Submitted by elizabeth-cooper t3_zemwct in nyc
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rentoff t1_iz7fvyi wrote
Considering the number of people that make their living in delivery in this city, I’m pretty sure this study is bupkis.
elizabeth-cooper OP t1_iz7he10 wrote
Number of traffic jams and fatalities should be adjusted per capita and traffic jam length should be adjusted by city size, but the other three seem accurate enough.
holeeray t1_iz7ifm3 wrote
The person who wrote this up probably hasn't spent more than a few days in the city and come to realize that traffic doesn't matter when you're delivering by e-bike.
clorox2 t1_iz7jpkc wrote
Guys on electric bikes zipping in and out of traffic.
rentoff t1_iz7lm3d wrote
It’s just a dumb statement, which I initially reacted to. Yes, NYC is tough for drivers, but it’s not the worst for delivery people and couriers. It would take a different set of metrics to capture how the City actually works.
It does specify drivers though, so maybe I should have just ignored it.
HMEstebanR t1_iz7mrzf wrote
My UberEats gets dropped off by car all the time, in Manhattan. Just 30 min ago, most recently. If it’s not a car it’s a scooter or motorized bike.
holeeray t1_iz7nekd wrote
"all the time"
Genghisglan t1_iz7nicv wrote
I worked for breakaway courier and fresh direct ... its not........ The people i delivered to the food ...they were always happy. They payd me 20$ for delivery and were always happy to see me during the pandemic and that fucking huricanes.... The stories...
HMEstebanR t1_iz7noii wrote
That’s all you got? I’m sorry, is that all you have?
Miser t1_iz7nux5 wrote
Yeah this is like how even delivery apps will say things like "your driver is on the way!" Or show an icon of a car. People outside of the city literally don't understand almost all deliveries here are made by r/micromobilityNYC or mopeds, not cars
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22thoughts t1_iz7q2fs wrote
Well, that’s what happens when the city does everything in its power to make life difficult for drivers
mrchumblie t1_iz7sum6 wrote
I’ve probably had one car food delivery in the last 18 months. Maybe 1 car delivery out of every 100 food deliveries.
HMEstebanR t1_iz7tliw wrote
For me it's more like 1 out of every 10 and just in the last few months some of them have started coming in Yellow Cabs.
BasedAlliance935 t1_iz7wqnc wrote
What can we do to fix this issue?
BasedAlliance935 t1_iz7x1yy wrote
It still happens, but not by much. Most just stick to motorcycles/mopeds and bike/e-bikes
downonthesecond t1_iz7x2ue wrote
I can't understand why people get food delivered in a city, most brag about dozens of restaurants being within walking distance.
holeeray t1_iz7yatk wrote
I'm not saying it doesn't, especially considering TLC license holders also moonlight as delivery drivers from time to time. I just this the article doesn't really show knowledge of the city.
Effeted t1_iz828nn wrote
Lol how is it so hard to understand. If people are too busy/lazy to cook they’re likely also too busy/lazy to get dressed and go to a restaurant
weed-was-consumed t1_iz855dw wrote
NYC has had food delivery long before Uber Eats/DoorDash came around
Appropriate-Let-3855 t1_iz86a8h wrote
Because people want to service for no tip
burnshimself t1_iz8a6l7 wrote
The backbone of this city, and I mean that in all seriousness.
burnshimself t1_iz8ado3 wrote
This completely ignores that most food and package deliveries are done by bike couriers who are unimpacted by congestion, traffic jams, or driving speeds. Just completely irrelevant metrics in New York unless we’re talking about furniture delivery.
Icy-Performance-3739 t1_iz8c6uv wrote
There is a possibility the comment was made by a 14 year old! Lol
Ih8_Yogurt t1_iz8d5mz wrote
I did food delivery in Manhattan twice when I was in town. One got refunded cause they couldn’t find a delivery person. The other I had to wait for 3 different delivery people to give up on the order before I got food. Hurt my ankle so going outside wasn’t really an option.
lemming-leader12 t1_iz8n08b wrote
It absolutely sucks to drive in this city. Honestly I want to not ever own a car but because of how ridiculously expensive things are I'm pretty much forced to keep a car I barely use but still pay insurance on. I drove across the country and supplemented income with courier work. Pay was decent in some of the most unsuspecting cities such as the midwest and mountain states, even some populated west coast cities. But once I got to NYC it was over, it's impossible to compete with legions of people on scooters who do it all day, often because it's the only work available to them. The picking were slim, you could forget the bonuses at certain times, and the traffic and parking and ticketing were a nightmare. Not much better for delivery drivers in general, very tough city to work in for that kind of stuff.
caylon1993 t1_iz8yr4p wrote
I’ve been a delivery driver in two polar opposite environments (NYC & Little Rock, Ar). I'd take delivering in NYC any day of the week, pay is better, much more safer, less miles driven per delivery, bonus: been in some of the most obscure elevators I've ever seen lol.
_bird_internet t1_iz9d1wc wrote
Drivers? Uh, that’s because delivery in NYC is typically done by bike, not car.
FriendLost9587 t1_iz9dfv8 wrote
Being sick, tired, busy with work and can’t pick up, simply not feeling like walking, there are a lot of reasons
bfume t1_iz9ex8f wrote
Moonlight? Uber straight up makes food delivery an official job description
NKtDpt4x t1_iz9gj0t wrote
? This city existed for hundreds of years before delivery people on ebikes and doordash.
kaip629 t1_iz9i55q wrote
Hahahaha what a useless study. OP doesn’t realize that none of these deliveries are done by car
TheToadLife t1_iz9n36x wrote
Just take out “for delivery and courier drivers”
Let the downvotes rain
shanninc t1_iz9s4i2 wrote
Bike curriers have been the backbone of this city throughout the history of modern industry.
Talk to anyone who worked in marketing or legal before the invention of the fax machine, as one example.
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Edit: Here's a NYT article from 1988 talking about the messenger industry https://www.nytimes.com/1988/08/16/business/the-messenger-business-far-more-than-bikes-now.html
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apupnamedscoob t1_iza8lfx wrote
You must not order doordash then.
apupnamedscoob t1_iza8o7i wrote
Why is this getting downvote lol
JohnQP121 t1_izaglet wrote
Have you ever been to outer boroughs?
chargeorge t1_izar9hr wrote
Plus you can hit a few cargo elevators lobbies with decent lunch spots in them!
HMEstebanR t1_izb2fvz wrote
Because it implies that regular working class New Yorkers actually drive, which is the polar opposite of the narrative that many in this sub live to push. That would be my best guess anyway.
elizabeth-cooper OP t1_iz7bhqa wrote
Based on: Congestion level (worst); Number of traffic jams (worst); Traffic jam length (worst); Hours lost during congestion (2nd worst after Chicago); Driving speeds (worst, tied with Philadelphia); Distracted driving fatalities (2nd worst after Chicago)