is tough rn here. You can expect to pay 50k over asking in all those areas

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B-More_Orange t1_jc70vld wrote

> Baltimore doesn’t really have your normal grocery stores in the city.

Canton had Safeway, Harris Teeter, Target, BJ's, and Sprouts. And I most often shopped at the Giant in Hampden. This is an insane comment.

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FriedScrapple t1_jc4ohww wrote

Get a shorter-term rental, then decide? I don’t think you should commit to anything anywhere sight-unseen for longer than a month. And the good places get snapped up fast, you want the leisure to be choosy. I would personally hate to be stuck in a Cockeysville apartment at any age.

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GammaRadJockey OP t1_jc4p5ll wrote

We definitely have a diamond in the rough kind of place now that we think the landlord would want us for (has had a lot of interest), and we have family who've checked it out. What is it that you don't like about Cockeysville?

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FriedScrapple t1_jc4v03l wrote

The suburban apartment complexes are like the worst of all worlds, trapped with people and their noise through the walls while lacking any kind of street life, community feeling or conveniences at the same time. Hampden, Waverley, Mt Washington, Catonsville and Hamilton are younger, more sociable and neighborhoody. But like I said if you want a good place you have to have feet on the ground, do your homework and be able to jump on it. Committing sight-unseen is not smart, what works for an older relative may not work for you.

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GammaRadJockey OP t1_jc4ylsn wrote

>The suburban apartment complexes are like the worst of all worlds, trapped with people and their noise through the walls while lacking any kind of street life, community feeling or conveniences at the same time.

You've pretty much exactly described everything we've disliked about suburbs/apartments over these last few years haha. Thanks for taking the time to respond and giving some great suggestions

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Chocolateheartbreak t1_jc510ts wrote

Honestly you might like catonsville. Close to the city, cute downtown to walk around, good neighborhoods, young people since it’s close to a college.

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Ghost-of-Tom-Chode t1_jc5a12s wrote

NO

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FriedScrapple t1_jc5ajiq wrote

What’s wrong with Catonsville?

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Ghost-of-Tom-Chode t1_jc5b2cy wrote

It is not somewhere that I would suggest an out of town transplant family from the California suburbs move.

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Chocolateheartbreak t1_jc5c04t wrote

It’s a safe enough place which is why I suggested it. Community like, not super cockeysville like which they don’t want, and near the activity of the city with chains and they could have a yard. Where would you suggest?

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Ghost-of-Tom-Chode t1_jc5cd99 wrote

I think Lutherville/Timonium is a sensible choice for a family in their circumstance. I would not move inside the beltway. A Rodger’s Forge type of place would be great if they are into more condensed living, and want the urban feel around them. I wouldn’t choose that, but I’m not them. For townhome living, instead of Rodger’s Forge, I’d look at Mays Chapel.

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Chocolateheartbreak t1_jc5dbma wrote

I didnt suggest lutherville because they said they wanted a younger vibe with lots to do, which makes me think canton, catonsville, hampden and mt washington

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Ghost-of-Tom-Chode t1_jc5e3h2 wrote

That makes sense. I feel like there is plenty to do in the Timonium area, but it is not as condensed and it is not walkable.

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Chocolateheartbreak t1_jc5fuzn wrote

Yeah so i didnt suggest that bc of that. I thought of catonsville because you can walk around Frederick rd, but they could still have a yard and parking etc. make friends for bbq. They can order their groceries still. Near trails for the outdoors. They might also like elkridge or arbutus maybe. I do like mays chapel, i just dont think it’d fit them

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TaterTotz8 t1_jc4remf wrote

You can get basically everything you’re looking for in Hampden. Yard, parking, people your age, boring grocery stores, easy hosting parties, etc. not all the streets have yard and parking in the back, but lots have at least one! And there’s really only certain areas of Hampden that have difficult street parking.

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kl00 t1_jc4zmpf wrote

Housing is so small and so expensive I feel like everyone who just decides to live in hampden just doesn’t like having money

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scartonbot t1_jc6rced wrote

A lot of north Baltimore is like this (not just Hampden). There are actually lots of "suburban-type" neighborhoods (single-family houses, yards, off-street parking) all over Baltimore, just not near the downtown area.

I'd suggest picking some places and trying a "test commute" in the morning and the evening if at all possible. I live in north Baltimore now and when I went into an office (now about 95% remote) that was near Penn Station it took me maybe 15 minutes in the worst rush-hour traffic on 83 (normal, not apocalyptic accident/disaster traffic) to go about 5 miles. On the other hand, I lived in Catonsville years ago and was 8 miles from my office and it'd take me 40-50 minutes to get to work downtown because I had to take 40 the whole way. That being said, I also lived in Pasadena for a while and my commute could go as quickly as 20-25 minutes some days, probably averaging closer to 30 minutes even though I had to travel twice the distance I did from Catonsville. The lesson I learned is that you REALLY can't go by distance when estimating commuting time.

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TerranceBaggz t1_jc4rxgg wrote

Plenty of air bnb places in Baltimore city. Y’all could spend a week just trying different neighborhoods out.

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GammaRadJockey OP t1_jc4zsbd wrote

We've definitely considered it. It's our plan B if we feel really unsure/can't find anything we like.

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Leftturn0619 t1_jc51j8q wrote

I recently moved to Baltimore. I suggest doing a lot of research and definitely spending time here to get to know the area. It’s challenging finding a spot to call home.

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cookie4118 t1_jc569ke wrote

I honestly suggest doing this. Baltimore is known to be a city made up of neighborhoods and you don’t quite know how they’ll fit your vibe until you actually see them. We can explain how beautiful or how unappealing the neighborhoods are but you won’t know till you experience it! Baltimore has some really beautiful neighborhoods but also really run down/unsafe neighborhoods. Love Hampton, Canton, Hamilton, Mt. Vernon. But I also do love the cockeysville/hunt valley area in the county and find myself meeting friends there a lot as a middle ground area. Lots of shops, restaurants, breweries and close enough to the city the commute is not bad at all (I work at UMMC and live in Harford county suburb)

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GammaRadJockey OP t1_jc5b4xi wrote

How do you really go about getting to know a neighborhoods vibe without really living in the area?

