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Azr431 t1_j95ql55 wrote
Yup, the ‘fuck you I got mine’ crowd. They’re as transparent as ever
gmcgath t1_j9a215w wrote
Funny how the anti-freedom crowd loves the word "carpetbagger," devised by the white supremacist crowd to disparage people who got in the way of their comfy status quo. Says a lot about you.
xtnh t1_j9gs178 wrote
"anti-freedom crowd" is a kind of creepy meme phrase
anarchir t1_j9asfwm wrote
>sending in carpet baggers
Actually you'll find freestaters of all walks of life. Plenty of us are blue collar, many are not wealthy at all. And we certainly aren't being "sent" to New Hampshire. Those of us in New Hampshire are asking for them to join us.
If you care about carpetbaggers, look to the progressives who actually have billionaires paying for people to move to NH to fuck up our politics. (Granite State Progress)
cat-gun t1_j9fayrt wrote
> whether we want it or not.
Yes, it's annoying to be coerced to do something you don't want to do. That's the nature of government though, and the reason why libertarians want a homeland where there is as little coercion as possible. Free Staters are only doing what both liberals and conservatives do: voting for the laws and elected representatives we want to govern us. If our people / ideas are appealing enough to NH voters to win elections, then our representatives have just as much right to govern as liberals and conservatives.
DisMuhUserName t1_j95m81b wrote
It’s a movement that’s based on liberty and personal responsibility, its certainly not “a bunch of Uber rich folks”
V1198 t1_j95t0jv wrote
Look who’s paying the bills…versus who feels like they are in a movement. It’s billionaires, from away, looking to control your life here.
DisMuhUserName t1_j9aeybd wrote
Maybe I'm wrong? But who? What "billionaires"? Can you show me any legitimate source beyond you saying so?
anarchir t1_j9aslv0 wrote
As someone deeply imbedded in the Free State Project, how long before I can expect to figure out who these billionaires are? I've yet to meet them, and they certainly aren't sending any money to any of my projects. I'll happily accept a sponsor however.
DisMuhUserName t1_j95tvd9 wrote
Is that what you know or are those your thoughts? What billionaires? How are freedom loving people - people who literally want the freedom to be left alone - negatively affecting you? I’m sure you’re a good person and I’m not looking for an argument, just trying to separate hyperbole from reality.
V1198 t1_j95uxas wrote
Take a look at the funding. Yass, Mellon, Thiel. It’s a fairly open secret. And I’m all for freedom loving…but these guys are talking about seceding from the country. How’d you think that’s gonna pan out?
DisMuhUserName t1_j9aeqbw wrote
Look, maybe I'm wrong. Can you provide any proof that they're "funded by billionaires" besides you saying so? Something from a legitimate source, not one with a political agenda.
V1198 t1_j9afhfy wrote
That’s a fairly subjective criteria so I’d just suggest you Google the donor names and the organization at the same time and pick which source you’ll accept. Also keep in mind some of its nebulous as the powers that be have maintained a right to shielding us commoners from knowing who pays them off.
anarchir t1_j9asvmq wrote
So no source.
DisMuhUserName t1_j9dg8k2 wrote
What funding? You know, right? So just post a link. One single billionaire that’s on the record funding the Free State Project.
Berzerk_Unit_Alpha t1_j97aw9i wrote
This is my issue with them. I agree that taxes suck and most politicians are corrupt assholes. But what happens after secession? Then another group of corrupt assholes gets to make the rules? Except now the streets won’t get plowed.
Meet the new boss same as the old.
The free staters have a PR problem and they can’t even see it for themselves. They follow the same playbook as conservatives. Get elected to a position. Make it so that things don’t work well. Then stand up and say “look this thing doesn’t work well so we should get rid of it. “
They fly under the veil of liberty and freedom and the self righteousness is gross. Whenever it gets brought up in my family it is usually them saying that I just don’t understand.
What they don’t understand is that I caucused for Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012 (in a different state) and I have changed my mind.
anarchir t1_j9blqqv wrote
We have well over 100 free staters elected right now. What part of the state is not working well that you'd like to blame on them?
