Do the dogs have to be 21 in human years or dog years to drink?

Actually humans have to be 21 in dog years. No idea how this idea passed legal.

Neighbors are excited to see all your bags of dog shit!

Sounds terrible

Don't go?

Never planned to. But there’s plenty of places I don’t plan to go to that sound terrible.

Is this a new concept or tried and true somewhere else? Just wondering, because if the dogs at this bar are anything like my friends dogs you’re going to have everything from sweet angels to literal nightmares occupying the same space, and I can see this going poorly.

Speaking as someone who owned a reactive dog- you don't take them to places like this. It's very stressful for "literal nightmares." Hopefully you notice that your friends with less than well behaved dogs don't take them to dog parks or areas where humans and dogs mix like this.

Oh I agree 100%, but in reality I rarely see that. It's usually the standard "I swear he/she never does that" when something inevitably happens. I wonder if they'll make people sign liability waivers?

I think your friends are just bad dog owners. There's an extensive community in Reddit for reactive and fearful and even mean dogs.

It's not just my friends. IMO, most dog owners are "bad" or even average dog owners at best. Covid-induced dog ownership hasn't helped.

You specifically mentioned your friends. You don't know most dog owners. I think maybe you're generalizing based on your friends

I also walk around the streets of Philly, but okay

Wow what a coincidence, so do I.

Was involved in the design & construction of a couple beer garden/dog parks in MD a few years back. You couldn't pay me to go to one of these places. I like dogs but I don't like every dog or most of the people who need to go to the bar with them.

I just got a license for my dog. Made a joke to the lady at the courthouse that my dog can now drive. She did not find it funny…

This place is going to be an unmitigated disaster. Unleashed, high density dogs and intoxicated owners…people already barely know how to act at the public dog parks in the city

Smells like a future pawsuit... but for real I can only see this ending badly. I love dogs just as much as anyone else but I've been attacked by them twice both without any instigation.

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I have a very well-behaved, well-trained, and properly socialized dog and I probably wouldn’t bring her here for the same reason I’m wary about most dog parks. I know her behavior and can control her but I’m not sure about other dogs and their owners. Even when I take her to a dog park that I trust I watch her like a hawk because you just don’t know the other dogs.

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Cool!

Tried and true in the south and places with more year round temperate climates. Check out Mutts Canine Cantina as a great example. Vaccinations/neutering is required and every dog has a profile, membership, and must check in at arrival.

The bottom line is, if your dog does not enjoy playing with other dogs, you simply do not bring them here.

Based on the post last week, my question - how is this legal? Did they get public health approval? Or will that be a little "oops" when they don't get their license.

Chaos. Humans. Dogs. Alcohol. Chaos. I love my dogs. I love dogs in general. They make human life unquestionably better. Is this really a good idea? Is this good for the dogs?

And most are bad dog owners. Honestly. I am far from a "good" dog owner, but most everyone else is worse.

Still trying to make this happen? This gun b gud...

Gotta hand it to the younger generations. How'd you turn kids and house being the norm to beer and dogs? remarkable.

i guess ask the 4 cat cafes in philly how they got their approvals?

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Because the dog park portion is outside?

Both this piece and the Inky's last week mentioned that they're working with the city for health and safety clearances... so it might not be greenlit just yet, but there's some provision that's coming.

Wow inexperienced dog owners and entrepreneurs.., what could go wrong? I had a dog when i lived in the south where we had wide open spaces, fields and places to hike. Dogs up here seem so pent up and badly behaved from tiny apartment living and minimal exercising. I no longer have a dog or desire to own one in this city, people are not responsible enough with their animals or respect other people and their property. I have spent minimal time dog sitting friends pooches and no longer do it after I saw how other dogs behaved. North Star was so bad ass in its day, sad to see it’s being yuppy-fied or should I say puppy-fied like this

Le Cat Cafe's use permit doesn't allow them to sell food/drink, for what that's worth. It's basically written as a cat boarding house. Big difference.

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Shitty owners and untrained dogs will lead to people and dogs getting into altercations. This is an idiotic idea and they will certainly run into problems.

I love bringing my dog to bars, while on their leash and sitting or standing right next to me. But having multiple dogs running around unleashed, while owners are looking away drinking, is just a disaster. This couple clearly did not think this through.

Have they had dogs before the doodle they probably bought from a puppy mill during peak covid?

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Aww man, remember North Star Bar

I have seen variations of this in other cities where it has worked well. Lucky Dog in Brooklyn is probably the closest, though this appears to be quite a bit larger. Dog PPL in Santa Monica is all-outdoor, but very much has the boozy bar scene vibe when you're there. I have also heard of similar places to this in Austin and Denver, but have not been there firsthand.

This model will get more and more popular as the 20-30 crowd (me included) are 'raising' dogs instead of children, and also not doing pretty much anything without a bar involved. It will all come down to how well they police the dogs and owners. Dogs add another variable, but it's one that can be controlled for and I've never actually experienced an issue in the countless hours I've spent across the two spots above.

For everyone questioning the model, there’s one of these in Atlanta I’ve been to and it’s been going strong for a few years now! It was surprisingly well behaved vs what I expected going in.

This

My brother lives in Chattanooga where they have a bar with a similar concept. They’re actually very good at enforcing a “three strikes” policy for the dogs for the reason you mentioned.

I was at the american sardine bar when a dog latched onto a child's ear and tore part of it off. This is dumb.

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I see that now. Previous articles didn't mention that, but I now see the line that they are "working with the health department..."

Ya, this is a thing I’ve experienced in Seattle. I went to two that were basically dog parks with a food truck that sells beer and cocktails. Think parks on tap with dogs everywhere. It was alright, more of a convenience for my friends who had dogs with them than anything

They gonna allow pits?

Good place to take a cat.