Submitted by flores_amarillas t3_116j63g in headphones
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flores_amarillas OP t1_j96pwwr wrote
as i said, just a newbie! dankpods inspired me to get some headphones, the firsts ones i got were the kz’s and the last ones the last ones the airpods, they are my favorites at the te time tho i like the akg to use logic, they are all pretty good built,
would you recommend me to get any other headphone? thanks!!
SupOrSalad t1_j96v458 wrote
If you want to try something else (that's budget but sounds good), try the Koss KSC75, or 7hz Salnotes zero
leonardonfelix t1_j96wqsq wrote
Try some open headphone something like akg k701/702/712 or sennheiser 600’s series
Titouan_Charles t1_j970thd wrote
As a man of many hobbies, the best advice I can give you is not to spread yourself thin by buying multiple cheap/mid-range products, but to research extensively and buy a single good to high end product, and if it doesn't suit you just sell or trade it for something similar. It's the best user experience in my, well, experience
andysaurus_rex t1_j9729mz wrote
I would recommend not spreading yourself thin on multiple mid/low-fi headphones and rather saving up for a single hifi headphone.
You have 4 headphones right there and realistically the airpods are going to get the most use. Could have just bought those and saved your money for something nicer.
HalfwaySilly t1_j972uil wrote
Completely agree with this
Titouan_Charles t1_j973ahy wrote
I know it can seem comforting to buy the things you see people buy online, but that's just a way to never ever get to listen to any good product, and you just play the consumerist game instead of getting a nice experience out of a market. Just my 2c
aless530 t1_j973tjn wrote
Wait, when did DankPods cover the hd 200 pro? Must have missed that video. But otherwise, I dont want to sound mean, as since you're just starting; but I would toally rec returning some of these and investing in something like a 560s or 58x which sound so much better than anything here for $150
ducky92fr t1_j976yye wrote
oopsidiedmybad t1_j978ms9 wrote
I think you should've just got good $400 headphones instead lol
Justin_VY t1_j97c0p9 wrote
Bro
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Nosapaw t1_j97e2c9 wrote
You know something is not right when the best equipment there is the AirPods, and by a lot
717x t1_j97eiw3 wrote
Give all back except the AirPods and get a pair of E-MU teaks
Choosen_Weeb_Boy t1_j97fxme wrote
You forgot the Anime IEM, you heretic
HughMongusMikeOxlong t1_j97h9s5 wrote
Keep the KZ's, return the rest and get a good pair of used overears.
I just got new hd 660s for 240 Canadian yesterday
K_T_Oxy t1_j97i3rs wrote
I've got to agree with some of the other comments here. If you can, return the over ears and grab some HD58x or DT990s. If you can afford it then probably HD6xx?
DanimalForming t1_j97ic3s wrote
Where did you find that deal?
flores_amarillas OP t1_j97jmg3 wrote
i bought the both over ears for like, 80 bucks
Tanachip t1_j97kfbp wrote
Many_Impress1337 t1_j97lkum wrote
Sincerely, all of that, not nice for the price, It is not bad audio quality, you just overpayed It.
Pauoolk t1_j97lo42 wrote
Not sure why you would buy two different closed back headphones and some IEM though ? Just buy a very good one instead haha (or get a good open back (and maybe some EQ app for the computer if needed for the bass), when you try it, you never get back to closed backs haha. The AirPods are real useful for city use though !
Pkdan2 t1_j97m9xh wrote
660s are on sale on Amazon for US$290 right now. Price might come down more with the S2s releasing Tuesday.
TECHNICKER_Cz3 t1_j97mnr8 wrote
the over ears are a miss. also don't understand why you need wired IEMs and airpods, are you a musician perhaps?
Akella333 t1_j97mv3o wrote
I think you can safely return or throw away the KZ if you have the Airpods lol, their tuning is atrocious
okaycomputes t1_j97mzsq wrote
You are returning 3 of them, right?
TECHNICKER_Cz3 t1_j97n1s3 wrote
I cannot reccomend the HD560S enough. staging may not be nearly as wide as the K702, but the tonality is imo unmatched in that price range (if we're talking open-back)
flores_amarillas OP t1_j97netr wrote
flores_amarillas OP t1_j97nlr0 wrote
i did not over paid it ( i think) it was like 100 bucks without the airpods
Many_Impress1337 t1_j97ntt9 wrote
Oh, nice deal then!! You are well served.