Berzerk_Unit_Alpha t1_j9bshpg wrote
It’s hopeless to try and change each others opinions. Can we agree on that?
Gunstock. School boards. Zoning ordinances. Trash collection. Destroy it all because of your personal philosophies. I don’t think it will end well.
I don’t like the free staters and their mission. I don’t trust them.
Therefore….. I hate liberty and freedom and blah blah blah.
anarchir t1_j9gfqlj wrote
>Gunstock
A ski resort owned by the state, freaked out when told they need to have more transparent finances and proper management, because they are millions in debt. Somehow that's the fault of freestaters because two of the people on the commission are freestaters? Remind me again why the state owns a ski resort?
>School boards
Take Croyden for example: Average schools are spending $9k/student. A freestater in Croyden tried cutting their $22k/student budget down to $10k. Still above average, and these are just elementary school kids in a one room schoolhouse, who despite high funding are having very poor scores. Somehow that's destruction by freestaters, even though it was majority NOT freestaters who voted in favor of it.
>Trash collection
You're referencing Grafton. Because lots of trash collection is privatized already, but there some local lady (not a freestater) was feeding bears like an idiot and therefore it must be trash collection problems caused by freestaters when the bear attacked.
Berzerk_Unit_Alpha t1_j9gl864 wrote
You are proving my point. Stop lecturing people. This is one more reason to hate free staters. You want engage in some deep philosophical debate over Reddit comment section. I have heard all those things before, this is not my first rodeo.
I have counter point ON EVERYTHING YOU SAID. But I am not going to engage with you. I don’t owe you any explanations and I don’t need them from you. The fact that you want to continue engage shows exactly what type of person represents the FSP.
Did you not read what I said? It certainly doesn’t seem like you did. It seems like all you want to do is lecture people, but what you don’t see is no one cares because no one’s liberty is in jeopardy. I have been down that road and back again.
Plus I can give you the libertarian argument FOR universal basic income and universal healthcare. (You read that right).
So congrats to you for being 100% right about everything and having the solution to all of the worlds problems.
I am just and ignorant leftist Marxist Leninist socialist that loves beuracracy and hates liberty and freedom.
Sound good?
anarchir t1_j9gpqdy wrote
Oh no, I want to comment in the comment area on a website. Such weird behavior to want to engage in discussions with other people in the appropriate place to do so.
Berzerk_Unit_Alpha t1_j9gu0e3 wrote
Congratulations. You are proving my point some more. I never said it was strange to want to comment that.I said I don’t want to engage with you in a philosophical debate here. Change the argument to what you want it to be about and you will always be correct.
You are of course 100% correct. Now walk away with win and be proud. Go educate the world.
anarchir t1_j9asss1 wrote
> Make it so that things don’t work well.
How's that working out for you? You think things are working better in Democrat or Republican controlled cities more? California or Florida?
Berzerk_Unit_Alpha t1_j9aup1b wrote
Swing and a miss. I dont belong to either party and you missed my point entirely. Nothing is perfect but….
I would much rather live in California over Florida.
I don’t like the humidity and I despise the right wing cancel culture in Florida.
Reddit_in_her_voice t1_j936oh3 wrote
People moving in to a place changes it politically for the worse and we should keep them out. I agree totally.
TurretLauncher OP t1_j93c8ay wrote
Any attempt to do that would be blatantly unconstitutional.
> The U.S. Supreme Court [most recently] dealt with the right to travel in the case of Saenz v. Roe, 526 U.S. 489 (1999). In that case, Justice John Paul Stevens, writing for the majority, held that the United States Constitution protected three separate aspects of the right to travel among the states:
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> (1) the right to enter one state and leave another (an inherent right with historical support from the Articles of Confederation),
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> (2) the right to be treated as a welcome visitor rather than a hostile stranger (protected by the "Privileges and Immunities" clause in Article IV, § 2), and
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> (3) (for those who become permanent residents of a state) the right to be treated equally to native-born citizens (this is protected by the 14th Amendment's Privileges or Immunities Clause; citing the majority opinion in the Slaughter-House Cases, Justice Stevens said, "the Privileges or Immunities Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment ... has always been common ground that this Clause protects the third component of the right to travel.").
jdkeith t1_j95v1pd wrote
> People moving in to a place changes it politically for the worse and we should keep them out. I agree totally.
