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JustUseTheWordMmmkay t1_javitzy wrote

I’m interested to know what fast charging is here. Anything over 5w like the ones we had for ages? Also want to know if Apple will cap the speeds if using the £100+ cables they already sell.

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Snakeeyes1991 t1_javjo9q wrote

One law towards universal cables and companies already found a way to bypass it.

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AlanBall74 t1_javjv0z wrote

Standard apple shite, locking you to their (overly priced) peripherals, best move I ever made 7 years ago was ditching all Apple products! If you gave me one tomorrow I'd sell it the next day!

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synthdrunk t1_javkexf wrote

EU shouldn’t be afraid to go after them for spirit of the law.

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D3ADSONGS t1_javkt3c wrote

I can't wait to get the Apple Cable Pro and get Apple Care for that too

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GreyJedi56 t1_javllvu wrote

Apple fine, we can all have one connector but no fast charging except with ours.

Your elitism and need to have an iPhone make this possible. Break free stop supporting their terrible practices.

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FuckedYourSandwich t1_javorjg wrote

Replying to AlanBall74 (#2,157,943)

> I don’t like big brother watching over me

Personally, I think you’re a coward. Take me for example. I invite big brother to monitor everything I do because listening to endless conversations about which one of my wife’s co-workers did something stupid today or what activities my kids have to go to has definitely caused some of those big brother types to at least rage quit, if not commit suicide. Your life is just as boring as mine (sorry - delusions of grandeur aside, we both know it’s true) and yet you’re not doing anything to weaponize your mundanity.

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0000GKP t1_javppat wrote

I’ve used nothing but third party cables to charge my iPhones for the past 15 years. Every one of them has had the Apple certification. Every one I buy in the future will also have it. Every well known brand name has it.

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WeRAliens t1_javszxk wrote

Why do people still buy Apple. The only Apple I bought was a ipod and I knew right away I'll never buy Apple again.

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yoranpower t1_jaw1bo2 wrote

Replying to 0000GKP (#2,158,002)

But they won't need the apple certification anymore. That's the hole thing. Got an android charger? Great! Charges your IPhone now as well. If it's slower, then it's Apple to blame.

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Fijian96 t1_jaw6c4o wrote

Isn't Samsung, who's been using USB since the inception of their mobile phones, doing the same thing? I'm pretty sure you need a Samsung cable or dock to access fast charging. Not saying the practice is good, but I don't think Apple is the first to do this.

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Sassquatch0 t1_jaw9mrd wrote

Replying to Substantial_Boiler (#2,158,091)

No - OnePlus gives you a bonus if you use their charger. But they don't penalize you for using someone else's.

It's like this: buy the OnePlus charger, and you get 200% charging speed! SuperVook ftw.

Buy any other charger, you get 100% of it's charging speed.

Apple is going: buy our charger, you get 100%. Use any other charger, you suffer with 60% speed.

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yuxulu t1_jawnlus wrote

Replying to 656666_ (#2,158,615)

If you are talking about some of the insane charging speeds by chinese phones, i think it is because they deliver 120w which is higher than other charger/cables.

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crimsonblueku t1_jawopff wrote

This isn’t anything new. USB C cables need to be rated and certified for power draw and data transfer. Do you think a $10 USB C cable from Amazon could fast charge any phone or offer TB3 speeds? Heck no.

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adamcoe t1_jawzsh5 wrote

Standard idiot tax for using their overpriced garbage

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[deleted] t1_jaxox07 wrote

Replying to LeapIntoInaction (#2,158,852)

No. Stuff like SuperVOOC or WARP charge has nothing to do with cable quality. It's simply a proprietary standard lock-in, and you can tell by the fact that the other side of the Type-C cable is an old USB-A.

Use the best Type-C you can find and you still won't have access to it.

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[deleted] t1_jaxpo63 wrote

Replying to JustUseTheWordMmmkay (#2,157,739)

Put the crack pipe down.

  • Apple doesn't sell, never has sold, 100€ cables. They cost ⅕th of that price.

  • Made For iPhone certified cables can be so cheap even Amazon Basics sells them.

Criticize all you want but don't make up stuff for easy karma.

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chewb t1_jaxrbf7 wrote

Replying to Skeptic_Sinner (#2,160,244)

weird how apple stole capacitive touchscreens, high resolution displays, multiple cameras and pretty much everything from android but hey, have one bad feature available in hundreds thousands of phones that they copied and NOO, they're not really copying android this time, just a few models that have this feature, so definitely not all of android 🤣 weird how that works

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Skeptic_Sinner t1_jaxrq9m wrote

Replying to chewb (#2,161,474)

They are not copying android because android as an operating system allows fast charging from any source. Stop saying "android" as if it's a brand that makes phones or something.

The rest of your rant is just putting words in my mouth and not worth responding to. Just know that apple couldn have copied screens or cameras from android because android has no screens nor cameras

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[deleted] t1_jaxs999 wrote

Replying to adamcoe (#2,160,256)

Imagine looking down on other people for using a different object than you use.