TECHNICKER_Cz3 t1_j97o4d2 wrote
alright, that clears things quite a bit. anyway, as many have said in this thread, I'd reccommend getting rid of both the over ear phones and getting some decent midrange cans. for example Senn. HD560S (open) or AKG K371 (closed). Hope it helps, cheers
TANKR_79 t1_j97o7xx wrote
The ZSN pro X is a great, inexpensive IEM to start off with. But I'm a little confused with your other choices. Why two separate pairs of overears and why 4 separate devices at once?
You could have purchased a higher end headphone that blew the two (sennheiser and akg) away.
Though I personally would buy airpods pros(or any apple product) I understand that you might want noise cancellation. In that case why even bother with the IEMs?
Ultimately it's your money and I have no right to say what you should and shouldn't do with it.
Edit: OP might be a musician....
flores_amarillas OP t1_j97oluf wrote
yes i am a musician!
the airpods are a upgrade of the kz, the akg are a upgrade of the senn, no worries, everything was less than 100 bucks (without the airpods obviously)
flores_amarillas OP t1_j97p69c wrote
just to be clear!!
yes i am a musician!
the airpods are a upgrade of the kz, the akg are a upgrade of the senn, no worries, everything was less than 100 bucks (without the airpods obviously)
economy is pretty hard here in chile so im not really able to spend that much money on headphones (400 bucks like someone said) the airpods are a little love to myself
TANKR_79 t1_j97pwwk wrote
Understandable.
I don't know how long you've had the KZ but just know that the silver cable is gonna look nasty after a while. There is a cable on Linsoul Audio that's black and can even change termination iirc. So you could switch to and from 3.5mm and 6.3mm jacks.
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Pinzu t1_j97r400 wrote
Shouldve just bought a great pair of headphones for that money
mamadMATT t1_j97r4mb wrote
even if someone can't afford an expensive headphone anyone can go with dt770 - 880 - 990 pro or for even less the Samson's and have enough money to buy a dac'n amp for it. k72 that op got I don't own them but I see a lot of people everywhere saying these sound terrible the k model in general.
Imaginary_Tadpole110 t1_j97s3vy wrote
But those works better with an Amp, don't they?
hatlad43 t1_j97sox3 wrote
No, he only ever mentioned (tested?) the HD 206 (which he hates), HD 280 Pro, HD 58X, and HD 600. Either OP forgot it's supposed to be the 280 or just went on his way.
Yeah, should just sell the 3 that isn't the AirPods Pro and get the HD 58X instead.
DCharlo t1_j97t1ca wrote
replace sennheiser and akg with dt 770 pro 80 ohm
replace kz and airpods with something like 7hz timeless or moondrop blessing 2
if you really want the airpods, for the price of the kz zns pro, you could have gotten truthear hola, moondrop chu or 7hz zero, all better options imo
not a bad haul, but wasted potential
oopsidiedmybad t1_j97t5ul wrote
I meant he should have saved the money he already spent and used that
CammyFi t1_j97tpup wrote
If you want the truth, the Airpods Pro is the best sounding thing there and the K72 being the worst
CammyFi t1_j97u2e9 wrote
ZSN Pro X is mediocre smh
CammyFi t1_j97u70y wrote
The AKGs are a downgrade from dollar store headphones
CammyFi t1_j97u9m4 wrote
Coler484 t1_j97v6rx wrote
Return everything but airpods, use the money to go towards dt990s or 1990s or hd600s. You have some good starters, but you'll quickly get tired and work your way to these. Personally have 1990s and love them, but we're all subjective to sound so you need to find what you like.
610158305 t1_j97vjss wrote
IDK about the AKG's & the Senny's but I'll swap the KZ with the Linsoul 7HZ Salnotes or CrinxTruthear Zero, the airpods are not my favourite, but nothing beats the practicality of Bluetooth, anyways, hope you enjoy your purchase
Nosapaw t1_j97wbpo wrote
Huh? It at least made a bit of sense if the senn were an upgrade from the AKG, but not the opposite, the K52/72/92 line is an actual dumpster fire.