Glad you're on board with a wall on the southern border of the U.S.
Reddit_in_her_voice t1_j93cakg wrote
I'm just agreeing with the other Democrat in this thread.
TurretLauncher OP t1_j93en6h wrote
Also, per this sub's posted rules: "No suggestions or claims that people aren't wanted in New Hampshire."
Reddit_in_her_voice t1_j93gpey wrote
I know I'm just agreeing with the Dem position
TurretLauncher OP t1_j93nnqz wrote
The Democratic Party fully supports the Constitutional right to travel.
TurretLauncher OP t1_j93e44u wrote
^ This violates this sub's posted rules: "No suggestions or claims that people aren't wanted in New Hampshire."
V1198 t1_j93jlzn wrote
Not suggesting anyone is unwanted. Suggesting that if an idea is a good one you don’t need to pay people to move to a state to conduct it as an experiment first, you’d try it in your home state. Of course everyone is welcome in NH.
Now, of course, let’s also keep in mind one of their central tenants is secession from the country…
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Consistent-Winter-67 t1_j94z9gj wrote
They can stay. Their ideas can go. Free Staters are dumb.
AnythingToAvoidWork t1_j9417sk wrote
I'm not suggesting they aren't wanted in NH. I'm suggesting I don't want them near me.
bigmountainbig t1_j95jk5m wrote
Seems more like the opposite. they're saying "come live here if you want to try that shit."
Hereforthemadness1 t1_j93l5nx wrote
He is an idiot… but there’s a legitimate Q anon nutjob running against him. I’m not gonna dox myself on here but we’ve been in this town since before it was a town, and my family on the planning board/zoning commission/conservation commission/ etc for decades, and the new guy running legitimately will destroy this town. He’s already trying to put forth a lawsuit against the previous planning board members claiming “corruption” and “trying to destroy the town” or some BS like that. As a family of people who hate the free state movement from day 1, the fact a free stater actually is the lesser of two evils should seriously concern everyone.
TurretLauncher OP t1_j93naat wrote
And nobody else is willing to become a candidate?
Hereforthemadness1 t1_j93pj1h wrote
Tragic fact is that a position like the planning board is a rather thankless job. Someone in my family spend decades on it trying to preserve the town, yet allow for growth that is inevitable, and allow it in a productive manner instead of turning Amherst into another Nashua. Spent years working on a proposal to allow open space, not allowing housing developers to clearcut their 40 acre lots and slap houses in everywhere they could, but still allowing housing to be built and work with the land.
Then new people move to town, and shot it down, and now say that my family member and rest of the board is corrupt, taking bribes and should be sued. The family member in question is a very, very well respected person in town, anyone who’s lived here longer then these new flatlanders who think they know what’s best knows them and respects them. Also, she says that if she’s been corrupted, she doesn’t see the benefit from corruption, because we’re still poor as shit lol. Literally only live in this town because we were here before it was a town 😂
YouAreHardtoImagine t1_j93tybr wrote
Having served on boards, yes, it’s thankless but it’s truly rewarding more than not. It’s unfortunate so many are hardcore advocates of voting but hardly show up where a lot of work really could be done.
Hereforthemadness1 t1_j9494xa wrote
Absolutely, zoning, planning, and especially here in NE conservation boards are the utmost importance, what keeps much of our rustic glory in its prime and preventing swaths of land being bulldozed and devolved like those endless developments in Texas
jgren91 t1_j93yvns wrote
Are you a Wilkins? If so I see Sally posting all the time on the FB pages. There's a reason I moved to Amherst and these people are nut jobs
Hereforthemadness1 t1_j949es2 wrote
Not a Wilkins but I know them, and more down to earth people you’d be hard to find, except a few other of the old families in Amherst, MV area. You consider the Wilkinses to be nut jobs?
jgren91 t1_j94bb8d wrote
No not them. There's other people in Amherst who back the free staters and they are the nut jobs.