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cookie4118 t1_jc5vyzs wrote

You could spend a week or two in the city and take day trips to all the little neighborhoods to see how you like them. You could also test drive your commute to UMMC from said neighborhood; as someone who works at UMMC I have heard my coworkers driving through the city to get to work can be such a hassle since UMMC is right next to the convention center, the football stadium and the baseball stadium so on event days traffic getting there is rough within the city

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TrollopMcGillicutty t1_jc57h14 wrote

I think it should be your plan A. We have so many different neighborhoods, all with different vibes. Trying them out a week at a time seems ideal.

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GammaRadJockey OP t1_jc5b5g8 wrote

How do you really go about getting to know a neighborhoods vibe without really living in the area?

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Ichabod- t1_jc4sh36 wrote

We're in Lutherville and I work at UMMC as well. We're at the top of the JFX and I'm downtown in 10 minutes and walking into the hospital in about 20. The area is great for having some space for your family but always being close to the city. Welcome to Baltimore and the University of Maryland Medical System.

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NoImpact3813 t1_jc57ve8 wrote

what high speed transit are you taking to get from lutherville to downtown in 10 minutes?

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Ghost-of-Tom-Chode t1_jc59x9r wrote

Lutherville proper is pretty much at the top of the JFX. With no traffic you can be downtown in 10 minutes with no problem. Another reason I’m a fan of Lutherville/Timonium.

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Ichabod- t1_jc681yo wrote

Falls and Joppa to City Hall is 13 minutes. I was close.

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GammaRadJockey OP t1_jc59h1c wrote

Thanks! Wasn't really familiar with this area til today. We will definitely check it out!

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JessLevelsUp t1_jc4qcfd wrote

I can tell you I do not know any couples who live in the county without kids, so I’d say it depends on what you want to do!

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GammaRadJockey OP t1_jc4yqe8 wrote

Yeah this is kind of our fear. For the past few years we've been smothered by people a decade + older than us just because of where we've needed to live and we're SICK of it lol.

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judeiscariot t1_jc5bf2f wrote

I know a lot of them because they simply don't want to live in the city 🤣

But I'm also over 35 and most of them are around 35.

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nonotsafestuff t1_jc4s32v wrote

Cockeysville/Timonium is very suburban so yea you'll just be experiencing more suburban life. There are other suburbs that have "city-like" features; Catonsville and Ellicott City come to mind and the commute from there to UMMC will be easier than from up north since you get to avoid 83 and downtown traffic. There's also Mt. Washington that's within city limits but very suburban-like and has a small main street and other small strips with restaurants, bars, shops, and a Whole Foods. Mt. Washington is also easier to access downtown since there's a light rail stop and you could use that for commuting if you wanted to as well.

Otherwise, there are some places in the city that will give you some more outdoor space but it's going to be dependent on your budget. Hampden (anything north of 37th street) has some homes that have decent sized yards. Otterbein is a nice community that's really close to downtown and has a lot of shared outdoor space. Along the same vein with shared outdoor space, anything around Patterson Park might work too. You won't have much "private" outdoor space save for maybe a small patio/offstreet parking pad and maybe a roofdeck though.

Really the appeal of living in the city is being able to walk to so many things if you want so you'd have to figure out if that is something that's really going to stress you out or not. Also I know very few people that live in the city and don't drive to go get their groceries still. If you're lucky enough to live within a few blocks radius of a grocery store it's probably not a big hassle, but otherwise everyone I know that lives in the city (Canton, Fed Hill, Patterson Park, etc.) drives to their grocery store(s) to get groceries. Or there's always the option to get them delivered.

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GammaRadJockey OP t1_jc4z3bm wrote

Haha thank you for correcting me/educating me. See I don't even really know what it's like to live in a city! But I'm warming up to it. Sounds like we'd have a lot of fun and we're coming around on the idea. Thanks.

Our budget is pretty high. Or soft ceiling is 3k probably, but hoping for a 3 bed w parking which can be limiting regardless of budget...

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nonotsafestuff t1_jc56230 wrote

With that budget you shouldn't have too much trouble finding a 3bd w/parking, but depending on the neighborhood it will limit you on outdoor space save for the parking pad and maybe a roof deck.

EDIT: Wanted to clarify that I mean no trouble finding a house/rowhome for that budget. Apartments are a whole different beast and usually more expensive given the amenities they provide.

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Sivla-Alegna t1_jc51ift wrote

We just purchased an oven 2,000 sq foot townhouse in Baltimore City with a 2 car garage and rooftop deck across from a school and large park. We will be limited to gardening in raised beds and containers, but otherwise, zero compromises on what we wanted. We are within walking distance to two grocery stores and countless bars and restaurants. You can have both city life and space if you want it.

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WildfellHallX t1_jc5dqal wrote

This sounds great! Which neighborhood?

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Sivla-Alegna t1_jc5k5xu wrote

Locust Point. We also looked at several places in Canton.

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jdl5681 t1_jc4uj6k wrote

I live in Lutherville Timonium and it is indeed sleepy. We moved here in 2019 and lived a year in the city (Butcher’s Hill). Personally I never wanted to live in the suburbs but we have two young children and the schools are much better here than the city, which was the deciding factor for us- that and property taxes cheaper in the county. People are friendly here but yes most have children and you have to create your own opportunities to meet people for the most part (although I’ve been told pre-pandemic there were more block parties). I wish you all the best in this decision and hope you find something that meets your needs.

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GammaRadJockey OP t1_jc4zdoa wrote

Thank you! So maybe in a few years with a kid or two around Cockeysville/etc will feel more like home

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JBG1973 t1_jc4xosp wrote

When we moved to Baltimore for work in our 20's we immediately bought what we assumed would be our forever home in Cockeysville. Seven years later we moved into the city and have never looked back.

