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PharaoRamsesII OP t1_j9y6v62 wrote

Yesterday a perfume bottle from a shelf decided to "kiss" my little dot. Didn't end well as you can see. Thankfully I have some spare tubes.
Have been using the lil fella for about 2 years almost daily and I love it. Sounds great on my Sennheiser HD560s and Focal Clear OGs.

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[deleted] t1_j9y6xsb wrote

"Glass is glass. And glass breaks"

- Bald guy who destroys phones for a living

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Mungkelel t1_j9y7zw5 wrote

Ich hoffe dem Parfüm hat weh getan

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This-Dragonfruit-668 t1_j9yb3ng wrote

Was waren die spare tubes wohl für eine Marke? Und wo hast du die her? Vielen Dank im Vorraus!

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croakjob t1_j9yfdz2 wrote

I do not understand the tech on this sub at all.. how do the light bulbs increase audio quality? What is this contraption?

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Ogroat t1_j9ygjn9 wrote

It’s an amplifier. The “light bulbs” are vacuum tubes - a mid-century technology that has mostly fallen out of favor except for some audio applications.

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Mundane-Ad7664 t1_j9yhfwv wrote

Great design, put the most fragile parts out of the box,

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mat-2018 t1_j9ym049 wrote

realistically, a modern solid state amplifier will always reproduce sound more faithfully to the original file than a tube amp. people use tube amps because tubes naturally color the sound giving it a more "warm" tone. or that's what audio enjoyers say at least, i've never had the chance to do a blind test in person

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andysaurus_rex t1_j9yocrc wrote

They're basically the same as why some people used to call the TV the "tube". They're vacuum tubes.

Nowadays audio equipment is basically the only use for vacuum tubes and even then they are more of a niche product as most people use "solid state" amplifiers.

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josir1994 t1_j9yotke wrote

Tubes are relatively cheap, I keep some spare just in case and for a different taste when I wish

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PutPineappleOnPizza t1_j9yp0jx wrote

The biggest issue on here is that many people recommend these without ever having tried them or without knowing what they are talking about. From my understanding tube amps, just like solid state amps, can be very different from each other, from super clean to very warm sounding, depending on the circuitry or the way the tubes operate.

My Xduoo TA-26 is absolutely on the same level, if not better than my FiiO K5 pro and both sound very clean (I've also rolled a ton of tubes). The only difference could be a tad more bass and more midrange presence on tubes, but this is so minimal and also genre dependant that it's almost negligible.

I'm almost 100% sure that I could blindly make out a littledot from the TA-26 because it's supposedly smoother and less detailed, but I am not sure if I could spot a TA-26 in a blind test against a few solid state amps in a similiar price range.

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Doc-85 t1_j9yraqj wrote

"You can't feel pain through a photo."

Yeah. Right.

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WEASELexe t1_j9ytyvf wrote

I have a schiit vali. Do y'all have any tube recommendations? I've only used the default one it comes with so far.

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PutPineappleOnPizza t1_j9yudxs wrote

Welcome to tube amps lmao.. I too can almost not tell the difference. But it glows, feels and looks nice.

But it was quite a tough pill to swallow once I realized that I feel for audiophile overexaggeration.

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tofuchrispy t1_j9yx57b wrote

Adding a new taste to the sound profile

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Grimspoon t1_j9yx8c9 wrote

Wtf you storing perfume near your audio equipment? You got a listening station setup in your washroom?

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PutPineappleOnPizza t1_j9yxt1d wrote

Oh my.. guess you need to have golden ears to hear these differences.

I love my Xduoo TA-26, but it also taught me the lesson that many reviewers are full of shit. Being completely honest, to me the difference is neither good or bad, but it's very slim, like 5-10% different in comparison to the FiiO at best (using the FiiO's DAC on both devices).

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xumixu t1_j9yymom wrote

So this is why they put tubes in jail

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mat-2018 t1_j9yzogk wrote

yes, which is why i clearly stated that i never heard it so i can't say whether a tube amp sounds "better" (which is subjective anyways). i do think it's important to tell people that tubes aren't magic, they can't improve the original track, just modifiy the tonality a bit.

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FlynnsAvatar t1_j9zhb6o wrote

Rolling tubes is more dangerous than I thought.

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InsanelyHandsomeQB t1_j9zj3e4 wrote

Honestly, it’s not that big of a difference. Like yeah, in a critical listening session I can tell but these days I just want to enjoy my music. After listening to a few songs I forget what hardware I’m plugged into anyway.

Tubes are cool for the novelty factor, but these days my headphones stay plugged into my solid state 99% of the time, mainly for the heat and power. You can also add the harmonics in software to simulate the warmth of tube amps, so there’s that.

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XavinNydek t1_j9zqjlw wrote

In this day and age most of the draw of using tube stuff is how it looks, not how it sounds. That's why basically all new tube stuff has them up front right in the open. Back when people used tubes because they had to they were almost always hidden inside, since the glow was an unwanted side effect.

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PharaoRamsesII OP t1_j9zrx6l wrote

Well the big difference was that the devices were large and therefore had lots of air around the tubes. In very small devices that doesnt work. And i am 99,9% sure that safety regulations were a bit looser back then. Bur yes you are right that most likely nothing will catch on fire. Although i wouldnt be sure with plastic foils or paper.

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Jontun189 t1_j9zx6tn wrote

Not necessarily even good; 'different' I'd say. I never did vibe much with my Bottlehead Crack + Sennheiser 6XX which are almost universally lauded among those who have tried the combo as being a pairing bestowed upon the audiophile community by God himself (of course I'm exaggerating but really, they came highly recommended).

