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They won’t.
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Restaurants, hospitals, schools...everything is going to be fucked if the water is compromised
To make soup? To cook pasta?
Flint Michigan managed.
Ice machines should get unplugged at midnight or earlier…
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I don’t think anyone knows at this point. They will make more announcements today after running more tests
Cooking food doesn’t use too much water in most cases, they will have a hard time cleaning those dirty dishes though…
Can’t see how they’ll be able to stay open unless they use disposable stuff. So the short answer is not long.
Someone on RRR said that the Wawa on Ridge won't have coffee today.
The devastation caused by lack of coffee will lead to protests. As soon as I am fully awake I'm organizing.
Did they tho
Making coffee does.
Not even in the affected area. So cringe
Even when the alert happened, the city said that dishes could be washed in the water - just not directly consuming it.
Sounds like bars and breweries will be open, though, plastic cups and tanks filled with water before midnight.
Ice is still an issue, will need to buy it
Hospitals most certain have the infrastructure in place for this type of emergency.
No ice in beer and wine, or if the ice box is big enough to hold a few days worth. But otherwise, yes.
Washing dishes is interesting -- there are different types of contaminants, but would anything contaminating remain on a dish after you wash and dry it?
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Cooking food uses a LOT of water in most cases. All of the stocks are made with water, all of the vegetables that have been blanched, poached, par-boiled, all pasta is cooked in water, anything steamed. It seems near impossible to run most kitchens in this city save for places that are pulling frozen food and deep frying it.
I was referring to restaurants not coffee places.
Maybe those ‘water protectors’ were on to something about water being invaluable
Except they didn’t, and begged for help throughout their crisis.
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Most likely they'll get a shit ton of ice delivered and store it in their walk-in's
Cooking food requires A TON of water. It could be a huge problem
Would this be in the form of reserve water supplies, water treatment equipment, something else?
I would imagine huge reserves.
>Cooking food doesn’t use too much water in most cases
Have you ever cooked anything in your life? Cooking requires a lot of water. Even at the home level- adding in restaurant level prepping and it's fucked.
Boiling/heating water kills bacteria and viruses, it does not remove particulate. PFAS, heavy metals, etc. to me, that’s more of a concern in this situation.
Vast majority of filters on the market will not remove the latex if they are made with PFAS. Something to keep in mind.
Are you saying you drink beer without ice??
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Probably a combination of those and they probably hold off anything elective until water is fixed
There’s many ways to mitigate water usage while cooking food. Frying, baking, grilling, sautéing, use little water.
Once again, I’m acknowledging the cleaning process of kitchen utensils and dishes is often where most of the water is used and a restaurants will not be able to go long with out it.
However for many dishes, not a huge amount of water is used.
If restaurants wanted to stay open, I’m sure they could take off items that use a lot of water to make…
They begged for water. Once they got bottles, they easily cooked pasta
They also couldn't just literally go to West Philly and drink tap water normally
Guess you weren’t paying attention
It’s recommended you don’t drink tap, not a requirement. There haven’t been any contaminates found
We just had extra cases of water bottles last night
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So all these sudden accidents with this chemical are just coincidence?
You overestimate the power of the average hospital.
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What kind of sick individual are you?
I’m convinced most of r/philly would die in an actual emergency even if there was a simple solution available
Yes, everything closed down. It’s a ghost town now.
Depends on where it is in the city. Is it in Manayunk, West Philly, or Chestnut Hill? It will probably be open. Is it anywhere else in the city? Don’t know.
At no point did I say the situations were the same, but reading is hard.
Also, it was lead, among other contaminants, in the water supply, which continues to poison residents to this day. Be best.
Not really. Deregulation has consequences.
I’m just saying there’s plenty of ways to make food without using a lot of water in the process. If you cook food, you’ll know there are hundreds of different ways to prepare every meal without water.
Look at all the food trucks and street vendors in the city. They all do it everyday without a line attached.
I’m not even disagreeing with people, yes, restaurants will be stained if the water is contaminated, I’m just literally saying dishes can be cooked with little water needed and certain restaurants can stay open, depending on what they are making.
