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weaselpoopcoffee1 t1_j8uh2r9 wrote

Reply to comment by tony_boxacannoli in Is RealID a replacement for State ID/License? by skhope

No. International still requires a passport.

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NatAttack50932 t1_j8uiqn7 wrote

Then what's the point? I can use my current license to get on a plane.

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WeCanDoThisCNJ t1_j8uj9ge wrote

That will be banned May 2025

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ginamcho t1_j8vim5o wrote

what’s the difference between the two for traveling if one just has a star on it

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THE_some_guy t1_j8wqo3l wrote

Well, it’s not just a star- it has other security markings too. But the important thing is they (supposedly) do a much more extensive background check on you before they give you the version that has the star.

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ginamcho t1_j8wrs9q wrote

hahahha no i know it’s not just a star but i was wondering what made this different. i moved to texas and already got mine. didn’t seem like a different process. btw texas DMV is so much better than NJ. first, i don’t have to go every time i lose my license which is often. they mail me a new one. the people were nice when i got my first one and you sit with the employee to go through the paperwork.

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css01 t1_j8xy5ib wrote

How many times have they pushed the date out? They'll probably push it out several more times before May 2025.

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zoicyte t1_j8uwvfs wrote

Yeah that’s unbelievable that NJ is making this a problem tbh.

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SleepyHobo t1_j8v3t8n wrote

It's a federal rule so the ban on using a non-realID drivers license for domestic flights applies to all states. That said you can also apply for global entry and that card can get you on domestic flights.

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Theo_dore229 t1_j8walgg wrote

It has nothing to due with the state. It’s one of the additional security measures in response to 9/11, yes that is how many times it has been pushed back.

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zoicyte t1_j8we2yi wrote

You misunderstand me.

Up until like literally this year NJ DLs have been realID SINCE 2001 or whatever. Now suddenly as they’re becoming required for national flights in 3 years NJ decides to cheap out and go back to less secure drivers licenses? Wtf.

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Theo_dore229 t1_j8wehky wrote

That’s not at all true or accurate , nj driver’s licenses have not ever been real id by default. They only began issuing them at all several years ago at the most if I recall correctly. The federal government has routinely pushed back the date to make real ID mandatory for domestic air travel, because many states, not just NJ, had been running behind in the roll out. Then the pandemic came around and made it an even bigger problem for people to get them, and it was pushed back again. I’ve had an NJ drivers license for over 15 years, I don’t currently have a real ID license, and I never have. They are not given out by default in this state.

Edit: to further clarify, since the roll out of real ID in Nj, all drivers licenses either have the real id star, or explicitly say they are not real id.

Perhaps you are confusing Real ID with the points system of ID needed to obtain the license? That was initiated as part of the process that would be required to obtain the Real id, but real id did not itself begin until 2020 or so.

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zoicyte t1_j8wfm39 wrote

Uh what?

I have had a real id nj dl since I was at least 28. In 2006.

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Theo_dore229 t1_j8wfq0y wrote

No you haven’t, and I don’t know why you seem to think you have. They literally did not even start issuing them until about 2020. I don’t know why you think this, but you are absolutely 100% mistaken.

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zoicyte t1_j8wfstp wrote

Remind me in a week when I get back. I’ll post my old ids.

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Theo_dore229 t1_j8wfyd3 wrote

Nj began issuing real ID in September 2019. I was off by a year. So no, you absolutely have not had one since 2006. Also, you should look into it, since you seem to think you have one by default, when they don’t even do that as of now.

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waukeecla t1_j8xl6an wrote

Here is a background if you're misremembering, NJ wasnt compliant until 2020: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_ID_Act

Also checking Google News Archives, there are no articles mentioning Real ID requirements in NJ prior to 2008. https://www.google.com/search?q=new+jersey+%22real+id%22&rlz=1C1RXQR_enUS1041US1041&biw=1261&bih=839&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A1%2F1%2F2001%2Ccd_max%3A1%2F1%2F2009&tbm=nws

Here is the first mention of REAL ID on NJ.com from 2009: https://www.nj.com/reporter/2009/12/somerset_county_identification.html

Did you by chance have a license in antoher state and transfer it to NJ in 2006? Or did your license have a star that you had assumed meant it as compliant, when may have just been decorative?

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THE_some_guy t1_j8wr167 wrote

> That will be banned May 2025

…maybe. It was originally supposed to be banned in 2012, and they keep postponing the deadline.

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EmbracedByLeaves t1_j8upcss wrote

It's a facial recognition database for the Fed that you can't opt out of. Thank the Patriot Act.

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