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sumgye t1_jbqox7a wrote

Curious how this will turn out.

Either

  1. It will be great to spread out crowded cars.

  2. You will not be able to escape the smell of homeless gout and creepy men following you.

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sillo38 t1_jbqqops wrote

That's not this model. These are R211As, the R211T has the open gangways and hasn't started revenue testing yet. I don't think that's expected until December.

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Grass8989 t1_jbqtwfj wrote

Maybe the article has the wrong info, but from the article:

“The R211s come with:

Security cameras on the ceilings Wider door openings (58 inches compared to 50 inches on existing train cars) Open “gangway” passageways (similar to articulated buses with their “shotgun” layouts)”

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sillo38 t1_jbqxmyd wrote

It’s wrong (or they’re just lumping all the features together under the R211 umbrella), they only got the first full set of R211Ts a month or two ago. They haven’t done anywhere near the testing they need to do before they do revenue testing.

For comparison they had the first full, 10 car set of R211As since summer of 2021.

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FLHCv2 t1_jbr8xgy wrote

>before they do revenue testing

What does this mean?

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runningwithscalpels t1_jbrryeo wrote

Today was the first day of revenue testing on the R211s - they have to run trouble free in customer service for 30 days before transit fully accepts delivery on them - as of right now they still technically belong to the manufacturer. Any sort of glitch restarts the clock. The R179s which are the other "new" trains running on the A and C (and J) lines had lots of teething problems so you want the bugs worked out before you take delivery on a bunch of trains.

To put it in perspective, these R211 cars have been on property for 2 years doing various tests with nobody on the trains, training crews on the new equipment, etc before getting to this point.

The 211Ts which are the open gangway cars only came on property fairly recently - so they too have to do the empty testing first.

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nobigdealright t1_jbrus80 wrote

I would like to subscribe to your train facts

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archimon t1_jbsii72 wrote

/r/nycrail has plenty where that came from!

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F1yMo1o t1_jbraf8z wrote

I also thought it sounded silly. Especially as someone looking at financial statements all day.

Just looked it up, it’s step 4 in testing new trains.

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sillo38 t1_jbtajo8 wrote

Revenue testing in this sense essentially means passenger testing.

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D14DFF0B t1_jbqxjs6 wrote

Only a small portion of the overall R211 order is open gangway.

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Unubore t1_jbr67g6 wrote

In the linked tweet, you can see the doors in the last frame, so this train in service doesn't have open gangways.

https://i.imgur.com/VwBwMR1.png

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Grass8989 t1_jbr7kwz wrote

I’m thankful that didn’t go with an all open gangway design.

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SolutionRelative4586 t1_jbrvw38 wrote

I'm not. NYC should enter the 20th century. I do not like being trapped on a car with crazy people or nasty stuff.

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woodcider t1_jbsbruk wrote

You can always leave the car. With a gangway, there’s no getting away from the crazy. It’ll just follow you.

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Bluedude588 t1_jbspru5 wrote

Because crazy people never go in-between cars!

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tuberosum t1_jbt5rpo wrote

Dude everyone knows crazy people can’t navigate doors! It’s their only weakness.

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zachthompson02 t1_jbqvnk0 wrote

Showtime will be the entire train!

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iciclepenis t1_jbsb2r7 wrote

I've been excited for years that we were going to get modern cars. Never considered the inescapable loud-ass speakers produced by the anti-social. Not even "showtime," but the solitary dudes who roll their huge speakers around.

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duaneap t1_jbrmd65 wrote

Guess I’ll be killing myself then

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iv2892 t1_jbrqqcg wrote

For 2. The smell won’t travel far if the new train has very good ventilation and filters, also since the one car is much bigger you can escape the smell by moving to the other side of the car . In the unlikely event that somebody is following you is easy for the conductor to notice you, think of it as a big underground bus .

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Palaiologos77 t1_jbrcx7h wrote

It’s fucked up but one of the first things I thought is that an open gangway gives a shooter a clear line of sight to shoot down an entire train.

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MrCertainly t1_jbrkeew wrote

It's depressingly sad that we have to consider such things, but our elected officials won't reconsider a rule made 246+ years ago by a group of dead aristocratic land-owning white men who owned slaves.

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joyousRock t1_jbrrhef wrote

Obviously they’re dead since they lived in the 18th century. why is the fact that they were white a strike against them?

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MrCertainly t1_jbrwnya wrote

And here you are, nitpicking over minutiae instead of taking a step back and actually comprehending what I'm saying. You're just as bad as those who are pro-gun.

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joyousRock t1_jbv9eh9 wrote

I understand your point that our country’s gun laws are insane and I agree with you. our gun laws are problematic because we have more guns than any other country on earth and therefore a horrific level of gun violence. That’s the reason they should be modified, not because the 2nd amendment was written in the 18th century. Those are 2 different arguments, one is the actual logical reason for change and the other is just stupid nonsense.

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Grandmaster-1090 t1_jbqtmm6 wrote

This was my exact thought. That smell of homeless is going to have the whole train in a frenzy.

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davidg_photography t1_jbr37r7 wrote

It will be a combination of aromas between the homeless in the front and the homeless in the back

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TMWNN t1_jbt9uws wrote

New York ^Homeless Fusion cooking

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