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holeeray t1_iz7ibog wrote

What kind of deliveries? Mattresses, yeah, I'd believe it. I haven't seen any food delivery cars in NYC in like... ever.

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clorox2 t1_iz7jpkc wrote

Guys on electric bikes zipping in and out of traffic.

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burnshimself t1_iz8a6l7 wrote

The backbone of this city, and I mean that in all seriousness.

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NKtDpt4x t1_iz9gj0t wrote

? This city existed for hundreds of years before delivery people on ebikes and doordash.

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BasedAlliance935 t1_iz7x1yy wrote

It still happens, but not by much. Most just stick to motorcycles/mopeds and bike/e-bikes

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holeeray t1_iz7yatk wrote

I'm not saying it doesn't, especially considering TLC license holders also moonlight as delivery drivers from time to time. I just this the article doesn't really show knowledge of the city.

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bfume t1_iz9ex8f wrote

Moonlight? Uber straight up makes food delivery an official job description

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Ih8_Yogurt t1_iz8d5mz wrote

I did food delivery in Manhattan twice when I was in town. One got refunded cause they couldn’t find a delivery person. The other I had to wait for 3 different delivery people to give up on the order before I got food. Hurt my ankle so going outside wasn’t really an option.

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HMEstebanR t1_iz7mrzf wrote

My UberEats gets dropped off by car all the time, in Manhattan. Just 30 min ago, most recently. If it’s not a car it’s a scooter or motorized bike.

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mrchumblie t1_iz7sum6 wrote

I’ve probably had one car food delivery in the last 18 months. Maybe 1 car delivery out of every 100 food deliveries.

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HMEstebanR t1_iz7tliw wrote

For me it's more like 1 out of every 10 and just in the last few months some of them have started coming in Yellow Cabs.

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apupnamedscoob t1_iza8o7i wrote

Why is this getting downvote lol

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HMEstebanR t1_izb2fvz wrote

Because it implies that regular working class New Yorkers actually drive, which is the polar opposite of the narrative that many in this sub live to push. That would be my best guess anyway.

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Genghisglan t1_iz7nicv wrote

I worked for breakaway courier and fresh direct ... its not........ The people i delivered to the food ...they were always happy. They payd me 20$ for delivery and were always happy to see me during the pandemic and that fucking huricanes.... The stories...

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caylon1993 t1_iz8yr4p wrote

I’ve been a delivery driver in two polar opposite environments (NYC & Little Rock, Ar). I'd take delivering in NYC any day of the week, pay is better, much more safer, less miles driven per delivery, bonus: been in some of the most obscure elevators I've ever seen lol.

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chargeorge t1_izar9hr wrote

Plus you can hit a few cargo elevators lobbies with decent lunch spots in them!

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thereia t1_iz95fcn wrote

Aren't these all basically measuring the same problem? Also this would only apply to people who drive for delivery, not the army of bike delivery folk.

Congestion level
Number of traffic jams
Traffic jam length
Hours lost during congestion
Driving speeds

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_bird_internet t1_iz9d1wc wrote

Drivers? Uh, that’s because delivery in NYC is typically done by bike, not car.

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ThePinga t1_iz7rbba wrote

Sure, but it’s so densely populated you don’t need a wide delivery range.

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elizabeth-cooper OP t1_iz7bhqa wrote

Based on: Congestion level (worst); Number of traffic jams (worst); Traffic jam length (worst); Hours lost during congestion (2nd worst after Chicago); Driving speeds (worst, tied with Philadelphia); Distracted driving fatalities (2nd worst after Chicago)

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rentoff t1_iz7fvyi wrote

Considering the number of people that make their living in delivery in this city, I’m pretty sure this study is bupkis.

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holeeray t1_iz7ifm3 wrote

The person who wrote this up probably hasn't spent more than a few days in the city and come to realize that traffic doesn't matter when you're delivering by e-bike.

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rentoff t1_iz7lm3d wrote

It’s just a dumb statement, which I initially reacted to. Yes, NYC is tough for drivers, but it’s not the worst for delivery people and couriers. It would take a different set of metrics to capture how the City actually works.

It does specify drivers though, so maybe I should have just ignored it.

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Miser t1_iz7nux5 wrote

Yeah this is like how even delivery apps will say things like "your driver is on the way!" Or show an icon of a car. People outside of the city literally don't understand almost all deliveries here are made by r/micromobilityNYC or mopeds, not cars

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elizabeth-cooper OP t1_iz7he10 wrote

Number of traffic jams and fatalities should be adjusted per capita and traffic jam length should be adjusted by city size, but the other three seem accurate enough.

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burnshimself t1_iz8ado3 wrote

This completely ignores that most food and package deliveries are done by bike couriers who are unimpacted by congestion, traffic jams, or driving speeds. Just completely irrelevant metrics in New York unless we’re talking about furniture delivery.

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kaip629 t1_iz9i55q wrote

Hahahaha what a useless study. OP doesn’t realize that none of these deliveries are done by car

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doodle77 t1_izbg80f wrote

They're really measuring the wrong thing. Like for UPS it doesn't matter that it takes more than 1 hour to go 10 miles because 10 miles is longer than your whole route.

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fes57 t1_iz8e9pj wrote

And pedestrians

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lemming-leader12 t1_iz8n08b wrote

It absolutely sucks to drive in this city. Honestly I want to not ever own a car but because of how ridiculously expensive things are I'm pretty much forced to keep a car I barely use but still pay insurance on. I drove across the country and supplemented income with courier work. Pay was decent in some of the most unsuspecting cities such as the midwest and mountain states, even some populated west coast cities. But once I got to NYC it was over, it's impossible to compete with legions of people on scooters who do it all day, often because it's the only work available to them. The picking were slim, you could forget the bonuses at certain times, and the traffic and parking and ticketing were a nightmare. Not much better for delivery drivers in general, very tough city to work in for that kind of stuff.

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TheToadLife t1_iz9n36x wrote

Just take out “for delivery and courier drivers”

Let the downvotes rain

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downonthesecond t1_iz7x2ue wrote

I can't understand why people get food delivered in a city, most brag about dozens of restaurants being within walking distance.

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Effeted t1_iz828nn wrote

Lol how is it so hard to understand. If people are too busy/lazy to cook they’re likely also too busy/lazy to get dressed and go to a restaurant

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FriendLost9587 t1_iz9dfv8 wrote

Being sick, tired, busy with work and can’t pick up, simply not feeling like walking, there are a lot of reasons

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22thoughts t1_iz7q2fs wrote

Well, that’s what happens when the city does everything in its power to make life difficult for drivers

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