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LilyWhiteClaw t1_iu3ubod wrote

This post will get downvoted but the negative one from business insider will reach the top of the sub. The hate boner for this show on here is crazy.

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mrnicegy26 t1_iu3vb44 wrote

I don't really have any strong opinion on this show but it is fascinating how divisive it is overall. It doesn't seem to be an atrocity that its biggest haters claim it is, but it is also not the ultimate fantasy show that it's supporters claim.

Honestly for a show that is just 7/10, I don't get why it inspires so much passion on both sides other than the fact it belongs to the Lord of the Rings IP. And even then its not like its existence will somehow erase the existence of the original books or the Peter Jackson movies.

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RyanB_ t1_iu3xnq8 wrote

The opposite end is people gassing up HotD to the point where any criticism at all is going to be immediately controversial…

For my money they’re two flawed but overall pretty good shows that are ultimately very different, and as a fantasy fan I’ve thoroughly enjoyed having both. Just wish it was easier to have a good faith discussion about either online

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mrnicegy26 t1_iu3xy42 wrote

Game of Thrones fans on r/television are just so tiring. Its either the IP is ruined forever, it has no cultural impact, I would never watch GOT again or blind worship of it and blindly shitting on other shows. There is no nuance, no middle ground, it is either the greatest or the worst and nothing in between.

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RyanB_ t1_iu3y7oc wrote

That’s unfortunately been the trend for a lot of media discussion online, but yeah GoT shit is just on another level. And it just dominates the subreddit

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donkeylipsh t1_iu4wfm0 wrote

HoD was created in a lab by scientists to attract the kind of fan that drives social media engagement.

You put that level of production quality with episodes packed with dragons, nudity and violence and you get an absolutely rabid fanbase online.

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istandwhenipeee t1_iu69vxt wrote

The number of fans who are upset that RoP isn’t grimdark fantasy like GoT is insane to me. They’re not outright stating that, but a ton of the criticisms are over things like them not talking like real people, it lacking the pace and consistent drama of GoT/HotD, and it lacking realism in its battles and choreography.

If it went in that direction to satisfy those viewers it would cease to fit in the world Tolkien created. If that was the intention Amazon expressed i doubt they’d have even gotten the rights from Tolkien’s estate. Its fine to not enjoy Tolkien’s style, but a lot of people don’t seem to understand that something not being their preferred style doesn’t make it objectively worse.

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Charlie-Bell t1_iu3zn8m wrote

You're not allowed to appreciate and enjoy the fact that you have two high budget, large scale fantasy shows to enjoy. You must pick a side and gaslight fans of the other.

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frenz9 t1_iu425xn wrote

I mean for the most expensive tv show per episode, from one of the largest IPS known for its quality writing and world building people were expecting something amazing. The show was ‘ok’ but that’s well short.

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RecordEasy t1_iu4de1s wrote

It got Amazon exactly what they wanted. A lot of hype and increased traffic on prime video.

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ZachMich t1_iu4s0x0 wrote

> It got Amazon exactly what they wanted

It didn’t even come close. That’s why they’re desperately throwing out all kinds of articles simultaneously gaslighting, apologising and deflecting the opinions of this show.

Amazon and Bezos wanted GOT, they aren’t going to get it

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donkeylipsh t1_iu4vfks wrote

So all the articles you agree with are the truth, and all the articles you disagree with are gaslighting, apologizing and deflecting?

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Taureg01 t1_iu7opup wrote

It literally drove the highest number of subscribers to prime of any show they have made. Sorry this ain't failing.

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_Dreamer_Deceiver_ t1_iu6gat3 wrote

In inspires passion because some people think "LORD OF THE RINGS IS MY LIFE, HOW DARE YOU MAKE THIS CRAP, GANDALF IS SPELLED WITH A BIG G NOT A LITTLE G HOW COULD YOU NOT KNOW THAT I CANT BELIEVE " and the. On the other side "DONT TELL ME THAT MY TASTES ARE CRAP JUST BECAUSE YOU CANT LET GO, JUST LET ME ENJOY IT"

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Batman_The_Merciless t1_iu6ldti wrote

>Honestly for a show that is just 7/10, I don't get why it inspires so much passion on both sides other than the fact it belongs to the Lord of the Rings IP.

The insane production costs.

Before it premiered there was almost non-stop news about how much money was poured into it, and now that it’s all done and over with the most that people can really say is “yeah it’s average”.

I think people expected the dollar amount to show on screen and left disappointed, especially when HotD was airing at the same time with a significantly lower budget and was doing gangbusters critically and commercially. I don’t care either way, but from what I’ve read this seems to be the main subject of discourse.

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Shartbugger t1_iu4vmff wrote

It’s not divisive at all, it’s a very middling show and there are some very loud stans pretending it’s the subject of unjust persecution.

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metametapraxis t1_iu5wuo1 wrote

Could be that a lot of people just don't like it. That's OK, as it is OK that some people do.

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_Dreamer_Deceiver_ t1_iu6gjxs wrote

A lot of people like it, a lot of people also think it's just ok. But the vocal ones seem to be the ones that dispose it specifically because it's not the canon they know

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metametapraxis t1_iu7s0cz wrote

That honestly isn’t what I have observed. Most of the complaints I have seen largely are concerned with the quality of writing and storytelling.

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SunnyWynter t1_iu47zut wrote

I really have no idea where the hate for the show comes from. I already enjoy it much more than the movies.

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Shartbugger t1_iu4vi8e wrote

Here we go, Stans of the billionaire corporation’s latest lukewarm product saying everyone else is against them.

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LilyWhiteClaw t1_iu51o8e wrote

He w go, another weirdo online that thinks someone with a different opinion must be getting paid off

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Shartbugger t1_iu51xo3 wrote

Literally the first thing he does is make a typo and literally the second thing he does is a strawman.

Being a stan doesn’t mean you’re getting paid, Professor. It means you’re unreasonably supportive of something.

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wednesdayware t1_iu5vv3l wrote

And who is deciding what “unreasonably” supportive? Your grammar isn’t perfect either btw.

(Edit: then buddy decided to delete his posts and “block” me).

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ThreeLittlePuigs t1_iu41ps1 wrote

Yep, can’t be letting anyone read this objective article!! Must downvote and say the shows bad and literally no one watched

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