Submitted by XIFOD1M t3_z7il0j in jerseycity
I mean when you think for even half a second, it’s obvious. And a sidewalk in the tunnels would be stupid, but still. Lame.
Edit: Is it really not a problem for people that there’s no free way of spanning the less than a mile that separated the two cities?
Depends on where in Manhattan and where in JC you’re going… it took me about 5 hours during the blackout of 2003
I was gonna say. I appreciate the answer but its not really a feasible solution to the problem of “walking from JC to Manhattan”.
Yet, still more helpful than the answers that say it’s very easy to walk from JC to Manhattan so long as you’re ok with using a mode of transit other than walking.
I actually typed 2 hours then looked it up and was gobsmacked. Just to walk to the closest point across the river would be 20 minutes without the water, but going over the GWB is SEVEN HOURS FORTY MINUTES
Time to invest in some flippers I guess
Where’s that kid who used to post about digging a pedestrian tunnel?
When we needed him most, he vanished
Or the one that proposed a cargo ferry for vehicles as if that would be time efficient… 🤔
He started the digging.
And used the release of the new iPhone as a reason 😂😂
Hahaha I literally came here to say this.
Maybe we need to do a GoFundMe to keep that kid going, digging the tunnel with his spoon?
walk yourself onto a ferry ⛴️
Walk to the Path.
Pass through the seven levels of the Candy Cane forest, through the sea of swirly twirly gum drops, and then walk through the Lincoln Tunnel
Bye Buddy. Hope you find your dad.
Unless you’re Jesus Christ or Buddy the Elf, I don’t think there’s a direct way to walk from nyc from jc…
Man discovers large rivers
Yeah you’re right. It’s foolish of me to expect there to be any mode of free transit between the country’s largest city and one of its most populous direct neighbors. Also, you’re gonna lose your mind when you hear that the solutions that allow a car to traverse that body of water (i.e. bridges and tunnels) also afford pedestrians the same ability under normal circumstances
You’re being sarcastic, but I am right. There is no feasible way to build a bridge below the George Washington, and a new tunnel would cost hundreds of billions. It’s just an entirely unrealistic expectation and would be a huge waste of money.
The amount of people that want to walk to Manhattan is tiny - We’d be better off using that money to literally make the path free for everyone for years.
There’s no room in the current tunnels for walking, and even if we could get a lane back in from vehicles, it would be obvious to make it a two way bike lane, not for pedestrians.
I’m a pretty big anti-car guy but it’s not a new issue that you can’t walk across rivers. Any pedestrian bridge would have to be as high as the GW to let ships through. It’s just not practical. The ferry or PATH is inexpensive and convenient.
There’s not but getting from Manhattan to the other boroughs is not really any easier. The path does a very good job of connecting us to NY and it’s only 2.75.
well on this point i disgree, there are several bridges between manhattan and other boroughs, i ride my bike over them all the time.
There’s a ferry.
I’m not sure why you think it should be free. Crossing rivers has rarely been free in the course of human history.
It should be free because it would show responsible financial choices conducted by the government with the money you spent 3 months out of the year making.
We’ve estimated the math here before. It would be more financially responsible to helicopter people across than build/maintain a bridge with even the most ambitious usage. And not even bothering with the realities of hot summers and cold winters which would impact usage.
The ramps alone you’d need to get to that height and be walkable/bikeable would be absolutely massive and consume multiple blocks on each side. And no, you couldn’t rely on just elevators as you’d have security/safety/maintenance issues.
The scale is just insane.
Holland Tunnel if youre ballsy. otherwise not really because urban planning in 99% of america is a nightmare
Is there anything actually stopping me from walking in the tunnels? Like is it illegal? Cause they’ve got those little ledges on the sides
I’m sure PA cops would stop you
They would. A dance group that was stuck in traffic a few years ago and running late tried it a few years back and got arrested.
Did they make it to their show?
My apologies, it was like 12 years ago, but feels like much less. There apparently were no arrests in the end.
Getting arrested for that is a bit overkill. Just make it a fine.
My friend rode his bike through years ago and was only fined.
Getting a fine got that is a bit underkill. Just make it on the spot execution.
My friend got rode through the tunnel on a bike like 15 years ago. He got a ticket in the other side but they didn’t actually arrest him.
It is indeed illegal.
For various reasons, it's not possible to build a bridge between Manhattan and JC/Hoboken without demolishing lots of buildings, therefore no walkway. And given how awful the air is inside the Lincoln and Holland Tunnels is.....
Air inside the tunnels isn’t that bad unless there is lots of traffic, they have very good ventilation systems. They can totally refresh the air inside the tunnel every 90 seconds, they were designed to keep tunnel goers safe from car exhaust before catalytic converters were invented. At the time the tunnel was built vehicle exhaust was substantially more dangerous.
I did a "fun run" years ago that went through the tunnel. It was closed to traffic only about an hour before we were scheduled to go through. It wasn't smoggy or smelly at all, the ventilation system is remarkable.