I'm not up with world policies what do you mean deregulation? Like I understand what the word means just in the context of these spills.
Yep i had a reservation last night and when i called to check that's exactly what they said they were doing
Why are you asking Reddit. Call the restaurant.
These posts always intrigue me. Hate to break it to you, but this shit happened along the Delaware in a much more consistent (and hidden) basis during the time our parents and grandparents were alive.
While accountability to the culprits still needs significant improvement, the difference today vs the past is we have mechanisms that enable us to monitor water quality via advanced tech that would have tied the spill back to the plant eventually if they never spoke up. Also, having these devices in our pockets that let us know every facet in the world today no matter how big (chemical spill in water) or small (what color dump a kardashian took) has people dialed in for better or worse.
The world has always been a fucked up place, and for some people having access to information 24/7 has made people angry and paranoid. Imagine if twitter was around during world war 2, the imagery and content would have ruined humanity's soul forever
I agree. Plan or not, this has exposed how unready most of us are. We ain’t ready.
Honest question- have you ever worked front or back of house in a restaurant?
Oh I have an air fryer. Pretty much never use water to cook.
Reserve. Hospitals, assisted living center, and skilled nursing facilities are required to have on site water for 72 hours and a contract for a 1 month supply with a 3rd party supplier (typically sysco). These are rules baked into medicare/state law.
Switch to a restaurant in west Philly or manayunk. It’s a different water source so it’s safe!
So in what way did they manage?
To cook with bottled water.
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Truthfully, I can't speak to the situation locally, but in regards to the recent train derailment this is most comprehensive overview I can dig up:
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2023/03/how-deregulation-enabled-train-disasters-like-east-palestine/673502/
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my guess is the water supply remains drinkable and they don't issue an alert to stop using it
My tap made coffee from the north east side tasted suspect today. Could be psychosomatic but I also drink the similar coffee most daily
You can cook pretty much anything in stock vs water
You can buy stock.
At no point did I say it was a similar situation but reading is hard
Sounds like communism, imagine how much more profitable the hospitals could be without stupid useless regulations like this
“They also couldn't just literally go to West Philly and drink tap water normally”
Be best.
Well, if we didn't have these regulations, the hospital will totally 100% pass on the savings to you! That's how capitalism works, duh! /s if that was needed
Couldn't. As in could not. As in are not similar.
Be better.
You are comparing them in response to my comment, implying that I’m saying they’re the same. And let’s not forget the literal first thing you said on this thread.
“Flint Michigan managed.”
Be best.
My favorite story on this topic is that when the sugar tax went into effect, my employer "made up for it" by increasing the price of a 12oz iced tea by $0.70 to offset the $0.18 tax.
lol that wasn't me
be better.
You’re correct, you’re just the guy agreeing with that dude and downplaying the whole incident.
I'm downplaying the Philadelphia incident because it's much less severe than Flint because West Philly's water was not effected in any way and you could literally go to a bar in West Philly, buy a sandwich, and fill up a jug in the bathroom
From u/VeryStab1eGenius, in response to a question about how Flint “managed”:
“To cook with bottled water.”
Literally you, on the same thread, when I called out that dude by stating that they did not “manage”:
“They begged for water. Once they got bottles, they easily cooked pasta”
Just own what you said.
It's a joke. Begging for water obviously being a horrendous situation to find yourself in while living in the richest country in the history of human civilization and using bottled water to cook pasta obviously not acceptable or comforting in anywa way shape or form.
The joke is provided context by the second sentence which states that these situations are in no way comparable (referencing the OG comment that Flint managed) because the water in West Philly is totally fine.
Just call it “European night”
i'm confident all city offices and staff will be told to stay home no matter what!
Fair enough, but is there enough stock available for every restaurant to purchase enough of it to run a kitchen? Delivered in time? What’s the cost? I don’t think it’s as simple as “you can buy stock”.
I’d rather have a smaller menu then shut down, a lot of restaurants make their profit on booze
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I have reservations for a birthday dinner Tuesday. Will restaurants be open in the city?
Edit: The stuff that triggers Reddit never ceases to amaze me. I just asked the question to illustrate a potential problem that occurred to me based on my personal situation.