Hereforthemadness1 t1_j94bw2t wrote
Phew I was gonna say, the families like them, been here long as hell like the Pomeroy’s in MV, the Trows, the Lamson Descendants, in my opinion are the types of people we should be listening to. I don’t agree with all of their politics (who does agree 100% with anyone these days anyway), but they have as long as I’ve seen, always just wanted what’s best for the town and its folks.
TurretLauncher OP t1_j94cf5b wrote
OP is probably referring to the two declared candidates in this race (neither of whom is named Wilkins).
RoadAdventures t1_j9b6rif wrote
>TurretLauncher[S]
> OP is probably referring to the two declared candidates in this race (neither of whom is named Wilkins).
Have you forgotten that you are on the TurretLauncher account right now, OP?
TurretLauncher OP t1_j9byu8b wrote
In this context, "OP" refers to /u/jgren91 and is in reference to this comment.
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TurretLauncher OP t1_j9cidxp wrote
Publish your concerns at /r/butthurt/
Curious_Buffalo_1206 t1_j96pc70 wrote
Flatlanders? Dude you are a flatlander, Amherst has no mountains.
Hereforthemadness1 t1_j98086x wrote
Alright bub, go tell that to the northern Mainers who live in potato country and they’ll Ayuh your ass back to wherever you come from. It’s an expression, maybe I should say “transplant” to you instead, more applicable.
TurretLauncher OP t1_j93r8aa wrote
Thankless or not, somebody should step up and declare their candidacy. People in Ukraine are literally dying for their country right now, just as Americans did in 1776 ("Give me liberty, or give me death!"). Simply doing a "thankless" job for your town is way easier.
Hereforthemadness1 t1_j94bkyl wrote
I mean, that’s a pretty wide comparison. Yeah, it’s a much easier job compared to putting down your barber scissors and picking up a stinger missile to shoot down a Russian Jet. But that’s like telling someone who just had a broke limb to quit whining because people in Africa get their limbs cut off or Syrian children are getting gassed. Is it true? Sure.. is it a fair comparison? No even remotely.
The fact is that just caring about your town zoning will not prepare you for this role. As with any government entity, there’s much more to It then just going in and fixing things or changing things, hell a president can’t get fuck all done if they don’t control the house. You have to be willing to give up large amounts of your time, deal with knuckleheads, big developers with money and lawyers, all sorts of pains in the asses, for no pay, and often disappointing results. Most people who would be good candidates for these positions are also family people, working people, who between work and family can barely scrape together enough time to make dinner, let alone do the work required to prepare for each weekly meeting.
I’m not saying this to discourage possible valid candidates, for Amherst and towns across NE. I hope more people do take active roles in small government. I just want to really point out the silly comparison that you used. Like, I’m sure you get mad when you stub your toe or someone cuts you off in traffic, but have you ever considered that in Afghanistan women aren’t allowed to drive at all and will be killed if they’re eyebrows are seen?
Yeah, not super relatable is it?
TurretLauncher OP t1_j94fv2u wrote
It’s a fair comparison. The Founding Fathers put their lives on the line so people could have democratic freedoms. Some of those people today are too lazy to even vote.
Given that the current candidates are a Q-Anon and a Free Stater, a candidate whose qualifications are minimal could easily be elected.
As for the lack of pay, Amherst should consider changing that. State representatives get two (2) Benjamins per term. Maybe Amherst could spare a few nickels (or even dimes!) for its Planning Board members?
AnythingToAvoidWork t1_j941kuo wrote
Go for it
TurretLauncher OP t1_j94b9ji wrote
You are incorrectly assuming that I could be a candidate, which isn’t possible due to the requirement that all candidates must currently be Amherst residents.
_Im_A_Five_Star_Man_ t1_j95xdx3 wrote
Reading your reddit comments is like pouring bleach on my brain
_Im_A_Five_Star_Man_ t1_j95xb4l wrote
Then do it.
