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seanofkelley t1_j9z7pza wrote

It's way nicer than the west coast of MA.

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cmh413 t1_j9zhoqb wrote

The Quabbin Ocean would like a word.

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streetworked t1_j9z5ojt wrote

Coast of MA? New Bedford is culturally far from Manchester By the Sea; Chelsea doesn't resemble Duxbury. Boston is a whole other thing. No one is going to be able to give you a genuinely helpful answer to this question.

Could you narrow it down? Do you need to live within commuting distance of a specific town?

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OddTry2427 t1_ja0s75h wrote

Solid response. It varies within each town let alone each area.

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Seaworthiness222 t1_j9z0n6q wrote

There's like 190 miles of Massachusetts coast. You should say which region you are considering. North shore? South Shore? The Cape?

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Elecrockcity t1_j9zoi97 wrote

Ah this was just an attempt to continue driving a political wedge into the conversation. The OP doesn’t actually care or know, they just want people to argue about politics because this is Reddit and folks in this sub might start pushing back on the narrative generation soon.

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big_red__man t1_j9zrpbk wrote

OP wants to get themselves sent to prison so their mental health issues can get diagnosed faster and also wants to buy a gun.

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averydarkcat OP t1_ja06765 wrote

I asked for politics of a surrounding state and no real political questions and not any political debate or statement

I answered and responsed to comments without any political leaning or preferance

What logic is it to start an "argument" in an random sub?

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Lildutchlad t1_ja06uc3 wrote

Thats the Massachusetts way, we’re argumentative. They don’t know call us Massholes for nothing

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Elecrockcity t1_ja0dgog wrote

Answer: engagement. Catches the eye, brings attention and disagreement is entertainment. And again, you led the topic statement with “politics,” which was clearly an attempt to instigate disagreement. Thus, entertainment.

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IamTalking t1_ja0bjx9 wrote

I lived in central/eastern ma and have zero idea what the politics of my neighbors are. I'm not sure why that would matter anyway.

Will you only be ok if your entire street has "hate has no home here" signs in front of their fences with their security cameras pointed at the front yards lol

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Nanotude t1_j9z83r6 wrote

State and national politics are very blue. Local politics very conservative. I live in a suburb north of Boston and my neighbors grew up in the houses they currently live in, or grew up just blocks away. People don't like change. Lots of NIMBYism. The downtown area of my city is decrepit and falling apart but nobody wants to do anything about it because it's always been that way and that's the way they like it. Real estate is crazy high, and people complain that their kids can't afford to live in the town they grew up in. But they are against building affordable housing. I dunno....

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WinsingtonIII t1_j9zfy39 wrote

I think to say local politics are "very conservative" is pretty misleading. It is true that local politics are very NIMBY in many Massachusetts communities (not all, the city I live in is building quite a bit, though there is a vocally opposed minority), but it's not like there are widespread local movements to ban acknowledging the existence of LBGTQ people in schools or things like that. Which are unfortunately things happening in some parts of the country.

The sort of "conservatism"/resistance to change you are talking about is primarily a housing/development thing (and I don't like that this resistance exists myself), it largely doesn't extend to other aspects politically.

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Nanotude t1_ja0t3h0 wrote

Well, in my city, the conservatism goes into social issues as well, and yes there is a contingent here that wo love to take us back to the 1950s and pretend LBGTQ people wouldn't exist if we didn't allow them to be open about it. Seriously. They don't always get their way, but they are very vocal, and it takes a very concerted effort to make any kind of progressive change here. Sure, every city is different but it would be very naive to believe everyone in MA is socially progressive.

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Nanotude t1_ja0r4tf wrote

If you read my comment again, I did say that STATE and national politics are very blue. LOCAL politics means municipal. At least in my city, and several others in my area, people are very much resistant to change and spending any kind of money to improve anything. That's pretty much the definition of conservative.

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Nanotude t1_ja0vay4 wrote

Also, folks in my city have routinely voted for Paul Donato, a Democrat on paper, but Republican by voting record, and who would absolutely outlaw abortion if he could. These are the folks I'm talking about.

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Imallama t1_j9zhsa3 wrote

This could describe pretty much every north shore city/town.

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WinsingtonIII t1_j9zj2mf wrote

There really aren't that many North Shore cities/towns where the downtown is "decrepit and falling apart."

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InevitableOne8421 t1_ja18m8h wrote

Have you seen Plymouth Rock? It’s the most majestic thing I’ve ever seen in my life and it’s right by the coast

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EzAwnDown t1_ja02rh8 wrote

it's is very coastal with coast-oriented vegetation. It has a coastal weather pattern. Trees grow upward and meals are eaten in the morning and evening..

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TheToneKing t1_j9z9qfk wrote

North Shore is nice. Politically diverse with a majority of Dems. Not as many open gun carriers as most southern and mid western states. Cost of living higher than most other places, but worth it IMO

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averydarkcat OP t1_j9zbvl4 wrote

How do people live / manage their money living in a place where the cost of living is high?