When considering the commute to UMMC you need to consider how long it takes to get to 83 and whether there will be traffic on 83 at the times that you go. Most homes in Cockeysville are on the other side of York road from 83 and there are frequent accidents on 83 that can greatly lengthen your commute.

We did not really understand what living in true suburbs was like when we moved to Cockeysville and while there are lot of choices for groceries we could not walk to anything.

But the most important reason we did not like Cockeysville is that most of the people, in addition to being older, were born and bread in the suburbs of Baltimore and it was EXTREMELY difficult to meet/make friends. "Old Baltimore" culture is based around where you went to high school.

As some of the other threads recently have hinted at, Baltimore suburbs are very opposed to public transportation. I remember thinking that when they were going to put a bus stop at the entrance to our development that would be a good thing and would expand the number of nannies that I could hire but the neighborhood was universally opposed and the agreement was that the bus would go down the street but not have any stops anwywhere near the neighborhood. The listing comments included concerns that we were too close to apartment buildings, the closest which were over a mile away. Now, if this is the attitude you are looking for you might really enjoy Cockeysville.

We love living in the city..we have a yard that is just big enough for entertaining, and we enjoy being able to walk along the trails in the city and walk to the grocery store, Walgreens, our eating spots occasionally. We have been living in the city for fourteen years. Our neighbors are friendly, work together and are not limited to hanging out with their high school friends.

There are a lot of smaller family homes or townhomes with larger yards tucked away in the north baltimore corridor...Evergreen is close to the Stoney run trail, Miss Shirley's and other eateries and the homes have large enough yards to entertain...all of the neighborhoods listed in this thread are good choices.

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pperdecker t1_jc4yft6 wrote

Arbutus!

Ideally one of the detached homes in between east drive and Shelbourne because it'll put you in walking distance to the restaurants, shops, movie theatre in town and the events center on UMBC. There are sidewalks everywhere (if you have a stroller down the road), it's right off of many major roads, the elementary and middle school are good enough, they just starting building a new high school, patapsco state park is near by, and it's relatively affordable compared to other towns nearby. There's live music fairly often on campus or in town so there's some semblance of a night life but it's still a fairly sleepy blue collar town. There are also yearly events like the arts festival, 10K, and 4th of July parade.

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sweetbeat8 t1_jc4pnee wrote

Live in the city! You will always have a chance to move to a suburb if you don’t love the city later in life or when you have kids.

The city has plenty of places to stretch your legs and explore! The opportunity to walk to a ton of bars, restaurants, parks etc is such. In Baltimore lots of people have cars and it is easy to “escape” the city 20 mins for a nice hike or adventure.

I guess if you’re thinking about the city being a fun time this is the time in your life to try it out!

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GammaRadJockey OP t1_jc4zimj wrote

Yeah this resonates a lot with me. Also why we're renting. If we hate the city we can always move. Burbs are boring but also safe, and if we start there idk if we will ever find the motivation to leave lol

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TerranceBaggz t1_jc4rt9a wrote

Yeah Cockeysville is like families and people in their 50s-70s. We have rowhouse neighborhoods that would give you a bit of space and not put you in a high rise. Canton, Fells Point, upper Fells point, patterson Park all have close access to patterson park which is one of the largest parks in the city. They’re also walkable areas with bars/restaurants/entertainment. Canton/brewers Hill has many grocery stores and shopping (including big chains) much to my dismay, there is a suburban style shopping center here called Canton Crossing so y’all could still have that.

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GammaRadJockey OP t1_jc4z7xm wrote

>Yeah Cockeysville is like families and people in their 50s-70s.

Yeah this is kinda exactly what we don't want. It starting to sound like we'd be better off putting our best effort into trying out the city. I think we'd come around to it, just growing pains/foreign

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TerranceBaggz t1_jc756j1 wrote

It will definitely be a change of pace, but a good one to experience. Especially childless in your 20s. I grew up in the city, moved to the burbs for high school and college and then moved back to the city after college. It was an adjustment for sure but one that I’m glad I made. I love living a car light lifestyle and if I didn’t work in construction, would live a car free lifestyle. Living in a dense, walkable, mixed use neighborhood means everything is within a short walking/biking radius to me. No more dealing with traffic, frankly being forced to drive to the burbs on occasion now is just stress inducing. And because the he neighborhood we live in has been improving for the last 20 years, now we have 2 fantastic schools here (that frankly are better than most of the schools in the burbs) so now staying here even with kids is a quality proposition.

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pnrgi t1_jc4wosw wrote

Moved from Denver suburbs to South Baltimore in October. Zero regrets. South Baltimore (federal hill, locust point) and Canton have easy access to i95 which means you’re pretty much two hours from anywhere. There are plenty of hikes, museums, battlefields, beaches, historic sites, major cities, campgrounds, east coast “mountains”, and pretty much anything you’d want to do.

The city speaks for it self. It’s where the action is — theres always something going on. Sports, clubs, a really legitimate ice cream scene, and better than expected food.

The city has its downsides. Noise. Traffic. Basic things like getting groceries are tougher than the burbs. But they’re all pretty much things you can plan around.

Try to find a rental with a parking pad/spot in the alley behind the house. Find a rental on a non main street

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sweetbeat8 t1_jc5shhz wrote

+1 for south Baltimore the community and neighborhood is really great

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kl00 t1_jc4zfh5 wrote

Beverly Hills, Lauraville, Hamilton

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Lonnol78 t1_jc5jfqu wrote

My wife and I moved to Baltimore separately. We met each other in 2006 and then bought a house in South Baltimore where we had kids and lived until 2022. Last year we moved to Hampden/Roland Park. For what you are looking for I would try Hampden and surrounding neighborhoods. I can say my wife grew up in a small town, I grew up in the burbs, and neither of us can picture moving out of the city. It’s not perfect, but for us living a walkable lifestyle has been life-changing for the better. As others have said, give city living a try, you may like it, we met a ton of friends. If not, we have plenty of ubiquitous suburbs to choose from.