Brings me back to my early teenage years, when I was taking part to console wars. Sadly for your cerebral development now we are adults.

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Blinx-182 t1_jaxzfsb wrote

I guess we all forgot that a few years ago USB-C cables were hit or miss to the point where a Google engineer had to make a spreadsheet ranking them.

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[deleted] t1_jay24g7 wrote

Replying to JustUseTheWordMmmkay (#2,161,813)

That's a Thunderbolt 4 cable 🤦🏻‍♂️

Quality Thunderbolt cables are all expensive dude. These are not smartphone cables made for charging and passing family photos, these are workstation cables.

Go look at OWC, CalDigit prices for the same lengths. Hell, Plugable still sells Thunderbolt 3 cables for 60€, and that's a generation old.

You are looking for this: Apple Type-C Cable, £19

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wander9077 t1_jaybjaa wrote

Ok but it will still support cables with the base layer USB-C charging standard at the usual USB C rate the article goes on to say. So if you want to pay more for an even faster apple cable you can, or just go with the likely fast enough USB C standard rate.

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EngineeringNext7237 t1_jaypq9d wrote

Oh no. I’ll have to pay like $6 more for a cable to do ultra fast charging. Oh wait you already have to do that with most usbc cables for any sort of good PD numbers.

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TheCh0rt t1_jayq2uz wrote

Replying to crimsonblueku (#2,159,762)

No, however if they gimp the general high quality USBC cable in favor of their cables, it’s obvious it’s gimped because iPhone power draw really isn’t that great against a 100w standard.

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lmea14 t1_jaz30x0 wrote

“Checkmate, bureaucrats!”

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JustUseTheWordMmmkay t1_jazlxl3 wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,161,948)

Yeah I know all of that. I know they are expensive, I know they aren’t for most users, I know thunderbolt 3 cables are still expensive and not needed for most people.

But… like I said, Apple sell £100+ cables and I’m wondering if cables like that will be restricted to slower charging.

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Skeptic_Sinner t1_jazlxpg wrote

Replying to Comfortable0wn (#2,162,868)

You cannot fast charge from something that is physically incapable of handling fast charging. The problem with apple is that other brands' cables can handle it but are apple isn't allowing them to work properly

How do you think this is a gotcha holy shit

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speculatrix t1_jazp1ju wrote

Replying to chewb (#2,161,438)

Once, there was no standard at all for high speed charging. These phones proved it was possible and that people would pay for it.

Apple are taking an existing well-established standard and making a proprietary version specifically so they can screw their customers by having expensive charging cables.

See the difference?

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[deleted] t1_jazwosu wrote

Replying to adamcoe (#2,164,001)

Says the guy who can only speak English and some middle school-level Spanish.

Wanna switch the conversation to Italian? French? Portuguese? I can do that, I don't know about you though...

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VTPeWPeW247 t1_jb01l9b wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,164,369)

I can speak multiple languages and I hate IPhones. BOOM! Seriously though, if you’re gonna chastise someone for judging people on there phone choice, don’t judge them for something else with your next breath, capiche?

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chewb t1_jb06s95 wrote

Replying to speculatrix (#2,164,170)

iphones can charge with the usb-c standard up to 30W today, they use the PD standard of USB-c

These companies didn't use PD, they are using the usb-c cable and standard but not the USB Power Delivery standard. This might or might not be copied by apple.

My comment brought attention to the fact that if it's a feature present on just one model android phone, apple is copying them but if it's a bad feature, it's not copying android, just a few bad apples, which is a double standard

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iceleel t1_jb0k70i wrote

How else are they gonna sell chargers they removed from box?

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656666_ t1_jb0wjae wrote

Replying to yuxulu (#2,164,189)

The article is just a guess and would be just the case for the iPhone 15. we don’t know yet what specs it might have. You can just assume that it will be still just 20w.

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petepro t1_jb3728j wrote

This is karma farming at this point, this is the third post of the same rumor.

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Curious-Collar-5052 t1_jb90zvg wrote

That sounds concerning. I hope that Apple finds a way to make sure fast charging capability remains possible across third-party cables.

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it_administrator01 t1_jba2gjv wrote

So just like how my 2020 iPad Pro sometimes wont recognise my $20 Anker USB C cable until I reboot the iPad and the Apple store effectively told me to go fuck myself using slightly kinder words?

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TheSporkBomber t1_jbf1t7h wrote

Replying to crimsonblueku (#2,186,065)

>Do you think a $10 USB C cable from Amazon could fast charge any phone or offer TB3 speeds?

Then:

>But they don’t do high speed data and fast charging.

Ah, so it's high speed AND charging now. Moving goal posts?

My S22U does super fast charging just fine on the cheap anker cables. Super fast charging is 25W; the better test is that I use them for my laptops which are 65W minimum. 3.2 Gen 2 cables are around $15 and can get 10gpbs which is both high power and high speed data. The state of the industry has gotten much better than it was a few years ago.

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