>worries, everything was less than 100 bucks
Still respect your choices if you're happy with the equipment, but, even those "400 bucks" comments aside, the headphones you bought are all considered mediocre at best in their own price ranges, with those $100 you could've gotten some creative aurvana live and some ksc75 / kph30i, along with the kz (keeping the kz since a lot of people start with those bc dankpods, and maybe you bought them before the big sub $20 Iem improvements that came after the moondrop chu)
But yeah, i would honestly just return the k72 if it's not too late
Tanachip t1_j97x8so wrote
Probably should’ve asked the sub before buying… but if you think they sound good then that’s all that matters. If you could do it all over, all you really need is Senny HD560s and the AirPod Pro 2.
peterparker9894 t1_j97yjlp wrote
Never buy kz most if not all of their iem's are bad
GregTheTwurkey t1_j980t7a wrote
Send everything back except for the AirPods Pro 2, nothing wrong with the rest of the bunch, you just happen to have a pair of true wireless buds that are both very good for portable use and sound quality. I believe they sound better than the other headphones too, and is in the same league as IEM’s costing up to $150.
Sell the rest and get a good mid tier headphone instead, like the sundara or edition XS open box
TANKR_79 t1_j98141y wrote
Can you make a better IEM for the same price? Or are you going to buy people new gear?
No, the ZSN Pro X isn't great when compared to other IEMs. Even I want to upgrade to a Moondrop Aria.
But my point was that it is good for its price point and will satisfy the vast majority of users, at least for a while until they decide that they want to upgrade. Which, some people don't as they feel content with it.
Don't put down other people's gear just because you were blessed with the fortune to be able to spend large amounts of money on yours.
willpaudio t1_j981mga wrote
I’m so freakin impressed with my AirPods. I was into IEMs a decade or so ago and man the sound you can get out of consumer audio now is mind boggling.
dadu1234 t1_j982gav wrote
terrible
BedRevolutionary4418 t1_j982w5o wrote
Nailed it! Just save up for the Sennheiser HD 660s2 or HD 800s
CammyFi t1_j984liq wrote
Tangzu Wan'er, Tanchjim Zero, Salnotes Zero, Truthear Hola, but yeah, you definitely have to spend a lot...😆
szymonhimself t1_j985nnd wrote
Don't listen to the assholes in the comments. Enjoy the stuff you got. Try for yourself, if you like them, then fantastic! If you don't, you can sell them and buy something else.
I haven't tried the other two, but I love my AirPods Pro, they sound amazing. I also loved my ZSN Pro X at the time I got them, they were my first pair of IEMs so I have some nostalgia for them. Good score mate!
fuazo t1_j986p1s wrote
the best one i see in this photo right now is the air pod....
GratefulPhishWeener t1_j987wui wrote
Did you just grow ears this week?! I mean I have pour money management skills too but sheesh!
R4K45H1 t1_j989ebo wrote
I would honestly just buy one good pair of headphones that has the value of those 4 combined. But I think it depends on a use case scenario. I figure the airpods would just be for convenience
BaneQ105 t1_j989xqv wrote
You’re gonna call akgs bad? I know build quality is terrible but I’m using 371bt for like 3rd week of intensive usage without charging or connecting via cable. I needed to exchange one pair coz it broke but overall they’re ok. And they stayed for a few months longer than my Beats Flex I bought just to keep any wireless buds in my pocket (they seemed well suited coz they work long without need to recharge but don’t have charging cube. Plus all the weight lays on neck).
BlackMoth27 t1_j98afny wrote
everything there seems like weird choices.
Nosapaw t1_j98aljf wrote
Yeah, not all AKGs are the same, i also have a pair of k371s (wired ones tho) and they're pretty good, i like them a lot (even their build quality, haven't had problems) but the k52/72/92 are probably among the worst "known brand" over ear headphones.
BaneQ105 t1_j98bcn7 wrote
Yep. They’re basically old open backs converted into cheap closed backs, right? I kinda think about buying modern k240 and iPod to have something slightly better than phone and wireless and something more mobile than pc and wired headphones. But that’s rather in long term. Akg 361/371BT are more prone to bend/break band due to battery and microphone stuck into it. There’s extreme horizontal force on it and only slight peace of metal keeping it in shape. If not the band I would rank them extremely high especially considering audio quality for the price.
flores_amarillas OP t1_j98bj4x wrote
thx man <3
josher814 t1_j98bmgl wrote
Bro, you should’ve just bought Moondrop variations and an apple dongle.
RecyclableFetus t1_j98fsdg wrote
I can understand spreading for different experiences like having a bt iem/tws for hand and wire free listening during work outs, open back for daily listening, closed back for late at night and you have people you don’t want to wake up, etc.
