lupuscapabilis t1_j8mn7zj wrote
Reply to comment by NuggetMDr in Study finds link between ‘free sugar’ intake and cardiovascular disease by YoanB
Well hospitals are still overwhelmingly full of people who ignore this, so it doesn’t seem like it.
TenaceErbaccia t1_j8mpnzf wrote
It’s not people that ignore it so much as people who were never educated about reality. The type of people that believe diet soda, gatorade, and vitamin water are health drinks. Marketing and pushing sugar addiction has really done a number on people.
ffxivthrowaway03 t1_j8mwj8j wrote
Lets not put diet soda in the same category as gatorade/vitamin water and perpetuate the "diet soda gives you cancer/heart disease/whatever" misinformation. Diet soda is not a "health drink" by any measure despite "health food" already being a vague and meaningless term, but there's no free sugar (or any sugar) in it whereas drinks like gatorade are full of free sugars. This particular study isn't discussing sugar substitutes and their potential effects on long term health.
sadi89 t1_j8q29mf wrote
Thank you. This study is purely correlation. It’s not causation. Correlation can give a good place to start when looking for cause but they are in no way the same thing.
jakoto0 t1_j8myp3k wrote
But if you're not sedentary and just completed vigorous exercise, some electrolytes in the form of a sports drink for example might still make sense..
katarh t1_j8ni6jp wrote
My hour long resistance training session at the gym doesn't need gatorade, just some water and a good meal afterward.
That marathoner who is on mile 20 and has hit the wall, pushed through it, pooped himself, and is on the verge of passing out and is only still going due to sheer endorphins? Yep, electrolytes make a LOT of sense.
jakoto0 t1_j8nlpzk wrote
For sure, that's a stretch though. Any time of vigorous cardio or sport where you're sweating a lot.. I prefer mostly water but you're generally going to benefit from some electrolytes including sugars. Obviously best to get as much you can from normal diet
soaklord t1_j8sflx6 wrote
Electrolytes? Yes. Sugars? No. You are better off drinking pickle juice than any "electrolyte" drink. Gatorade, PowerAde, etc. are all full of free sugars. On both of my century rides (100 mile rides) I drank electrolytes in water and ate salty foods (ham and cheese). I did not need sugars to complete either of them.
jakoto0 t1_j8sl618 wrote
I guess it's worth noting that many sports drinks (including Gatorade & Powerade) have non-sugar or very little sugar options (gatorlyte I think?) that just have electrolytes. Completely agree with you though, just saying it's worth distinguishing from soda, for example.
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ffxivthrowaway03 t1_j8ndt5h wrote
Oh absolutely. We need some sugars in our diet, and the occasional gatorade is no more "unhealthy" than anything else. People just want to condense everything to "good" or "bad" as if there's no room for nuance when diet and health are so much more complicated than that.
SilentBeetle t1_j8o0oaf wrote
There is no dietary need for sugar. Our body DOES need glucose, but you don't need to eat sugar to get it.
Your body can and will make the glucose it needs from non-carbohydrate precursors.
ffxivthrowaway03 t1_j8o886v wrote
Given that this is /r/science, it's worth pointing out that glucose is a sugar.
We get enough sugars to sustain ourselves from natural sugars in the foods we eat and we don't need added sugars or "table sugar" to survive, but the sugars we need are still sugars.
SilentBeetle t1_j8oyz37 wrote
You pointed out that we need some sugar in our diet. Your body does not need to consume any sugar to survive. I'm well aware sugar has many forms.
ffxivthrowaway03 t1_j8rr3l4 wrote
If you want to get pedantically technical, we can say that you need to either consume the carbohydrates that will break down specifically into glucose or foods that directly contain glucose itself, but you can't survive with literally 0 glucose.
While we don't need to consume added sugars or already simple glucose, fructose, maltose, or sucrose, we must consume enough carbohydrates that will break down into glucose to support brain function.
Your words specifically were
>There is no dietary need for sugar.
Which is simply untrue, unless your making the argument that we could mainline glucose infused saline or something to avoid eating it, but that's silly.
SilentBeetle t1_j8spigl wrote
I'm not sure if you're intentionally missing the point, but the body does not need a dietary source of glucose to survive. Yes the brain needs glucose, but I'll say it again since it looks like you missed it.
Your body can and will make the glucose it needs from non-carbohydrate precursors.
grown t1_j8rvt58 wrote
He wasn't attacking you, don't double down on the spot you were specifically incorrect in.
SilentBeetle t1_j8sp55m wrote
I pointed out that we don't need sugar in our diet to survive. Can you explain what was incorrect about what I said?
Tikaped t1_j8prinu wrote
We do not need carbs but if you are going to have a healthy diet you will have no other alternative since I do not think popping pills count. But I would love to be proven wrong.
The imporantant point is there should be some room for nuance. When I was young there were litterly no obesy children at my school. Maybe one or two was slightly owerwight in every class. Despite that many ate candies every saturday. Some “free sugar” was not a problem then and does not need to be a problem today.
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