That’s a pretty significant bummer
I GOT IT !! Rent a box truck, like a UHaul. Put a treadmill in the back. Hire someone to drive or get a friend. You get in the back and hop on that treadmill and start walking as your friend or rent a friend drives into the city
The answer is obviously a zip line
That would actually be kind of awesome!
Walk to Staten Island via the Bayonne Bridge to the free ferry to Manhattan .
Love this!
Of course there is; straight up to Fort Lee and take GWB to upper Westside of Manhattan, no sure of walking but doable with ebike
Doable with non ebike too. And Fort Lee has great breakfast stops part way through!
Buy a kayak or a SUP. One time investment. A lifetime of free crossings from JC to Manhattan. With a SUP you won't be walking, but at least you'll be standing.
Take the ferry
Walk to down to the path train, sit down. Walk into nyc
hell, you could even walk around the train car the entire time.
Adding another FREE method that is not 100% walking. The walk portion is shorter than over the GW, but you can walk over the Bayonne bridge and proceed to the Staten Island Ferry which is free. If you were itching for steps, you can lap the boat. It's pretty big.
Here's an older idea for a bridge: https://www.libertybridge.org/gallery
My understanding is:
A few of us pitched Rob Menendez Jr. on it at a JSQCA meeting a few months ago. My angle was that it would be pretty easy to build, and someone would get to put their name on it. It should be a slam dunk for some local or regional pol, it would be extremely popular.
Even if you built such a thing, it wouldn't get much use. People just don't like to walk that far, even New Yorkers. The GW Bridge gets about 200,000 pedestrian crossings per year, compared to 100,000,000 vehicle crossings per year. Put another way, more vehicles cross the GW every day than pedestrians do in a year, almost 40% more. Even if a JC - Manhattan pedestrian crossing was somehow an order of magnitude more successful than the GWB and managed 2 million pedestrians per year, it wouldn't make much of a dent in the 14 million vehicles that go through the Holland Tunnel, 19 million vehicles that go through the Lincoln Tunnel, or the PATH's 34 million annual riders.
There are just much better transportation investments to make.
Above ground: Yes, it's disappointing when you consider other major cities have cross-river paths but we have the 3rd largest port in the country, which they do not. Because of the size of the ships, this bridge would need to be monstrously tall, which would sort of defeat the purpose. It wouldn't be that easy/fast to get across, and probably wouldn't have the chill "I'll go for a nice walk" vibes we imagine when we think of being able to walk across the river (see: GWB). That said, I'm no cargo/marine traffic expert, but I assume there's a logical reason we can't pull this off.
Below ground: The thought of it gives me claustrophobia and phantom pee smells and I'd rather take the PATH.
walkway over the hudson is built into a cliff / elevation (at least on the western side, i didn't go to the end of the eastern side) whereas both ends of the theoretical bridge we're discussing is at sea level
Here we fuckin go….
paddleboard
Yes, there’s a…. PATH….. there
I kayaked from the Morris Canal to the World Financial Center 10+ years ago. With all of the power boat traffic in that area of the Hudson River (much of it alcohol-fueled, probably), I found the experience quite terrifying. Thankfully, I wasn't run down by a jetski.
its just 2 bucks for the train to get you there in 10-20 minutes...
Unless you're Jesus, otherwise you will need to swim it or take the ferry.
It’s a valid question, but they want your money to cross
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I read a few years ago, someone was out drinking late and walked through the path tunnel from wtc to exchange place.
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Wait til the hudson freezes up during the winter...Best time for it if you don't want to take the gwb reroute... I use to watch a man do it as kid in the 80's
They want to get rid of cars so bad they should have a bike and walking path as well as a monorail
I'd say within the next 100 years, a pedestrian / bike bridge will have to be built. And within 2 years of it opening, it will become a TOLL pedestrian / bike bridge.
Definitely an abandoned project, but could have been cool: Liberty Bridge
If you want to get really depressed about the lack of pedestrian crossings here pull up Pittsburgh on google maps. So many pedestrian crossings on all the bridges there.
How many cargo ships go to Pittsburgh?
Which cargo ships pass through the Hudson across from jersey city?
A lot of large cargo ships and cruise ships use the Hudson. Enough that it would be impractical to build a bridge here that isn’t 200 ft tall.
Source: I can see the river from my window.
Also, the Monongahela and Allegheny rivers in Pittsburgh are much narrower than the Hudson is here.
A fairer comparison is probably the Mississippi River in New Orleans, where the river is really wide. There are only two bridges that cross the river there and because they have to be tall enough to accommodate large ships, they are massive bridges with long approach ramps that no sensible person would want to commute on by foot.
True. Cruise ships do though.
LOL Pittsburgh gets those too. It’s okay. They do something better than us. We can admit that.
yes, it‘s a problem. but i suspect if a pedestrian/bikeway existed, housing costs would increase.
HappyArtichoke7729 t1_iy6uzt1 wrote
Walk over the George Washington bridge, only a 7 hour 20 minute detour.