But these specifically? Id return the ones besides the AirPods. As much as I dont care to spend the money on them they do bring some decent things to the table. The other 3 however Id return for one decent headphone.
gonomon t1_j98hmqs wrote
Instead of all of those you only needed a kph30i and a Behringer uca202 (or apple dongle). If you want Bluetooth, you can keep AirPods and you will be as happy as you can be at this price range.
Suspicious_Life_6846 t1_j98i0sy wrote
When you do your research on bing 💀
Mean_Ad_5339 t1_j98im13 wrote
airpods are better than the other headphones here?o
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Electrical-Monitor27 t1_j98l3uw wrote
Hd600 is objectively better though in terms of tonality
Nosapaw t1_j98ln44 wrote
Yes, i would say so.
The k72 are just a failure.
Hd200 pro are one of those weird Sennheiser closed backs, resembles aspects of the early momentums/hd400s and crappy entry level "studio" closed backs, so pretty lacking pinna gain, honky midrange, big phase cancellation dip at ~4khz, dip in the lower midrange, not much upper treble and a big, muddy bass.
Not the worst thing ever, but still at the very bottom of Sennheiser's releases.
Zsn pro x are just your standard chifi iem, bloated, not very dampened, and the zsn line in particular is really treble heavy and harsh.
The AirPods pro are the only ones in here that actually have some semblance of "balanced" sound.
Mean_Ad_5339 t1_j98m3bp wrote
whats a good first pair to buy? reason im interested is bc i was in the market to buy a gaming headset and was told the hyper x cloud was made to sort of copy the beyerdynamic headphones. music on the hyoer x headset sounds great so now im intrigued as to the possibilities with real headphones
RChamy t1_j98mkdw wrote
HD 560s hands down for less than 200$. Maybe the HD 599 if you have an story of hating treble
RChamy t1_j98mlv3 wrote
Some may prefer the trap IEM
Egoexpo t1_j98mquh wrote
The airpods is nice, but maybe you can buy the 7Hz Crinacle Zero or Truthear Hola if you want a wired IEM. About the over-ear, the M50x is a great closed-back (it's not perfect, but the build quality is acceptable, and you can do some EQ on it), and the HD560s or Hifiman Ananda it's a good point to go if you want some open-backs.
a1200i t1_j98n3qo wrote
Are these new? Return them and buy a single thing but better
Nosapaw t1_j98ncxj wrote
Yeah, the hyperX are honestly on the better side of gaming headphones, not bad.
If you want to upgrade, there's things to have in mind, some sound preferences, and just keeping in mind that "real" headphones could not impress you or blow you away, specially at first listen.
That being said, if you're after neutral sound, and open backs, the hd560s/6xx is among the safest recommendation to give you a glimpse of all the good stuff associated with more "serious" headphones.
But it's always better if you have an audio store to try stuff out, or at least be sure you can return your purchases.
I would recommend that I'd you have more questions or want more advice, make a post in r/headphoneadvice instead on crowding the comments in a post lol
Dust-by-Monday t1_j98nui4 wrote
Where’s the CCA CRA, and the HD 560?
Youngnathan2011 t1_j98oci8 wrote
It's garbage even in its own price point
Owenwijaya89 t1_j98pb0m wrote
this man is a menace 💀💀💀
Karateca2000 t1_j98rnpi wrote
I came here to write the same, but not as beautifully as you did.
leonardonfelix t1_j98scgf wrote
A great option!
leonardonfelix t1_j98spxl wrote
Yes, those need more power, but have some dongle's that drive it very well.
pkelly500 t1_j98vtmt wrote
If you're a newb, why are you buying four headphones at once? You'll never know what kind of sound signature you prefer when you're bouncing four headphones with different sonic qualities on and off your head.
Start with one. See if it fits what you seek. If not, sell or return it and move to another. Once you've found your preferred signature, then it's time to branch out with a second or third pair with different sonic qualities that may suit different types of music better.
Start in the shallow end, dude. You'll be frustrated -- and maybe broke -- by starting off the high dive.
And yeah, this may sound dickish, but ... you can do better for the money than those four cans you selected. Considerably better.