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anarchir t1_j9arxfb wrote
Sorens has given numerous talks on zoning and town planning. If you can look past the fact he is a freestater and look at his ideas he's actually very much overqualified for this position.
shuzkaakra t1_j9463ki wrote
Are they they only two people running?
Hereforthemadness1 t1_j949pnw wrote
Not sure, but it isn’t a glorious position so I wouldn’t be surprised. It’s a position that’s great for two things, preserving and ensuring the beauty and traditional values of our land, or perverting it to your own personal wills (in my opinion). I think I speak for many NH residents when I say I don’t oppose people moving to NH, as much as I oppose people moving to NH and trying to change it to their own desires. We aren’t a perfect state by any means, but we certainly don’t need big, new changes happening here to “fix” us. We ain’t broke, don’t try and fix us.
cat-gun t1_j9o2lbq wrote
> as much as I oppose people moving to NH and trying to change it to their own desires
Free staters who move to New Hampshire have the same right to vote for our preferred policies and candidates, same as you. Do you expect NH's culture to remain preserved in amber for eternity?
Top_Solid7610 t1_j93jy7q wrote
The “free staters” are anti-community, anti-society, everything they do is to dismantle our committees and society.
They are prickly people who were never well liked, social outcasts, indignant, arrogant and angry that they don’t fit in, and thus blaming society for their rejection the reason for dismantling communities, because misery loves company. They desperately want company that they never had.
ThunderySleep t1_j9e8ss2 wrote
Not a free stater, but their explicit purpose is to build a community.. They do all sorts of meetups and events because that's explicitly what they're trying to do.
Top_Solid7610 t1_j9eu7tl wrote
Their activities are about organizing to further their agenda, not about community.
anarchir t1_j9at8yt wrote
Free staters have a handful of community centers in the state, run businesses that are pillars of their neighborhoods, and have weekly potlucks. They aren't miserable, they're enthusiastic, supportive and excited about the ideas of freedom. Anyone who knows them would agree.
Top_Solid7610 t1_j9back5 wrote
Way to admit you are a free stater without disclosing it
anarchir t1_j9bly26 wrote
It's not really much of an admission when I'm completely open about that fact, now is it? Like I said, we're very active in building community. If you were more open minded, you'd consider coming to one of our events and seeing who we really are. They are on a public calendar afterall: FSP.org/calendar
Top_Solid7610 t1_j9cehot wrote
"Their", "They", "They're" instead of we, our? Sure didn't sound like you were owning it to me. I give you credit for being open and honest that you are a Free Stater. Many pretend to be Republicans or Democrats to hide their political agenda in seeking election.
anarchir t1_j9gf3iq wrote
I'm always open about it, most of us are. Politics and philosophy just dont come up in normal conversations for most folks. Going to come to one of our events then?
adam5isalive t1_j93mqxq wrote
I didn't realize that people coming to join our communities who want a more peaceful and free society were also anti-community and anti-social. You are truly wise.
Top_Solid7610 t1_j93o3bk wrote
The way they ran the Belknap Delegation would not be described as freedom loving or peaceful.
adam5isalive t1_j93obzk wrote
You'll have to enlighten me.
AnythingToAvoidWork t1_j941dq2 wrote
That's the great thing. We don't have to.
_Im_A_Five_Star_Man_ t1_j95xlys wrote
Don't know what happened in Belknap, but Croydon was a mess: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/10/us/croydon-free-state-politics.html
adam5isalive t1_j95z2m6 wrote
They wanted to cut the education budget? Sounds like a good idea to me. Government schools are pretty garbage.
Berzerk_Unit_Alpha t1_j97bav5 wrote
The schools in my town are great. I pay $6k a year in taxes. No kids. I hate paying but…
I want every kid in my town to have an education.
_Im_A_Five_Star_Man_ t1_j95z8yi wrote
what are your other good ideas?
adam5isalive t1_j9611qi wrote
A bunch of really good homeschooling co-ops around the state would be pretty nice.
_Im_A_Five_Star_Man_ t1_j96b423 wrote
Why?
adam5isalive t1_j96chm6 wrote
Because you get better results with homeschooling.