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PleaseBmoreCharming t1_jc4s87d wrote

Just curious, can you explain why walking to stores if you live in the city would stress you out? I feel like finding parking, driving to/from your destination would be more stressful than say...walking a block or two.

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GammaRadJockey OP t1_jc4zom7 wrote

I've gotten really good at grocery pickup/online orders so i never spend more than 5 minutes at a grocery store on my way home from work lol. We have a good system and not something I expect small city grocers to have, unfortunately. I hate shopping lol

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heronlyweapon t1_jc6a1td wrote

Baltimore has all the usual large grocers. Safeway, Publix, Giant, Whole Foods. There's Wegmans and Trader Joe's within a few miles of the city. You wouldn't have to worry about access to those places at all. It's not all bodegas and local spots.

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wesoloski t1_jc6p56o wrote

Where is this mystical publix? I'd go for a publix sub right now! ;)

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heronlyweapon t1_jc6pdoq wrote

derp, I meant Harris Teeter, lol. I live in NC now, obviously confused.

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kmilvin t1_jc4vuec wrote

We moved to Baltimore from AZ in December and got a long term Airbnb while we house hunt. I don’t love having all of our stuff in storage while we’re in limbo, but I’m so glad we waited and have had the chance to scope neighborhoods around the city and neighboring ‘burbs. You really, truly cannot understand the vibe of a neighborhood until you see it for yourself. I think that’s even truer here than out west where it’s pretty homogenous.

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GammaRadJockey OP t1_jc50349 wrote

How'd you go about getting a vibe? We had the exact same plan, Airbnb to eventually buy, before deciding to rent with the insane mortgage rates now. But I also wasn't sure how we'd even really get a vibe for a neighborhood anyways without living there? Drive to a new one each weekend and spend a day walking around I guess....?

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cookie4118 t1_jc57vdg wrote

Yes! The neighborhoods are relatively small. You could spend a week or two in the city and take day trips to all the little neighborhoods to see how you like them. You could also test drive your commute to UMMC from said neighborhood; as someone who works at UMMC I have heard my coworkers driving through the city to get to work can be such a hassle since UMMC is right next to the convention center, the football stadium and the baseball stadium so on event days traffic getting there is rough within the city

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kmilvin t1_jc7a9p2 wrote

Yep, exactly. We just drive around, walking isn’t even really necessary. The goods and bads of a neighborhood are usually readily apparent. Before we explore, we check google maps to see what goods and services would become our go-tos. Depends on what’s important to you guys but we’d love to have some local bars/restaurants and a Trader Joe’s or Sprouts nearby. Nice wine shop nearby maybe (warning! You can’t buy booze in grocery/convenience stores here). Then we just cruise around. Bestneighborhood.org has some helpful maps showing different neighborhood parameters like income, politics, age, and desirability. We’ve been at it since December and I think we’ve narrowed it down to a handful of places we’d like to be. I also work with folks who live here and they’ve been very helpful in providing supplemental info. Feel free to DM me with questions about neighborhoods you’re looking at!

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maidrey t1_jc56ur6 wrote

I’m not sure what part of Cali you’re from but one thing I’d keep in mind is that a lot of Baltimore suburbs are really easy to into the city especially compared to a lot of Californian cities/suburbs.

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_MyMomDressedMe_ t1_jc4wssl wrote

I moved to canton from Indiana and I love it here. If you want more space and are expecting children, I might recommend Hampden though. Enough room to have an actual backyard and still right next to the avenue for when you want to go out. Plus tons of other green space near by. You have the enormous Patterson park when you’re in canton but you’re much more on top of your neighbors. Fine for me, but kids may change the equation.

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100011_10101_ t1_jc4uwox wrote

I’m partial to living in the city. Born and raised in the suburbs but baltimore really isn’t a big city. It’s called smalltimore for a reason. Wasn’t long before we could walk into any place and know at least one person. We were in butchers hill. Still miss it. But we have kids now and wanted a yard.

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GammaRadJockey OP t1_jc4zwme wrote

That's awesome! Definitely what I miss about the ol' college days too. Being in suburbia can be pretty isolating especially without kids to help meet other people. Maybe that's an us problem though

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100011_10101_ t1_jc55ru2 wrote

I’d agree with that. The nice thing about baltimore is how eager most of the people we came into contact with were to meet new people. Also join a league of any kind you’ll meet so many new people and friends in a hurry.

We do know a few people who stayed in the city after having kids and seem to be doing well. Patterson park was a good way to start the day off with a walk with the dog before work. We had a cute little patio in the back of our yard we’d host friends all the time at. Even had enough room for a small fire pit. I’m partial to the city for convenience but if you have to have a small yard hampden isn’t a bad option. Still the city. With some yard potential.

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twistwanwitme t1_jc4w1bp wrote

UMMC is easy access from Elkridge area (just south of town). It's Howard County, which has exceptional schools, incredible parklands, bike trails, and it's not as expensive as Ellicott City. I'm a Baltimore City boy, and proud city booster, but time has softened my views on County life. Catonsville is also just a fantastic place to live and raise kids! WELCOME!!!

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dizzy_centrifuge t1_jc521ir wrote

In Baltimore City north of Cold Spring rd between Falls rd and York rd. Towson is technically the suburbs but has undeegone a lot of development in the past several years, so it would be a nice compromise of the 2.

Cockeysville is fine, too. Geographically, Baltimore is a small city, and when you consider the actual areas you'd never want to set foot in, it gets much smaller so it's very easy to drive into the city

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emilvolcheck t1_jc5iyyc wrote

Check out Live Baltimore https://livebaltimore.com/ for a great overview of hundreds of neighborhoods in the city. Many good neighborhoods have already been mentioned (Hamilton, Hampden, Medfield, Roland Park, etc.). I'll second Charles Village (as a resident of the Abell neighborhood) and add Oakenshawe, Harwood, Tuscany-Canterbury, and Wyman Park to the list of great neighborhoods to live in.