Let us know what kind of music you like. Let us know what kind of sound you prefer? Lots of bass? Midrange? Airy treble? Want a ton of detail or a relaxed sound? Then we can give you recommendations.
kntdaman t1_j98wb60 wrote
i saw this post and let out a “nahhhhhh” 💀
Owenwijaya89 t1_j98wfms wrote
Milolo2 t1_j98wvse wrote
is providing genuine feedback being an “asshole”? these are just opinions after all, its not like anyones being rash and just hating on these products for the sake of hating. a rhetoric of ‘just enjoy lol’ is terrible when there are objectively wayyy better options for the same price it took to purchase all of these, especially when the consumer is new and un- knowledgeable about the market. its worth it to just do the research or receive feedback, its what drives the market forward and pushes for innovation. i understand that if OP enjoys his purchase, then good for him, but dont try and sugar coat things whilst undermining the importance of feedback and adverse opinions.
Milolo2 t1_j98x3il wrote
worth checking out current market leading iems too. the airpods are not very impressive compared to contemporary $20 iem options, which you might find hard to believe.
Many_Impress1337 t1_j98xnlp wrote
Not bad audio quality.
willpaudio t1_j98xpfq wrote
I would but I just have such little interest. I only use them out and about and I need the quality of life features (transparency mode, noise canceling). If I’m at home I’m in front of my stereo. Just simply stating how impressive second gen AirPod Pros are compared to high end IEMs from 10 years ago or even recent IEMs I’ve heard like the Fiio FD7. Not really my realm anymore.
Choosen_Weeb_Boy t1_j98yqvo wrote
You mean like the "Truthear x Crinacle ZERO In-Ear Monitors Revie"
xXepicpancakesX t1_j99037c wrote
>hd200 pro
oof
>kz zsn pro
old, outdated and mediocre…aka oof
>k72
big oof
>airpods
they aight.
CammyFi t1_j994wnl wrote
Peaky treble could actually be a auditory health risk
Independent_Yam_625 t1_j998mea wrote
Those AKG’s give me terrible flashbacks and remind me how disappointed I was after putting them on. My smile immediately turned into a frown.
TAB_Kg t1_j99abgf wrote
Finally am actual critique
Patient_Tip_6561 t1_j99hl41 wrote
Have to listen to all then decide
GneissCream t1_j99kf03 wrote
Slow down and buy quality over quantity.
Universe171 t1_j99kn1m wrote
What's something better for gaming at that price point?
Caelohm t1_j99mpnj wrote
Welcome to the money well
T3L3SIS t1_j99nz03 wrote
Nice variety, but you could have used the money to get one much better headphone or iem instead. Then again i feel like quantity > quality is a good place to start. This way you find out what sound, etc you like before investing.
MangoAI t1_j99oxbd wrote
Get rid of all of it except the Airpods
agastyaseth t1_j99tfdt wrote
I think you messed up a little here - if you bought these on someone’s recommendation - either the advice was old or they haven’t been in the hobby for a while.
I agree with other comments about it being better to consolidate and buy one good headphone rather than buying multiple cheaper ones.
My 2c - return everything but the APP and get a good Senn open back (HD6X0 or HD560s) and get a different IEM - something like a Hexa is like endgame for most people for $80)
PutPineappleOnPizza t1_j99tydm wrote
I would take the KZ's and send them straight back where they came from lol
Screen-Addict t1_j99u8a6 wrote
Just because some akgs are good doesnt mean that they’re all good, what you have there is some flawed logic my friend
TANKR_79 t1_j99uc3w wrote
Fair enough, but how many of these are as widely available as the KZ? Genuine question.
(And I do not mean just the US or Europe but actually globally)
TANKR_79 t1_j99ue77 wrote
I eq'd them with wavelet and it reduced the peak a fair amount.
BaneQ105 t1_j99uivj wrote
I know. I was mostly joking. I’m aware there are good and bad designs. I pointed out build quality issues and also shown some good sides of akgs. I didn’t know this particular pair was so bad. I’m not that experienced with headphones so I was genuinely surprised and wanted to get more info.
AutobotVu t1_j99v9u0 wrote
I bought the k712 pro for my gaming last month I like it
AutobotVu t1_j99vny8 wrote
For edm bass heavy I use the meze 99 neo and for gaming Cs go I use akg k712 pro but it's kind of pricey 😂
Titouan_Charles t1_j99zk7r wrote
Objective, and tonality in the same sentence ? You okay buddy ?