_Im_A_Five_Star_Man_ t1_j96grhn wrote
Why do you think society doesn't do this currently, if it's a better idea?
adam5isalive t1_j96ljq0 wrote
Lots of people are already doing this, the more the better. It's cheaper, doesn't require force or taxation, and those kids typically perform much better than government educated kids. Sounds pretty good to me.
_Im_A_Five_Star_Man_ t1_j96ygbw wrote
why isn't everyone doing it if it's such a good idea? sounds like if you were in charge, it would be easy to fix everything.
adam5isalive t1_j970rly wrote
What I'm advocating for is the opposite of me being in charge. I want parents to be in charge. Maybe you should read that blog post yourself.
_Im_A_Five_Star_Man_ t1_j9712w9 wrote
the people have decided they want public schools. you want the majority (regular, normal, functioning people from New Hampshire) to listen to the minority (free staters like you), aka you want to be in charge and tell people they can't have public schools.
You definitely do not understand that blog post.
adam5isalive t1_j975x3c wrote
I'm not part of the FSP, and I'm from New Hampshire.
Sounds like you're saying it's cool to force things onto minorities. Why do you want to dehumanize and confiscate the wealth of people who aren't like you? That's pretty lame.
_Im_A_Five_Star_Man_ t1_j979hvq wrote
You're so bad at this.
adam5isalive t1_j97akoc wrote
It's probably your hard hitting arguments and insights, combined with me not being a regular, normal, and functioning person. You're just too much for me.
_Im_A_Five_Star_Man_ t1_j98vyc7 wrote
weird
Top_Solid7610 t1_j963q1j wrote
Because that’s what Fox News tells you.
adam5isalive t1_j969vjo wrote
Cool assumption bro, I don't watch Fox News.
Top_Solid7610 t1_j965qlq wrote
Google?
adam5isalive t1_j969z0z wrote
DuckDuckGo?
Top_Solid7610 t1_j93olap wrote
They didn’t come to join our communities, the came with the intent to destroy it.
adam5isalive t1_j93prsg wrote
Oh. My bad.
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adam5isalive t1_j95xjmq wrote
Holy hell... libertarians are cultists who murder people?! Damn man.
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Action-Calm t1_j93tjcr wrote
Who's we?
lMickNastyl t1_j93z1x5 wrote
The majority of rational New Hampshire citizens. That's why they concentrate in single towns in order to take over the political levers of that area because every other place they don't have the numbers their ideas are soundly rejected.
JeffersonsDisciple t1_j94278a wrote
Sounds like another political class that concentrates in certain towns, causing elections to sway their way.
lMickNastyl t1_j943ev2 wrote
Is it a result of natural migration? Or a concentrated political strategy for the express purpose of wresting political control from the locals?
Because the two are not the same.
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Action-Calm t1_j93zzd4 wrote
So who elected you spokes person for any New Hampshire citizens, and can you cite your sources? I'm curious.
lMickNastyl t1_j942l4a wrote
What you didn't know I was elected King of New Hampshire?
Also here's your source:
I know Google can be hard.
Azr431 t1_j95rz1z wrote
Society
Action-Calm t1_j96bri4 wrote
The society in your head? Because it isn't as a whole.
Irishbangers14 t1_j93wawk wrote
46 years old? He doesn’t even look like he hit puberty
RickyDaytonaJr t1_j935lrd wrote
A good Planning Board member should be fair and unbiased to evaluate each application on its own merits. Planning Board members are supposed to act like judges, not activists. Putting his politics aside, nothing in this article leads me to believe he will have an unbiased approach to a Planning Board position.
notmut666 t1_j947mye wrote
These goons can pound sand
Goodbye11035Karma t1_j95j2cr wrote
Sorens, eh? It's been a while since I met him. Smart guy, but his ideas are a hot mess.
I met him during the time when the Free Keene movement was causing all kinds of problems in and around Keene. I was willing to listen to his pitch because I am openminded. Very few of his ideas had merit or any chance of success, but he was a pleasant guy. And then Free Keene showed up and ruined any chance their Libertarian movement would take hold with their batshit crazy antics.