I much prefer the sound of solid state, but undeniably there is a difference between the two; not bad, not necessarily good, just not to my taste. Weirdly though I can totally understand why people like the pairing.

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theamazinggoop t1_ja06dih wrote

This makes me sad. I have a Little Dot MKIII that I've loved for over a decade and had a similar experience white moving. Took the tubes out, packaged them separately, but something fell and crushed them during the move. Started tube rolling after that though... And while there may not be huge differences between a lot of the tubes I bought, at least I have backups now

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PharaoRamsesII OP t1_ja0br2k wrote

We have a cat, but she is unbelievable well trained to not jump anywhere except the windows where we let her out. I dont think I have ever seen her on a table. Long story short.. I destroyed it myself by dropping something on it

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GeckoDeLimon t1_ja0le9y wrote

A very different thing in a guitar amp. There, the preamp tubes, power tubes, power supply and speaker are all an extension of the electric guitar, much in the same way a bell mute does to a brass instrument.

If our goal in playback is pure reproduction of the recorded signal with as little distortion of that signal as possible (either linear or non-linear), then solid state is where it's at. The likes of Sansui & Yamaha had that pretty much sealed by the early 80s.

If you like the look and/or sound of tubes, that's perfectly fine. They do look hella cool and that can be enough, but we ought not kid ourselves that a tube playback stage is a step toward greater accuracy. Very, very, few are.

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SarcasticOptimist t1_ja0r191 wrote

Definitely. It's why my setup is solid state and largely clinical (and tbh most of the time I'm using studio monitors).

But if you want warmth rather than analytical you don't mind certain kinds of distortion being added.

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pocketstoosumo t1_ja0ve35 wrote

this is a sign to buy something good instead

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coffeeshopslut t1_ja139fx wrote

Lots of people also think they're listening to tube amps when it's just a tube input stage and a solid state output.

Also different tube topologies sound drastically different. Output transformer amps sound different from output transformer less. Cheap output transformers sound way different than expensive ones (and they get pricey...)

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LeEasy t1_ja154dn wrote

Vali is a toy level fake tube amp with tube there just for the show. Op amp inside is doing 99.9999% of the work, thus the solid state sound. Don’t waste your money buying tube for Vali.

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fishbowlfx t1_ja1j182 wrote

It's a sign maybe to start rolling! Enjoy the path.

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KingOfTheP4s t1_ja1sl8f wrote

One of my greatest fears, I have some very good tubes in my little dot

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iNaurto04 t1_ja1sqk6 wrote

does this count as r/ThatLookedExpensive

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PharaoRamsesII OP t1_ja2b0cu wrote

This is the little dot mk2
There is much newer versions by now and i tried to get my hand on a Shiit Heresy, but the price spikes and non-availability (especially here in Europe) made me steer away. I am still very happy with the amplifier and will continue using it

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Kawai_Oppai t1_ja2d31k wrote

But I would expect the restaurant to have provided a good ambiance that I don’t need to alter and change to enjoy.

When my food is plated and brought out I expect it to be good and ready to eat. I shouldn’t need to call the waiter over and re-season the meal or get different condiments or anything like that.

And a tube amp is exactly that. The artist has created sound and ‘perfected it’ to their vision and then people distort this sound through an imperfect amplification process.

Solid state plays back that experience the artist created.

Then if I’m being really honest on the subject, a tube amp isn’t necessary at all with a good DAC with different filter options. Sharp, slow, nos etc type of playback.

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thms0 t1_ja31tha wrote

>Solid state plays back that experience the artist created.

The sound engineer created.
And sometimes they don't even think about it and use low tier recording material. Or have bad engineers.

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Jontun189 t1_ja32r3s wrote

Made it stock crack first, stuck with that for a while and then did the speedball upgrade after. IMO the speedball upgrade strips all of what I like about the 6XX away and makes it pretty clinical. Cool if that's what people are into but I'd rather buy specific headphones for that application.

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Silver-Ad8136 t1_ja3rusu wrote

I guess I see it more as...you went over to Guga's and he made you one of his A5s, and you whip out a bottle of HP sauce. So, sure...it's "wrong" but it's also pretty delicious.

I'd also note, you hear partially with your eyes and 100% with your mind, so if glowing tubes and a VU meter and more boxes and cables, that hot, static smell...appeal, no you can't get that with software.

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dIAb0LiK99 t1_ja53xxf wrote

Man that sucks. You have to wait for the new tubes to be run in before it will sound good again

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PharaoRamsesII OP t1_ja5qorv wrote

I have the Schiit Modi 3 DAC in front of the little dot and i would most definitely get the hereesy if I could get it for a fair price. Its also much less of a hassle. But i still love the tube vibes. I am not a believer in snake oil and i quite honestly dont hear a difference with the tube amp. I just like it visually.

There was onl one thing that scared me away from Schiit amplifiers. I read i some reviews that some Heresy amps suddenly got really loud for a moment and destroyed peoples headphones. There was also lots of those people saying that Schiit didnt pay their damaged headphones You might wanna investigate that before going with their amps. I wouldnt wanna destroy expensive headphones.

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MM1ck t1_ja82oqt wrote

Got to admit, for technology that's 100 or so years old it still looks amazing.

A little nostalgic for me though, as I remember my granddad putting on the "gram" and it not working right and him saying "got to roll them damn valves again"
Then going in to the back of the cabinet amongst the orange glow rolling them around in circles. The gram sprung back into life, like magic.
I was only 6 or 7 at the time and now 50 years later I still use them today ☺️

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