NaZul15 t1_j99zwwi wrote
What's with the stupid group thought on this sub? A year ago everyone was recommending kz's and now everyone hates them? Make up your damn minds lol
Electrical-Monitor27 t1_j9a08fc wrote
Tonality in terms of how it sounds compared to neutral. Hd600 has a much smaller scoop than 660s2 thus making it closer to 5128 hrtf. The 660s seems to have a much worse timbre on paper too
ThatGuyFromSweden t1_j9a4nv0 wrote
The K72 is hot garbage. I'd return it.
peterparker9894 t1_j9a4xpy wrote
I don't think anyone recommend a kz for quite a while they have been making mediocre products for a long time, the garbage tuning or the fake drivers isn't helping it either
Titouan_Charles t1_j9a5jkn wrote
You're too caught up in graphs my dude, the 600 is way too narrow and mid focused to be considered neutral. 5128 is a better tool, I agree, but it's still far from the best we can do with human ears
CammyFi t1_j9a5tq0 wrote
Wow congrats I too like polishing turds 👏
CammyFi t1_j9a5x0w wrote
Good things come to those who wait
namesdevil3000 t1_j9a746k wrote
I know that you maybe haven’t gotten positive responses. Or people have been snobs here. Please remember that headphones is about listening to and enjoying music. All of these people are suggesting more expensive ones. You got started which is great! Just don’t fall in the money pit like so many others have. If you don’t want to stretch your budget and want more open stuff. You can try the Koss KSC75 (I’ve heard it’s the best for $20), I have the KPH30I’s and I love them. Got them for my family for Christmas and they love them!
If you’re also looking for other content creators to watch, Crinacle is one that I “found” (can’t really use that for famous Crin) after Dankpods.
Enjoy your music and have fun!
KnowThyWeakness t1_j9ac0l5 wrote
I don't like that you bought 4 pairs to start. Rushing in to buy products instead enjoying what you have and easing into upgrades
my2dumbledores t1_j9aeung wrote
HD560s, IE200 w/ springtips and Apple USB-C dongle. Throw in an APP Gen 2 or Buds2 Pro (depending on phone OS).
Create your “it’s not much, but it’s mine” post for a nice little karma boost, then /leave this sub a champion and never look back.
flores_amarillas OP t1_j9agq8d wrote
i did not bought four headphones at once, the first one was like two years ago and the last one like a week ago
Carlisle774 t1_j9ankc6 wrote
After spending more than a thousand dollars on other options, I came to the conclusion that I would have been perfectly happy with my Cloud Alphas. Play around with EQ if you want something new for now, don't spend money for more unless you're sure you want to move on.
Cz_Yu t1_j9argo9 wrote
Everyone knows adding anime character on box art improves sound quality smh
Electrical-Monitor27 t1_j9atuyu wrote
It depends on how much your hrtf differs from 5128 honestly. Measurements on a 43ag do show that hd600 has too much mids compared to 43ag diffuse field but on 5128 diffuse field the hd600 seems to closely match it apart from the 8khz peak that was not visible on the 43ag and the 4.5khz scoop. Meanwhile the 660s2 has some really bad dips. I already eq-ed my 600 to 660s2 and the scoop makes the neutral tonality feel off
pkelly500 t1_j9au01d wrote
Ah, my apologies. I thought you dove in by buying all four at once.
omarccx t1_j9aw2mj wrote
Glad i'm not alone in thinking you should return everything but the Airpods. I recently tried an EQ on my gen 1 Pros and they sound decent enough to not want to bother with my Tin P1 and Penon Vortex. The P1 is married to a quadelix cause it sucks without EQ, and the Penon has to have a cable.
Regular-Mousse7841 t1_j9aw9h6 wrote
Congrtulations on your purchase. For your next upgrades, as a newbie like you say, get on the tried and true trail. I'd say an HD560s would have been a good open back for a start, for a closed back you could have well went with the M40X from ATH, not the best, but for a beginner it's good enough.
Titouan_Charles t1_j9b32hz wrote
My reference is the 800S with a reduced 3400Hz, and another cut @7400 and 9100Hz
Otherwise-Work8709 t1_j9brtg1 wrote
Woof, the folks in this thread are ruthless, please let people enjoy things, ik these aren't the best choices, however y'all are why most people stay away from this hobby.
Youngnathan2011 t1_j9cbjl9 wrote
Even the Salnotes Zero would be better. In my opinion at least. Use them almost every day. Use them over the Aria's I have, partially cause they stay in my ears better. Slept with them too.
RizKeeTV t1_j9cmcoj wrote
Mine works perfectly fine without an amp on phone or pc etc.
YummyBaldy t1_j9gvq7c wrote
You will switch everything in about a month.
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