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Proof-Distribution62 t1_jc65lic wrote

Moved to butchers hill 15 years ago from chicago. We were in our 20s, loved patterson park, and being walkable to fells point. Now 3 kids later happy to report our local public school is truly amazing (and about to go through a $48 million upgrade). If you’ve never done city life, Baltimore is a great place to try it out. Super friendly people and relatively affordable. Our area is very walkable with a ton of waterfront paths and many restaurants and bars between fells, canton, and highlandtown.

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AutomaticChemical729 t1_jc4xx03 wrote

We live in Canton currently and we absolutely love it. A ton of young families with babies/young kids. We have ALL the things you mention wanting in terms of community and then more - especially with a baby, we are loving being so close to restaurants and coffee shops. Parking is actually much easier in Canton than in other urban areas where we have lived (Washington DC), and we have a lovely roof deck and have Canton Waterfront and Patterson Parks for nearby green space. Best of all worlds and no soul-diminishing cookie cutter suburb life.

Agree with folks’ advice here to rent first to feel things out before making a more permanent move!

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Sasha_Yap t1_jc54ilx wrote

I work in a school near Cockeysville and it is the ideal suburbs to raise a family as well as the surrounding neighborhoods (Timonium, Towson, Sparks, Phoenix etc.). However, many adults in the area are parents and most interactions happen through their children’s school, hobbies, sports, birthdays, community events etc. So just like many other replies to your thread, I would suggest initially living in the city. The Mt. Washington and Hampden communities seem to meet your immediate needs. They are both relatively safe, walkable, and accessible neighborhoods with friendly people. If you choose to live within one of these communities, the warmer seasons ahead will give y’all lots of opportunities to meet people through events, pop ups, etc. and for you to host your own events, and to just enjoy the outdoors. Also it’s awesome your partner works at UMMC. Your partner will come across a big community of people that include plenty of transplants that can offer advice and support. Best of luck to you and I hope you find what you’re looking for!

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NoImpact3813 t1_jc585k4 wrote

As someone who has lived in the area for 75% of their life and whose parents live in Towson, if you confine yourself to Cockeysville or anywhere that survives off of driving down York Rd, you just might go stir crazy. Especially if you're in your twenties. It's a sleepy little area.

I live sort of at the border of Roland Park and Hampden, work at UMB... where North Baltimore City and Baltimore County meets has so many lovely kind of "hybrid" suburban/city neighborhoods with lots of character and great schools around. You can get green space (Stony Run, Lake Roland, etc) and have access to loads of cultural aspects of Baltimore, restaurants, but still get that safety and quiet at times.

*edit: and places like hampden are gonna have that older 20s/starting families kind of feel, it feels very community oriented. i would love to live in the neighborhood directly east of moms in hampden if i was starting a family.

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Ghost-of-Tom-Chode t1_jc59mum wrote

Cockeysville/Timonium is a great location for late 20s+. I regret moving away from Timonium seven years ago. I often go back to the old neighborhood to see friends. When my youngest finishes school, I might move back. I moved to a place called Baldwin, MD, but it feels too rural. Timonium was a great balance. I also like being just outside that 695 beltway loop.

I don’t know what kind of environment you’re comfortable in, but some of these suggestions are very far off in culture and crime rates from where you are looking in the Timonium area. Some are awesome pocket communities, but they are in areas that are slowly being consumed by the worse parts of Baltimore. If you’re in the right pocket you’re okay, but if not, you might have a problem. Very heavy traffic inside 695 too.

Timonium doesn’t have much of that other than the one apartment community in Cockeysville, and that’s not exactly bad. Be cautious. Overall, the tide is rising in that area. Some of these other places, not so much.

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judeiscariot t1_jc5btlp wrote

Yeah I don't get all of the hate from others. I lived in Cockeysville from 27-35 and it was perfect. Easy access to 83 which could take me to stuff in the city, but affordable rent, options for groceries, and quiet when I wanted it...and also accessible to Loch Raven and lots of rural places.

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GoGoRouterRangers t1_jc5c9xo wrote

Not sure if it has been mentioned but for friends you and your wife should scout VOLO and join a league

Also, beware any 5 over one building in Canton. It will have extremely thin walls

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GammaRadJockey OP t1_jc5luy9 wrote

VOLO is awesome thanks!! We did lots of rec sports in college and have really been missing it these past few years.

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GoGoRouterRangers t1_jc5nbwh wrote

Definitely - for people in the mid 20's Fells Point Area/ Little Italy, Upper Fells Point, Canton, and MAYBE Federal Hill are all solid spots in my opinion. These are places where you and your wife can walk around to a bar, volo, or night event and not worry about having to ubering around everywhere. Plenty of different things to hit up and see too.

I think Suburban life in MD is just going to be too boring personally until you are in your 30's and your kid HAS to go to school. The walkability of all places above are nice because you can walk to almost all VOLO events or go out to eat/ get into something once you meet others. Living in the burbs will be a pain having to pay for parking, taking ubers when you do drink, etc. And, there just isn't a night life.

Canton has a shopping center you can walk to, but, honestly the night life is a little bland. I personally think Fells / Little Italy / Federal Hill have better night life than Canton. However, Canton does have the "Canton Square" but it is just more limited. Also, the park in Canton near the water also hosts a lot of food trucks, and events during the spring and summer so there is that I suppose.

When I lived in Canton the walk to and from my apartment to the shopping centers was just across the way. I still decided to drive just bc it ended up being almost a .75 mile walk all said and done. So, it is walkable, but, driving is still probably easier if you are getting groceries, etc.

