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mikevago OP t1_jdyqni8 wrote

This was an exchange I just had online with whoever runs the "Hudson County Chronicles", a "news" outlet that largely exists to spout pro-Fireman propaganda in favor of turning Liberty State Park over to developers. And out of the blue, whoevers' behind the account made this comment about Sam Pesin (who no one had mentioned) which is way, way over the line.

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FelixTaran t1_jdyrgaf wrote

That “news” outlet has 56 followers on Twitter and also is unhinged.

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blizzWorldwide t1_jdyxh1s wrote

Who is Sam Pesin? Genuinely curious. New to the area and love liberty state park. They better keep it the way it is

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Ainsel72l t1_jdyyf37 wrote

Replying to blizzWorldwide (#2,410,142)

Sam Pesin is the som of Morris Pesin, who is known as the founder of the park. Sam has been fighting rather valiantly for probably 30 years to keep corporate interests from taking over the park. It never seems to end. The first thing I personally remember was back when Bret Schundler was mayor and someone tried to put a waterpark in there. Then they wanted to race NASCAR or something similar through the park and parts of Jersey City. There is more, but it just never ends.

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kittyglitther t1_jdzhghf wrote

A "raven" looney? Top tier English language skills right there. They don't make writers like this anymore.

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nuncio_populi t1_jdzi2qm wrote

Replying to mikevago (#2,409,166)

That is shockingly offensive. Also, Pesin's Friends of Liberty State Park raised money from the community for many of the amenities currently there!

The People's Park propaganda people are so deeply, deeply distasteful.

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EyesOnImprovement t1_jdzjm13 wrote

Replying to mikevago (#2,409,166)

Run by Bruce Alston, mortgage fraudster, convicted criminal and serial losing political candidate. Bruce, who has never met a check he didn't like, played a similar role in the airbnb debacle - parlaying the plight of the disadvantaged into a reason to support whichever cause is paying him.

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AbazabaYouMyOnlyFren t1_jdznx1r wrote

Just have a look into how Cooper Union. It used to be tuition free because of a massive endowment.

So what happened. Rich scumbags raided it to build a bunch of real estate projects for their own personal gain.

https://news.artnet.com/art-world/cooper-union-tuition-free-2029-1956184

Cooper Union is no longer tuition free. Sure they're trying to get it back, but good luck.

This is the same old story. Some shitbag who is already filthy rich just can't stand the fact that it's something they can't leverage to make more money for themselves.

Some things are services, not businesses.

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candyghost t1_jdzr4bx wrote

But it's OVER TEN YEARS OLD!!! goodness. steeped in history.

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NewJerseyLefty t1_jdzsmxp wrote

as usual, rich elites trying to steal from the people to privatize it to make money for themselves. Don't fall for it JC!

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Byzantium-1204 t1_jdztn7n wrote

I have never heard of Hudson Chronicals. What a terrible message. What is going on with 902 now? Have they issued an apology for hosting this staged event.

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49GTUPPAST t1_je02jrd wrote

Developers have been trying to grab Liberty State Park for years.

I remember signing a petition back in 1986 to stop developers from toch8ng Liberty State Park.

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mikevago OP t1_je04a96 wrote

Replying to candyghost (#2,413,832)

That was in response to an earlier comment where I suggested the Chronicle was launched solely to push Fireman's propaganda. Then again, he's been at this for ten years, so I might not be wrong.

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mikevago OP t1_je04fsz wrote

Replying to nuncio_populi (#2,412,519)

Imagine directing that kind of language at a retired kindergarten teacher who's donated countless hours of his time to protect the park, and in defense of a billionaire who owns a country club.

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mikevago OP t1_je057k1 wrote

Replying to oldnewspaperguy2 (#2,413,328)

Every part of Paul Fireman's astroturf campaign to privatize the park is disgusting, but this tactic he keeps using — trying to pretend turning public land over to developers, and handing public land over to a country club with a $400,000 entry fee is somehow a racial justice issue.

He's somehow persuaded a few people at the NAACP to spout his propaganda. He set up a phony "protest" in the park last year, so Friends of LSP organized a counterprotest. The LSP group drew people from all walks of life, from every community in JC. The astrotruf protest was 100% Black, apart from the white guy telling everyone where to stand and what to chant. It's what's known in the business as "buying optics." It's absolutely shameless, but there's no low to which Fireman won't stoop.

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nuncio_populi t1_je09xau wrote

Replying to Sybertron (#2,416,713)

For us? It apparently is too much to ask.

For Paul Fireman, it's too little because there's no way for him and his friends to make money from selling tickets to sporting events, music performance, and charging the state fees to build and maintain a bunch of commercial properties.

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Substantial-Coach717 t1_je0fedi wrote

This Hudson Chronicle comment is so outrageously offensive, I am in a state of shock. It would be a repulsive comment against anyone, but Sam Pesin as a target is just absurd. Sam has been deeply committed to racial justice and equity for multiple lifetimes of the Chronicle. He was my kids' preschool teacher and they learned more about equality, justice and respect from Sam than they have from all teachers combined since. He had explicit, age appropriate conversations about racial justice and what it means to stand in solidarity with each other at a time when no one did.

The developers and their outlet are pissed because without a financier or publicist, Sam has fared so much better than they have. Sam holds values that align with what most of us believe, and has been organizing at the grassroots level with people who share his committment- two ingredients the Fireman crew lack entirely.

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