Someone else needs to put some skin in this game and run against the current candidates because Sorens is just smart and charming enough to do a lot of real damage to Amherst.
dangerzonebjj t1_j97rmti wrote
Free staters are the worst
Azr431 t1_j95sbdz wrote
A privileged white guy that went to Yale? Yep, that’s pretty much the embodiment of libertarians
gmcgath t1_j9a27zr wrote
The race-obsessed statist crowd loves to erase Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, and other libertarians whose skins are too dark for them.
Azr431 t1_j9a2s7q wrote
Narcissistic capitalist bootlickers: "I have a Black friend!"
cat-gun t1_j9o3tuf wrote
He didn't say he was their friend, he pointed out that a number of prominent libertarians are black.
That said, libertarians do skew white and male:
https://www.cato.org/blog/libertarians-are-more-racially-diverse-people-realize
Azr431 t1_j9o9rag wrote
And about 10% of Black Americans vote for Republicans. They aren’t a monolithic group
Right wingers love to point out the Herman Cains or Sowells in an attempt to give credibility to their positions. They are a tiny minority that you appropriate to give credibility to your selfish ideas. This isn’t anything new.
I’m wholly aware that 2/3 of libertarians are white men and the largest cohort of them are in the upper income range. There’s a reason you are referred to as the privileged I got mine, fuck you crowd, although I prefer the house cat analogy.
_Im_A_Five_Star_Man_ t1_j95x4rd wrote
why do they all look the same
donkeyduplex t1_j94lea7 wrote
I absolutely despise FSP, am absolutely not a Republican... But this guy's take on zoning is not wrong...
smartest_kobold t1_j955nfw wrote
That's what he wants you to think until he lets a chemical plant open up next to a school.
donkeyduplex t1_j95m5q8 wrote
I agree he's gonna slow roll anything crazy that he he can. But we do need some residential zoning changes.
Curious_Buffalo_1206 t1_j96pqi9 wrote
Or an asphalt plant downtown…
SkinDrone t1_j9cezun wrote
"Anti-freedom" sentiment. Corrected.
xtnh t1_j9grthg wrote
I listened to him when he was invited to speak to the NH legislature by the NH Legislature, which paid him with taxpayer dollars.
He is a libertarian, but was employed by the NY University system, and thus a "public servant."
The reason they targeted NH is that the legislative elections are so cumbersome and low-key that it is easy for a few people in one town to elect someone, since so few residents know people by much more than name.
tghost474 t1_j961hki wrote
Lol the comments are pretty ignorant here.
Ctrl_Alt_Abstergo t1_j954l3x wrote
Before you judge Jason, it's important to note that he was so early to the Free State Project that he was pre-wackjob. He's sort of a neoliberal economics guy, and when it comes to the narrow purview of the planning board he's imminently well-suited for it, being academically inclined about those policies through his work at Saint Anselm's. He's an actual expert on housing policy, not an ideologue.
Qbncgr t1_j965k3e wrote
Early? Pre-wackjob? He literally wrote the free state plan! He’s the head wackjob!
Goodbye11035Karma t1_j9ahv78 wrote
That being said, and I agree wholeheartedly- he grossly underestimated the...not sure how to say this politely, so I will go with RABID...views of the people who wanted to join the Project.
His original plan was interesting, well thought-out, absolutely unworkable, but what is killing this project in the end is:
He ended up being bitten by his own rabid dog.
smartest_kobold t1_j9561zu wrote
If you crash a plane through your own negligence, maybe you aren't cut out to be a pilot.
Reddit_in_her_voice t1_j9360l0 wrote
Sorens is incredibly well qualified for this. Progressive ideologues will ree but no real arguments.
V1198 t1_j9362uk wrote
The whole free state project in frankly insulting. It’s a bunch of Uber rich folks sending in carpetbaggers to conduct their social experiment on the people who live here…whether we want it or not.
If the ideas are so good, try them in your own states. We aren’t Guinea pigs.