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Edit: Reread your post. I would entertain a row home potentially in one of these spots for space - also, even if you don't drink puts you near a lot of restaurants and row how will make it so you can have plants, and entertain

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MissiontwoMars t1_jc5m0dy wrote

As someone who moved from CA to Baltimore I have some idea of the move here. First, if you’re in your twenties and have no kids…just no to the burbs man. Y’all can be boring later in life. Move to Canton and the surrounding areas near the Patterson park (south of Baltimore street) and Fells Point. The other option is Fed Hill/Locust Point/Riverside. Get a row home, get a rooftop deck to throw 4th of July parties and watch the fireworks in the harbor. Check out the many restaurants and bars and nightlife all around the city has to offer. You’ll meet new people, have lots to do, and have fun. And to be clear I’m not saying you have to love bar crawling to enjoy the city, lots of cool local restaurants and bars to catch a game, enjoy a happy hour and some food on the patio. If you want to live in strip mall hell then go for the burbs but that sounds awful.

Edit: I didn’t see the part about kids. My wife and I have a toddler and another on the way and live in Canton. Love it. One day sure we will move out and settle down when they need to be in good schools but for now there are so many activities for the kids here.

Edit 2: You won’t drive into the city for fun if you live in the burbs. People in the county think we live in Afghanistan. You’ll worry about parking and not know where to go and probably end up in a tourist trap crappy restaurant when you do come.

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flobbley t1_jc72n9d wrote

>People in the county think we live in Afghanistan.

Yup. The questions I get from people when I tell them I live in Baltimore you'd think I'm dodging bullets on the daily, but hey that's the reason I was able to get a house for half the price of other east coast cities so whatever man let the rumors fly lol

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learningto___ t1_jc503tu wrote

Why not be spontaneous. Move to the city and try a new way of living? Try to find a place with a parking pad that way you only have one car to find parking for. You get used to not having a yard. Instead of a yard you might have a back patio and a rooftop deck instead.

You mention you don’t want the same as you’ve had and you want something new, but you’re choosing more of the same.

If you dislike it after a year, move out to the county(outside the city).

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bbbright t1_jc5ap1s wrote

I would definitely not recommend Cockeysville if you’re looking for city vibes/making friends with younger people. In your shoes I’d choose one of the many great areas people have recommended within city limits and sign a year max lease. If you hate it, I promise the suburbs aren’t going anywhere and you can move there once your lease is up!

You may not be able to get everything you want but you can probably get at least some of what you want in a place. Parking is tougher in some of the more popular neighborhoods but it’s not unmanageable. If you’re commuting to UMMS main campus there’s a bunch of public transportation options if you decide that driving and parking every day is too much of a hassle. If you’re unable to get a house with a yard there are community gardens that you can try to get a plot in. I’ve had no problem hosting parties at my place in the city, if you make friends with other city dwellers they’ll be able to figure out how to get to your place.

There are TONS of things to do aside from drinking at bars all over the city—if there’s anything particular you’re fans of this is a great place to get recommendations and I’m happy to recommend stuff as well.

I personally am not a huge fan of the suburbs and I think the pluses of city life are very much worth some of the inconveniences. If it’s something you’ve not experienced and have the desire to try I think doing it while you’re still in your twenties and before having kids is the ideal time.

Welcome to Baltimore!

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judeiscariot t1_jc5aqch wrote

The one good thing about Cockeysville, as far as suburbs go, is the easy access to 83, making it convenient to go into many city neighborhoods. But you'd probably be happier in one of those places.

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terpischore761 t1_jc5slsr wrote

I’m on the West side of the city and Catonsville/Arbutus is also a good option.

I live in Hunting Ridge but understand it might be a bit too hood adjacent for you. With traffic I am a 12 min drive to UMMC straight down 40 and a turn on Greene. I have both a front yard and a backyard. A driveway + street parking. And very nice neighbors.

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Moiler62 t1_jc61ord wrote

If you are in your 20s I would definitely recommend trying out the city. So much to do in Baltimore. Mt Washington would be a good choice and you could have a yard. But also close to stores. The neat thing is that the light rail is there and will take you about two blocks from work and also easy access to theater bars etc. You may or may not decide to raise kids in the city -everyone is different- but at least enjoy the city now.

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Absurdityindex t1_jc4xazy wrote

You might like Catonsville or Glen Burnie.

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pperdecker t1_jc576ui wrote

What are the likable parts of Glen Burnie? I only ever end up there for shopping or MVA stuff and it's yet to wow me. Is there an old town or cute parts that aren't congested and filled with chain stores?

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iamthesam2 t1_jc52s3b wrote

anywhere between roland park and hampden should work, but mt wash is a personal fav.

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PigtownDesign t1_jc6fa90 wrote

Only neighborhood between RP and Hampden is Hoes Heights.

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iamthesam2 t1_jc8tjfk wrote

i know nothing about that area, but i meant including hampden and RP

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rochambeau1903 t1_jc5k6u2 wrote

Take this from someone who moved to the area a year ago but would prefer not to live here, based on the parameters you laid out above (which nearly describes what I’d be looking for), Towson north to hunt valley or Catonsville/ellicott city are going to be your best bets. Sure not as many young people, but If you’re going to be having kids in the near future, better off in the burbs and most likely Lutherville timonium or ellicott city. Honestly, a lot of the young people are going to be bar people. You can always live in a suburb and join a league or something in the city.

I live in Catonsville area now. Moved here from Cleveland a year ago. I’ve been to downtown Cleveland as many times in the last year as I have been to downtown Baltimore. I’m not a bar person myself. I grew up in northern Baltimore county and have been dealing with this area for the better part of 40 years so I do have a solid grasp on what the area is like.

Now that I think about it, I’d even consider Severna park or Annapolis.

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S-Kunst t1_jc62ong wrote

The real question is are you interested in an interesting living experience or what is comfortable? The suburbs offer the predictability of a chain restaurant. Many middle class Americans come from this environment, and only seek it out when moving to a new town. Baltimore city has many very different neighborhoods. Some are very city-like, and some are more pre wwII suburban, and a few places are 1970s suburbs which sit uncomfortably in the city. We have mill-town neighborhoods (Hampden/Woodberry & Dickeyville (which is like an English village), we have up-scale upper middle class town houses (Bolton Hill, Mt Vernon). We have downtown apartment living. Then there are the neighborhoods which are a mix grill of gentrified middle class rubbing elbows with working class (Charles Village, South Baltimore) Then there are our gold coasts. Roland Park, Homeland, & Guilford.

