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iamsoupcansam t1_j5m86qb wrote
We need Mel Brooks to come out of retirement to do to superhero movies what he did to westerns.
Meanderingversion t1_j5mcekt wrote
While I wish he could, he deserves to rest in the living world while he has the chance to.
hour_of_the_rat t1_j5php20 wrote
>he deserves to rest
He's still working. He wants to die at work.
BrightBlueSquid t1_j5n7813 wrote
As it happens, he is coming out of retirement. He's doing a mini series of "History of the World: Part II" that's due out in a month or so.
Infernalism t1_j5m8ec6 wrote
"The Sheriff is a-near!"
killerbee2319 t1_j5md6s0 wrote
Or, and hear me out now, you could just... idk... not watch them?
I mean... that's what we did to transformers...
Ok. That was a bad example. Aparently, the last one made 32 cents, and the studio was super out of ideas.
No_Carpet7125 t1_j5mhvh8 wrote
We need a gritty Go-Bot reboot.
Bonezone420 t1_j5nnqus wrote
The western comparison is one that pops up a lot, and I've made it myself, but the conditions are nowhere near the same, honestly. Not that it can't happen - but a lot of people who make it don't entirely understand how and why the western died and thus it often gets reduced to "there were too many of them and people got tired of them". Which doesn't quite capture the scope of it.
For a start, while we've had super hero movies as arguably the dominant film mainstay for like twenty years now; westerns were dominant for eighty. But not just that, but there were a lot of them. People complain about getting a handful of super hero movies from like, two different megacorps every year - imagine if every movie studio was still releasing their own super hero movie like they very briefly started to back when marvel first really took off. Imagine the world where that never stopped, where we not only had a million adaptations, but companies just started greenlighting every jackass who walked into the office going "I HAVE AN IDEA SIR IT'S CALLED STRONG MAN, AND IT'S ABOUT A MAN WHO'S REALLY STRONG" or some shit. Because that's basically how it was with westerns, especially after the first thirty year period of dominance and other genres (like musicals) started to take the stage; they just began to mass make as much shit as they could to save any vestige of that waning popularity they could. There was so much shit, the sheer volume of westerns outpaced every other genre combined.
But, funny enough, there's a simple reason why that won't happen with super hero movies - and it's the exact reason why so many people hate them. The big box office marvel and DC shit? Those cost a lot of money to make. Money and time. It's hard for any jackass to make one of their own, and a bad one hurts the company's bottom line and they don't like that. A western, on the other hand? Access to a rocky location, some sunny weather, and a prop department willing to look through second hand stores until you find enough battered, dusty, jeans, vests, and hats to fit the cast and you've got about 80% of the movie right there for cheap. They were relatively cheap, fast, and easy to produce for most studios, basically, and given that; they had a pretty safe return on profit which meant more would be made more often. You simply can't do that with the marvel mega films.
InternetPeon t1_j5mbqbe wrote
Sure a comic book can be any story you can imagine.
AND if you keep recycling formulaic tropes people will tire of you.
Infernalism t1_j5mbvwo wrote
Well, it's been 20 years or something.
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Xaero_Hour t1_j5md456 wrote
I remember when Green Lantern was supposed to be the sign of the end of superhero movies. Also, one of the X-Men movies (either the third one or the Wolverine origin one, I forget which) and I'm pretty sure one of the pre-MCU Spider-Men had the starting pistol for the end of superhero cinema as well. People don't really get sick of a genre; they get sick of bad movies. And say what you will about the MCU product as a whole, there's no denying that Feige knows how to get the right people to the right projects and how to pace releases. If anyone has the standing to actually make this claim, it's him.
dysfunctionalpress t1_j5m68i0 wrote
but...people have.
_peteyfourfingers_ t1_j5m74lk wrote
I’ve been sick of them for quite some time.