Is it all roomates or

Planning to move to Boston and other areas of MA

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iamspartacus5339 t1_ja17anj wrote

This is an incredibly broad question that has no real answer. You’d be better off googling

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cmh413 t1_j9zi93c wrote

In what demographic or statistic does more open carriers lead to more ‘issues’ period? Genuine question.

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Fantastic-Surprise98 t1_j9zdrc7 wrote

2A open carry BS isn’t a thing. We started the revolution to live in a commonwealth and free from being scared little ammosexuals with a pew pew.

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swatlord t1_ja1esvh wrote

>2A open carry BS

Just to clarify; do you mean open carry (IE carrying in a non-concealed, conspicuous holster) or constitutional carry (IE carry of firearms without permits)? Because it's totally legal, although likely frowned-upon, for a FID holder to open carry their firearm.

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Fantastic-Surprise98 t1_ja1ueow wrote

It’s a mocking of the ridiculousness of ammosexuals … you just walked into it.

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streetworked t1_j9zf5zc wrote

Hey OP. I read your post history. Are you thinking about MA as an option for healthcare access? What would bring you here?

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averydarkcat OP t1_j9zhjtt wrote

General work / life

I like the east coast and New York but want to live in other east coast states for bussiness / job opprotunites and maybe uni

Also variation of east coast politics / new england

I like it here but want to visit other states where politics would lean in different directions

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streetworked t1_j9zhw08 wrote

ok. Well you are right that it's very expensive to live here. If you get a job at any one of the universities many of them will waive tuition for you. Gun control and red flag laws are popular across MA but especially popular in eastern MA

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Conscious_Home_4253 t1_j9ziogt wrote

I live in a coastal community on the North Shore. It’s a small town that’s rich in history and friendly people. We have the annual Memorial Day Parade, The Horribles Parade/Fireworks for the 4th, tree lighting and Christmas Walk each December, Festival of the Arts etc. Numerous movies have filmed here, too.

Politically, it’s blue. People have USA flags and Ukrainian flags up. When the presidential election ended the few Trump flags were taken down and put away. I’ve never seen a MAGA red hat in my community.

Local politics is a mix- with no extremes on either side. We are able to meet in the middle. We have Town Meeting with elected Selectmen and town administration. Voting is easy.

Property taxes are lower, housing costs are 600k and up. We have our own electric, harbor, recycle/dump, locally owned movie theater that was recently redone, and all of our schools are completely rehabbed or built in the past 20 years.

It’s a big boating community, beaches and docks, shopping, stand up paddle boarding and kayak rentals, restaurants, walkable, and historical. It’s about 15 min to the highway and 30-40 minutes from Boston.

The only gas station in town is for boats. But the surrounding towns have plenty of them.

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Quiet-Ad-12 t1_j9zl1ak wrote

Go down to the 195 corridor and you'll still see Trump flags on the back of lifted dodge trucks flying down a 30mph road at 55 cuz MURIKA

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PulledPorkPlease t1_ja0rf25 wrote

It’s awesome. We have the big city, the casino, the sports venues, CAPE COD, beaches everywhere. Close to mountains for skiing as well. All 4 seasons.

Most people lean left but you’ll still find a lot of moderates and conservatives.

We have the best hospitals in the country and the best schools. Good affordable healthcare and solid insurance laws to protect motorists.

Gas prices never went that high when shit hit the fan, and food shelves are always full.

It’s an amazing area.

Rent can be a bit high if you live really close or in Boston. Just go to the Waltham area if you need cheaper rent.

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averydarkcat OP t1_ja11fnp wrote

Is cape cod really all that? Alot of New Yorkers go there for vacation or at least I heard lots about it in school

And thanks for the last bit

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PulledPorkPlease t1_ja3mw8a wrote

Yes. Cape cod is awesome. There are plenty of quiet towns and also plenty of party areas. My parents moved down there and have a house that is not in one of the tourist towns.

So summers are still amazing. And the rest of the year is so quiet and peaceful

The ding dongs that call it a “tourist trap” are literally tourists that get trapped in the tourist trap towns. 😂

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topsheetisamust t1_ja1cx1q wrote

No, I don’t like the cape especially in the summer it’s a total tourist trap. I prefer the beaches in Maine

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SufficientZucchini21 t1_ja2xjvw wrote

Overrated and crazy crowded.

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PulledPorkPlease t1_ja3mxho wrote

Found the guy that only goes to the tourist trap towns ^

Seriously tho, yea some places like Hyannis and Chatham and p-town get crowded in the summer. But unlike you can literally drive 5 minutes away and it’s very quiet in the summer.

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M_Shulman t1_j9zod3d wrote

Rocky, few beaches, water is cold.

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PulledPorkPlease t1_ja0rtme wrote

Laughs in cape cod. So sandy down there.