Please do not buy until you have visited and been given a tour of the neighborhoods. It is best to rent, with most of your items in storage, so you can roam around and see the neighborhoods.

Keep in mind Uni of MD is in the city. It and Hopkins Medical are huge entities which press hard on their neighborhoods and are controversial in what they give back to the city. By living in the city, you will be supporting a great historic city of the country. If you are in the burbs, all your earnings will go to support the county and will be a drain on the city.

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Sunshineal t1_jc68w8x wrote

I'd do Canton over hampden. Canton has more of night life then hampden. Plus Canton is right by the water. They're building up a lot apartments and condos in Canton. Hampden I dislike because the parking sucks and it's crowded. It doesn't offer much like Canton does.

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Krljcbs t1_jc6gtzk wrote

It doesn't sound like you want city life, other than to be social. But Baltimore is a city of neighborhoods, each has it's own feel and resources. For example, I'm in Mt. Vernon with what you described (no yard, parking difficult for friends, no grocery chains) - but I have 10+ restaurants, the Lyric, the Hippodrome, and the Walters within walking distance. I can even walk to the harbor in about 30 mins!

But there are other city neighborhoods offer what you're looking for. I would avoid Canton if you want a yard and parking. North Baltimore might be the best fit for you, but I second the folks recommending you come here first before deciding which neighborhood.

Also, it'll be hell to drive either into the city or out of the city at various parts of the day regardless where you are. Many of us feel trapped from 4-6pm everyday due to rush hour.

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hawkbit92 t1_jc6ly2o wrote

Anneslie and Rodgers Forge neighborhoods.

Close to the city, little shops in the area as well as bigger ones, walkable, good schools very close by, lots of young families to get to know. I grew up in Anneslie and it was absolutely wonderful. Made some really great childhood friends and it was very safe and still is. Honestly, would love to live there again one day.

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its_tino_dawg t1_jc6mteu wrote

I live in northeast baltimore. You may be able to find an affordable single family home in that area . We like it because we have a yard and a driveway and no attached neighbors. Pretty decent things to do in nearby Belvedere square, or rotunda. And downtown is only like a 17 minute drive.

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Scrilla_Gorilla_ t1_jc6nfme wrote

You know that scene in Coming to America where Eddie and Arsenio first pull up in Queens with all their luggage and stuff?

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ChurchMilitant91 t1_jc6si6k wrote

Transplant from Los Angeles to Maryland here. We just bought our house in Woodlawn. It is suburban, but a short drive to Baltimore City. (20-30min depending on traffic.) Catonsville is also next door. (Another great place.) The best I can compare our general area here, is what Pasadena and Orange County might have been in CA. I highly recommend sticking to a suburb and driving out to “fun” spots. I’m a stay at home mom and plan to work from home eventually. The city will not offer the space and peace your wife will need. Being a young couple in the suburbs doesn’t have to be isolating. Once you’re settled, you can look up local meet ups. I’m also sure you’ll end up making friends amongst your coworkers. Good luck with the house hunt! :)

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wesoloski t1_jc6tw0h wrote

To me, your post reads like list of reasons you are using to talk yourself out of living the city life you've never experienced. At first I read this post as purchasing a home and I would have put my support behind living in the county. But renting? I'd do a year or two in the city (plenty of suggestions where in this thread), experience the good and the bad, then figure out what you want to do when the time feels right.

FYI, I moved out of downtown (fed hill) in my late 20's for some of the reasons you mentioned. Knew a kid was on the way, wanted a large yard, dog, room to host, etc. I'd lived in the city for 6+ years though, and got to experience a lot of great times in my mid 20's. We made the move to Arbutus (which I've recommended in the past) and are now looking to upsize yet again. Arbutus/Catonsville/Ellicott City are all areas that I'd recommend looking at if you decide against city life.

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Reaganomics82 t1_jc6y4vs wrote

Homeland would be “suburbs” but still in the city. That would be my recommendation.

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B-More_Orange t1_jc7308o wrote

You wouldn't have the yard, but I'd recommend Canton if you can find a nice place with a large rooftop deck for grilling/entertaining. If you're renting anyway, you can always move in a year or two if it's not your speed, but I don't know what the hell I'd do if I moved to a new place where I didn't know anyone and then wound up in a Cockeysville apartment.

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ccsve t1_jc943ge wrote

Northwest Baltimore is great. Calmer and more quiet than downtown. Bike or hike the Jones Falls trail from Mt. Washington to Woodberry or Druid Hill Park (Rawlings Conservatory and the zoo)and stop by the Cylburn Arboretum along the way. Nice restaurants and lots of shops in the area. Some of the best public schools in the city (Mt. Washington, Roland Park, Medfield Heights, Poly and Hampden) and several private schools as well. Easy access downtown via 83 and the light rail. For groceries: Giant, Eddie’s, Whole Foods, Mom’s Organic market. Baltimore Museum of Art and The Walters Art Museum are a short drive away.

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Sufficient-Act-1054 t1_jcke41i wrote

We just moved from Cockeysville to SD! We lived in Hampden before kids and loved it. We were from Baltimore County so Hampden was a good intro to city life. Mt. Washington/Hampden is good for city life without being completely in the middle of the city and Towson/Rodgers Forge area has Belvedere Square and you’re right on the outskirts of the city.

