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blargh4 t1_je8zxh8 wrote

sure looks like it.

Crin updated his graph tool thing with a measurement of project red with a 75ohm impedance adapter, causing a big subbass boost, which suggests to me its a similar dual driver configuration as the Zero, where you’d get the same effect.

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DesTiny_- t1_je91ydm wrote

Wonder if drivers are any different, otherwise it will be an upset I guess.

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Zaxer_ITA t1_je96hof wrote

Just received my truthear zero yesterday....

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maisaku18 t1_je9875b wrote

I hope it's an improvement over Truthear Zero in terms of technical ability at somewhat the same price range.

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ViniRustAlves t1_je9djjk wrote

Will the nozzle be normal sized or is it using the same ear raping wide bore as the Zero's?

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aram_mco t1_je9he6a wrote

this style is kinda boring these days

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blorg t1_je9hzd0 wrote

Wow a Sony collab, he's really moving up in the world

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Digitek50 t1_je9lv4f wrote

Sharur gonna be all over this lmao.

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CityQuokka t1_je9mpuf wrote

Anyone have an idea what price bracket these would fall under?

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archetype4 t1_je9ngcb wrote

I bet it comes in either two variations, where the only difference is the existence of an impedance adapter in the housing, or it has a version where there's a switch on the shell to either use or bypass the impedance adapter circuit in order to provide a bass boost when you want it. All three would be neat, two cheaper options that's one of the two tunings each, and a pro version with the switch.

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boddhum t1_je9p0l3 wrote

Is that the legendary most uncomfortable 64audio aka OG CCA aka OG KZ aka Subtonic aka symphonium audio shells?

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Paulex57 t1_je9p5xj wrote

I can already see Sharur's video title

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ViniRustAlves t1_je9ql2x wrote

That's unfortunate because I really liked the Zero's tuning more than the Moondrop Aria's, but it was unbearable to use those IEMs... It took weeks for my ears to unstretch and I get back my perfect seal with my CP100s

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kommanditbolag t1_je9zb5h wrote

I see it will be too large for my ear.

I'm leaving that train.

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sorijealut t1_jea4ndu wrote

Why does it have to be this shell though? Not a fan of the size.

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Zaxer_ITA t1_jeaj9bs wrote

I need some some time to properly evaluate it, first impressions are mostly positive tho.

My rotation consists mostly of the Fiio x Crinacle Eclipse and etymotics er3xr, I like bass on my Iems and need good isolation for commuting.

The zero is competitive with the eclipse, but I find it kinda inferior (but for it's price, 42€ on sale, it's already a great achievement) , the eclipse is a bass heaven, but the presentation of the zero seems more punchy and the rest of the spectrum seems less covered (need to do some more a/b testing, at the moment I'm listening mostly to Periphery V and Vildhjarta, so it's on the heavier side)

Need to do some more tip rolling as the stock ones don't fit me so well, I tried the spinfit cp155 I use on the blessing 2s and they are the best so far, as long as you get a proper seal.

Maybe I'll write a short review in a while, but at the moment if you're looking for a bassy yet still well rounded iem and you don't mind the size (it's comparable to the blessing) I would vouch for it.

If you have any more questions don't hesitate to ask.

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Jeyes_Elite t1_jeauby7 wrote

So many dry aged steak posts lately I straight up thought this was dinner at first glance

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zaq9339 t1_jeaunvx wrote

Troll might be his style but if you ignore the spicy takes and hyperboles, he's actually science based. At the end of the day, can't fault the man for demanding objectivist perfection. And he can support his arguments too. Might wanna check out his latest video.

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zaq9339 t1_jeb068v wrote

Any news from the man himself as to when these beauties drop? Any word from anyone at all?

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Zaxer_ITA t1_jeb1trs wrote

Being the impulsive irresponsible little kid I am, I've ordered the hexa as well, but the zero came from Amazon immediately, the hexa still needs to be shipped by shenzen audio....

Until I have the chance to try them both I give any recommendations

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dumbestsmartest t1_jebb5cd wrote

I thought all he did was agree to a branding deal if they made them conform to the Harman curve? Did I misunderstand what he said in that video?

I'm not a fanboy so if he claimed to do more than that then he's got to substantiate that.

Doesn't invalidate any of his data for headphones or IEMs and that's all I use him for. Just another source to collate.

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AnimeAlt44 t1_jebi2b2 wrote

Not OP but I like mine. It sounds low res and the bass is shockingly hollow given what the FR looks like but the build is superb, it looks snazzy, is lightweight, has a nozzle with a dust filter, and a comfy cable.

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rudbear t1_jebszts wrote

What if it's just A Truthear Zero tuned to IEF instead of Harman in-ear?

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Coalbus t1_jecmdem wrote

I become even more confused about Sharur every time he’s mentioned here.

You have one person saying he’s a troll: Downvoted

You have another person defending him: Also Downvoted

I don’t know what to think 😂

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zaq9339 t1_jecsj9d wrote

He is not to be mentioned here. He is considered a 'subversive element' acting to the detriment of the sacred hobby of audiophilia 😆

Make no mistake, I'm no fan of his delivery, I called him out on this once or twice myself. But apart from being unlikable to the general public (and the business side of things) I imagine he doesn't have many fans here for the same reasons a lot of people prefer r/headphones, Head-Fi or their favorite nonscientific youtubers over ASR. Science and snake oil don't go well together. Kinda takes the magical element out of what is for the most part a wild goose chase.

Flame away 🔥

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zaq9339 t1_jed7ff7 wrote

That's the edgy way of delivering the objectivist line 'this measures well/bad therefore hi/lo-fi'. He is an edgelord but he knows a thing or to. If anything people should get mad not at what he says but how he says it. You can really try his latest video. I think it's an honest effort.

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MoonWun_ t1_jedkvla wrote

Can see that it’s the same shell shape as the zeros. Big fan of the at the zeros sounded, just didn’t fit me properly, but that’s my own ears. Only IEM I’ve been able to comfortably use is the IE300

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ThelceWarrior t1_jee1rck wrote

There is no real way for acustic engineers to "improve technical performance" besides making changes to the drivers, the IEM shell itself or using different meshes and these will directly affect the FR too.

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ThelceWarrior t1_jee25uq wrote

Yeah but what changes do you actually expect? Again what I meant is making changes so that it affects the frequency response, there isn't actually a magic button they can press that "improves technicalities" really.

Knowing audiophiles one way to do so would be to increase the price of the IEM.

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DesTiny_- t1_jee2fde wrote

I expect a better drivers, that's it. I understand that they will affect cost so I don't expect them to make a 50$ monarc mk 2 level of technical performance but Zeros DD's can definitely be replaced with better ones(like the ones which olina is using) and it will affect technical performance in a good way.

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DesTiny_- t1_jee3zn7 wrote

I understand that u have to tune different drivers differently to match Ur target FR graph and my point still remains since nothing can stop truthear from adjusting shell and nozzles and crinacle to tune different drivers to his new target, my point about driver upgrade still remains since as I said Zero with different FR response is a side grade and only a driver upgrade with good tuning can make me want to buy project red.

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DesTiny_- t1_jee4w4f wrote

Yes I agree but the difference won't be that significant ( at least in my eyes), especially considering how zero is already a pretty much tuned excellent. On the other hand a different (better) driver with a good engineering work (including tuning) can give much noticeable boost in technical abilities. Tuning is not everything, otherwise 1k sets would make zero sense since u could basically tune a 20$ single DD iem good enough to make a 90% performance of that higher end iem.

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