Chard069 t1_j5oysxi wrote
I've not seen any superhero flicks since one of the early Superman efforts. I've skipped the whole MCU thang. I download comics (but not modern MCU -- tedious stuff) and play movies mentally in my fevered imagination. Saves on theatre costs, hey?
YourFatherUnfiltered t1_j5m7tag wrote
we both have to resign ourselves to the fact that this world is built by and for stupid and vapid people with very narrow ranges of what their capacity allows them to enjoy. This world is not for people like us. We are the minority. It is their world we are living in.
"BUT I ENJOY MANY THINGS!!!!!!!!!!! YOURE JUST A GATE KEEPER"
k.
alexxerth t1_j5m8ljw wrote
Dude it's a fucking movie, calm down with your persecuted genius fetish
willstr1 t1_j5oy2uj wrote
Some people have, but enough people still like them for them to make bank
GetlostMaps t1_j5o65xc wrote
People already are.
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Nopenothu t1_j5n41wv wrote
They said the same thing about Westerns. Look where they are now. Hate on that fact all you want it doesn't change that it's still a fact.
OhanianIsTheBest t1_j5nch4a wrote
People will not get sick of comic book movies until they start making
Groo the wanderer (the movie)
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PanicFridge t1_j5ohse7 wrote
All I want is another Dredd movie.
drbrunch t1_j5qgaip wrote
I cant get enough of Bruce Waynes parents getting shot, I could watch Batman reboots every day
Dickmusha t1_j5sb144 wrote
People have enjoyed comics for decades. Why would they stop enjoying them now? Have you met a 12 year old boy before? lol. I do not see 12 year old boys ever not liking super hero movies and they are going to continue the cycle that their dads took part in. Also the first Superman was in 1978. Its been a thing for a long long time.
kenneb18 t1_j5m4xdp wrote
As someone who greatly enjoys the superhero genre, I can safely say that I am sick of comic book movies.
blahbleh112233 t1_j5m5wt7 wrote
Are you sick of comic book movies or just Marvel movies? Cause there's a massive amount of stories you can pull from comic books to make a pretty wide range of movies, shit even within Marvel comics.
Chard069 t1_j5oyy2f wrote
Cf. FRITZ THE CAT and forget MCU.
kenneb18 t1_j5m864x wrote
Honestly a lot of Marvel movies have felt like soulless cash grabs, and DC does not have a great track record with their creative decisions. The bigger, sprawling stories just don't work as well in the more limited medium or are poorly adapted to a point where they really should have just made an original story instead. Then there are the original stories that feel like they miss the point of the character or ignore some integral element, and it doesn't feel right.
kenneb18 t1_j5mawie wrote
And I miss practical effects
Sunspider2 t1_j5mapir wrote
I can't say I'm tired of all comic book movies, but I'm definitely tired of Marvel movies.
wubbbalubbadubdub t1_j5mefls wrote
I'm not super interested in generic origin story movies. But there are a boatload of awesome comic stories that I'd love to see adapted into movies.
Noxtree t1_j5m5y74 wrote
Can we have some Spiderman origin story again please? Its time
SeneInSPAAACE t1_j5noc9x wrote
*sigh*
- They mean superhero movies
- Superhero isn't a genre, it's a style. You can do superhero horror movies, superhero spy thrillers, superhero romance. Most of superhero movies are action/adventure, but that's the genre right there.
- People have no clue how many movies are comic book movies. Juno, From Hell, 300, The Crow, Extraction, Ghost World, A History of Violence, Edge of Tomorrow....
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Mother-Pitch5791 t1_j5pnw9x wrote
I watch. The whole avengers arc would have been much better if they hadn't made endgame, which was trash imo.
Infernalism t1_j5m4qdm wrote
He's right.
People have been babbling about 'superhero fatigue' since before the first Avengers movie. They still make billions every time a big one comes out.
It's a niche now. Like Westerns. As long as Marvel/Disney keeps making quality movies, people will keep going to see them.
If they make a string of JL/Morbius garbage movies, that might change, though.