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BunkyDingDing t1_jc5fl64 wrote

Catonsville is the vibe. Plenty of young people. It’s “Music Town, Maryland” mostly because it has a lot of music stores, notoriously, Bills Music. I grew up in Catonsville and I’d love to move back there but unfortunately I’m priced out right now. There’s a bunch of great restaurants (Taneytown has the best MD crab soup IMO), some nightlife (State Fare), lots of green space. To me it’s kind of the closest thing to a hippie town we have in Baltimore. It’s very safe west of the beltway and mostly safe in the neighborhood “Paradise” east of the beltway. It’s also super close to Ellicott (Pronounce like Ella Kit… don’t say Elli COT) City which has tons of cute shops and can be a fun little switch up. Catonsville also has a college, UMBC, which is know for its academics and grad programs so there are plenty of young people who are professionals or soon to be professionals.

Suburbs I’d stay away from are anything in east Baltimore like Essex(move close to the water if you go this route), Dundalk or Rosedale and Randallstown, Glen Burnie, Brooklyn, Lansdowne and parts of Arbutus/Halethorpe.

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RestoredV t1_jc5lh4f wrote

Recent transplant to Baltimore.

I’ve lived in two areas, outskirts of Baltimore 5 min from Catonsville and around Bolton Hill, a hip “up and coming” part of Baltimore.

This might be sacrilegious here, but unless you go to Hopkins or need immediate access to Penn Station, there’s no real need to live in Baltimore proper.

Near Catonsville I am 20 minutes away or less from anywhere worth visiting in Baltimore. Charles Village, Fells Point, Fed Hill, I am 20 minutes and in many cases only 15 away. In this case I was also only 40 away from DC, and 30ish from Rockville, and 20 from Columbia. I’m relatively free of any traffic in the morning or afternoon.

Now I live in Baltimore proper due to desire for proximity to Penn Station…. More expensive, more dangerous, worse schools, and I don’t go to Charles Village, Fells Point, or Fed Hill often enough to make its short commute worth it. Tbh Baltimore nightlife can’t hold a candle to DC’s.

As someone who LIKES living in Baltimore, it’s really a case of a suburb of a city being better than living in the city itself.

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jbeltBalt t1_jc5n5yd wrote

Also, you can get to the city any time for the various things to do.

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2coolDanes t1_jc6hqp8 wrote

Based on reading some of your responses to comments, I’m going to suggest the following:

Columbia Towson Timonium

In that order. I really think you and your family would enjoy these places. Columbia is very family oriented and has a bunch of youngish adults and new families. Good school system. Tons of entertainment. A good social fabric there. Moved to Columbia from Baltimore during the pandemic and have been really happy.

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Bumbleclat t1_jc4mikb wrote

Live in thr burbs,travel to city.

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GammaRadJockey OP t1_jc4pf04 wrote

What makes you think that's the best option?

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Bumbleclat t1_jc4zpme wrote

It seems that you want the backyard and a little more space. When you want to be in BBQ mode, invite people over. If you want nightlife, more activities, hit the city. It's really just an opinion of choice

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BudsCarsGuns91 t1_jc5fwif wrote

I would checkout Annapolis and the surrounding areas closer to Annapolis. Your only 30 minutes from Baltimore and you can enjoy the water. While living in a nicer area. This suburban area will also give more space than any area around Baltimore while also being close to everything.

Edit- enjoy the water

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jbeltBalt t1_jc5n4cw wrote

Live in the county, any county. If you plan to have children you want to avoid city schools unless you go private. If you don’t believe me just look at the test scores.

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B17BAWMER t1_jc5ruvy wrote

Suburban is better. Going to be honest. You can always just drive into the city. Traffic is usually fine.

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[deleted] t1_jc6o439 wrote

Are you into roving dirt bike gangs?

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InsaneFromThePain t1_jc74nk0 wrote

I wouldn't live in the city if I had a choice. I am right on the Southeast county line. I believe all bills like water, etc are higher in the city.

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Avocadobaguette t1_jc4o337 wrote

Maybe towson is a good middle ground? It has a small downtown area but still not a big city. Lots of rowhomes that could give you the yard / entertaining space you want but still have proximity to suburban style shopping.

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GammaRadJockey OP t1_jc4pchp wrote

Edit: Sorry mixed up Towson/Timonium lol.

If we did go for Timonium, do you think we'd be missing out on out on a lot of the benefits of living in Baltimore? Like how different really would life be in Towson vs Timonium vs Inner Harbor/etc?

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Avocadobaguette t1_jc4rg3e wrote

I mean, you would be missing out on a lot of the benefits of Baltimore, but just from your description, it doesn't sound like you'd really enjoy city living.

If you'd like to try it, maybe rent an air bnb in a neighborhood in baltimore for 2 weeks before you commit to a long-term rental. See how you do with the space, the parking, the walking, etc. before you commit.

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kenobibenr2 t1_jc4qplj wrote

You’ll never go to the inner harbor area/live there unless there’s a specific event going on. The in city areas “near” the harbor are fells point, federal hill, harbor East and further back Canton.

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StablerPants t1_jc6dv3k wrote

Not the person you replied to, but I recently moved from the city to Towson/Timonium. I like that my new house has more space, a garage, a big yard, and is handicap-accessible, which is the reason why we moved at all. It was impossible to find wheelchair- friendly homes in the city after looking for 6+ months. This area offered a compromise, where we are close (5-15m drive) to young people (given Towson U), restaurants, shopping, and parks, but there are no sidewalks or public transit, and few opportunities to meet new people organically. We have to be intentional about planning outings and activities.

We used to live in Butchers Hill (10+ years) and loved it and I miss it. Being next to Patterson Park was fantastic. Could walk to a ton of restaurants, a brewery, lots of cute, local shops, hopkins hospital, and conveniently located in between UMMC and Bayview hospital. I used to work at both and for years took the bus to work. Butchers Hill has a lot of young families and health care professionals and scientists. I had a kid while living there and made many friends with other families just by walking around, going to community events, and hanging out at the park. It was also MUCH easier to find full day, accredited, reliable childcare in the city than in the suburbs.

I suggest you give city life a try. The suburbs will be there later, if you'd like to reconsider or your life circumstances change, as it happened to us.

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NerdOfNugs t1_jc7ipap wrote

Suburbs don’t live in a dangerous shit of a city

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