The water gets real nice in the summer. So refreshing

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kaver138 t1_j9zuh1i wrote

Southcoast is the place to be

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JamochaWitness t1_ja0ssej wrote

It’s okay. Coastal Maine is much prettier, and far less populated.

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rakdoc t1_j9z554a wrote

I lived in Albany for 3 years before moving back to MA. I can give you a good scope if have any questions

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averydarkcat OP t1_j9z6goc wrote

Gun laws, general culture and politics

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Seaworthiness222 t1_j9z9psd wrote

If you feel all obsessed with a certain interpretation of 2A might not like it. You have to wait until you are 14, pass a very basic firearms course, fill out paper work and they ask you if you've had guns "stolen" in the past, using an alias, are a citizen, etc. Pay between 25 and 100 bucks. They'll do a check and let you know when you are approved.

So if those seem onerous to you, you wont like Mass.

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averydarkcat OP t1_j9z9wjr wrote

Are there sensitive locations in MA?

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drewr3737 t1_j9znfe0 wrote

Yes, very much so. In each town in MA you have to apply for a LTC at the police office of the town you live after completing the required gun safety course and it’s ultimately the chief of police in that town that decides whether to issue it or not. That means each town has there own ‘rules’ as to interpretation. There used to be a map that graded each town red, yellow, or green depending on the likely hood of getting a license. A good resource is northeastshooters.com. Here on Reddit there is r/maguns that may be of help.

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j2e21 t1_j9z7l8h wrote

It’s great!

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BandwagonReaganfan t1_ja042lt wrote

Where are you from? What a wild way to phrase that question.

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kingeddie98 t1_ja0sfkt wrote

Inside the I-95 loop around Boston is quite urban and very liberal and expensive generally speaking with it becoming more so the closer into Boston you go.

Outside of the 95 loop, it progressively becomes more conservative and less expensive as you move away from Boston, but never enough to make a difference politically.

The nice thing about politics in general in MA is it is big talk from the left which owns the state politically but really things don’t change all that much. Coming from upstate NY, you would not feel much difference in political opinions but you would notice that generally that things are actually freer with less government interference in general.

For example, with regard to 2A stuff, big talk but really no action. The Bruen response bill failed so we are actually a shall-issue state with few sensitive places but still have leftovers from the gun control craze of the 90s like AWB, Mag ban, and handgun roster. Biggest issue for avg person is you need a license to even posses firearms. 2A stuff tends to fly under the radar.

If you are looking for a drastic change, try NH.

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newzap t1_ja1lh96 wrote

some water some land. its a good mix

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RJE2 t1_ja2tybt wrote

The Westport and dartmouth area are quite nice. Real estate and taxes are cheaper than Boston and people are nice. The beaches are very nice and generally not that crowded

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Spicydaisy t1_ja388l9 wrote

Are the beaches there private or public?

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singalong37 t1_jacdlme wrote

I guess it’s the usual mix. There are some state beaches that are public. I believe there are town beaches too. And some private that are pretty hard to get to at least in the summertime.

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Gcthicc t1_ja3h2kf wrote

The most important politic of coastal MA is; don’t enter the piping plover sanctuary, and don’t let your dog or your kids run through them.

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Tmontgomeryburns t1_ja3iy9u wrote

The coast is pretty big so depends on where you’re moving too. North shore, South shore, south coast?

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beansforbrunch190 t1_j9zm6gr wrote

I'd say it's a Lil better than the west coast of MA

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ConquestOfPizzaTime t1_j9z3j5x wrote

it's passable for the most part unless you're trying to get something done. Like someone else said, it's very socially liberal but even that can drift into right wing but fiscally and action-wise (like I said when you actually want to get things done and improved) it's pretty conservative.

obviously it depends on who you talk to around there or where you are specifically, but imo the worst are places like cohasset, weymouth, marshfield, Salem in October (tourism crowds), and further inland places like lakeville

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Initial_Dimension541 t1_j9z3eyg wrote

It’s trustafarian/nimby vibes. Very vocal socially liberal majority that just doesn’t want anything affordable in their town.

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Beantownbrews t1_j9z5gsi wrote

I would never in my life describe people from the south shore as trustifarians. Maybe one or two pockets. Even cape cod. Most full time residents are just regular folk.

NIMBY is fair though.

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streetworked t1_j9z5vmq wrote

I mean... Fall River and Attleboro are MA coast. There are towns that really fit your description but Revere, for example, is as MA coast as anywhere and I would not call it trustafarian

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Initial_Dimension541 t1_j9z87iq wrote

I would say the coastal towns touching Boston don’t have this vibe. Ipswich and Hamilton are places where everyone has a coexist sticker but they’re boycotting affordable housing on the commuter rail

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milesmaven16 t1_j9z8jv3 wrote

Attleboro isn't a coastal town.

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streetworked t1_j9z9jda wrote

Well...OP says "eastern MA" and "MA coast" so.... I'm thinking the salient point is that's too broad of an area to make generalizations about.

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