Another little known fact: if you say this in an actual courtroom, people don't appreciate the reference as much as I thought they would. Instead, they get angry. Dude, lighten up, your honor. LFMF.

Trimmed?

That's a pretty personal question, but yes. A landing strip at the moment if you must know.

Sideshow Bob said it best:

“You want the truth? You can't handle the truth! No truth-handler, you! Bah! I deride your truth-handling abilities!”

Wait how are you even on reddit. /s

You need to follow up with, "You're out of order! The whole trial is out of order!"

I served on a jury once, and the defense attorney came out and said, "You're not going to hear anyone in here say, 'You can't handle the truth!'"

I got the full amazon down there

I too am confused, if anything it's a longer sentence and the meaning is different.

>You're not going to hear anyone in here say, 'You can't handle the truth!'

Of course I know they will, it'll be me.

"... B-but sir you're just a jury memb-"

I SAID IT WILL BE ME WHO SAYS IT

When you say it out loud it flows better

So … intense logging operations?

I have to wonder if it even became annoying to him once it became an endlessly repeated cheap punchline like it did to the rest of us

You want answers?

Remember me my favorite judge quote: "Mister, we are not here to determine what is true or not."

I guess he will have to learn to handle that truth

Slash and burn mostly...mostly.

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Not one comment about the movie scene depicted? No one, really? When Harry Met Sally

I approve.

It's actually one syllable less, no? But trimming is definitely not the right word to use. It was a significant change in meaning and that's what makes it famous. Not that it's shorter.

It both does and doesn't change the meaning. It literally changes the meaning, but in context it means the same thing.

"You already have the truth" and "You can't handle the truth", in this context, tell them they already know what the truth is - They just have never been willing to accept it to this point.

But truthfully, it is shorter, and it flows a lot better in the revised version. "You already have the truth" just sounds so robotic.

Let the forest reclaim the land

That movie is a really bad example of courtroom behavior, let alone courtroom behavior under the UCMJ. The judge would not have allowed a fraction of Caffey's shit.

I mean, it was the food court, what did you expect? They only judge taste. Maybe presentation.

Saw a short on Youtube: ( https://www.youtube.com/shorts/teK_CFdc7gM ) with Matt Damon about how working with Jack Nicholson made him realize how being a writer can help you as an actor.

>the food court

"YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE FRUIT!"

It was adapted from the play by Aaron Sorkin. And with that line becoming better known than the movie or the play, I wonder if it has been inserted into the play now. It wouldn't be the first time something like that has happened. I actually missed a local production not too long ago so I can't say.

Disagree. You can't handle the truth more squarely puts the onus on them ignoring what's before their eyes. It's an accusation in itself. The context that comes loaded with that accusation is what gives the line its power.

Na, it wasn't such an important court or case.

It was just about children custody and whether one parent allegations of abuse were forged or not.

This. You know the truth, but you can't handle it, because you've never been on that wall. I ordered that boy beat half to death with soap wrapped up in towels because his departure would be bad for morale.

I can’t imagine Sorkin was too stoked about the most memorable line in the movie not being in the script either.

Simpsons are undefeated with their pop-culture references.

Try yelling both, it makes sense.

Wow. Is he a genius? For fuck sake, it's like celebrities are something special for doing something so menial.

It seems to me that for "You already have the truth" to be delivered effectively, it would need to given in a resigned manor. It doesn't fit the scene or the character.

There’s a couple of weird word choices here. “Boasted” is another. I blame ChatGPT

I heard Jeff Daniels on a podcast talking about how you do not change one word of Sorkin's dialogue (I guess when he's the director as well as the writer) because he doesn't allow it. He said, and I'm paraphrasing, the only time Sorkin allows an actor to do that is basically once they've been working with him so long their changes are basically the way Sorkin writes anyway.

Of course, Jack is Jack, so . . . what are you gonna do?

Came here for some interesting chat about cinema history.

Leaving with scars that not even industrial-strength mind bleach can deal with.

Thanks reddit!

I don't know...I always felt that Harry scene, while funny, was so out of character for Meg Ryan's "Sally." I honestly don't know anyone that would do that in a public place just to make a point. But Sally in particular struck me as way too prudish to do it. '

So it actually makes sense that it wasn't written in the script.

You must be great at parties

So every year you burn a lot of it off to prepare for harvest?

Trimmed? More like changed the meaning of it entirely.

Yeah, usually just take a lighter to it and just feather it, y'know. Fedsmoker Style

Now I'm imagining a once a year groom session

It’s kind of like “Failure is not an option.” From Apollo 13. It’s possibly the most famous line from the movie, yet Gene Kranz never said it. Didn’t stop him from using it as the title of his autobiography, though.

(The other famous line, “Houston, we have a problem.” was also never said in real life. Jim Lovell actually said, “Houston, we’ve had a problem.” or something very similar.)

Yeah that was weird- great scene but didn't they just spend like 20 minutes establishing that Sally has a huge stick up her ass at that point in life?

If you listen to the recordings from the mission it’s remarkable how calm and collected the astronauts were. I know it’s hard to overemphasize how much training they go through but still, I can’t imagine being understated while flying through space in a metal can that’s falling apart.

That’s not really trimming, it completely changes the meaning

>Caffey

Kaffee... I know, it's not important. :P

"Trimmed"

Wasn't this a play before it was a movie? What was the line in the play? The written line seems so weak-ass compared to the improvised one that I wonder if that written line is only from the movie script or if it's actually in the play.

Ah yes, "the movie"

It is 1 less syllable and 1 less letter, so what do yo mean by longer?

What I like about it is it established dimensionality to her character. She wasn’t a one note prude, she just wasn’t going there with Harry.

"Convicted of a crime I didn't even commit! Attempted murder, what is that? Do they give a Nobel Prize for Attempted Chemistry?"

Worst judges EVER!!

It looks like I'm sitting on Jerry Garcias face.

Nicholson's version is much catchier and the Disney version makes a nice earworm.

https://youtu.be/HaDfMjzroSo

Interesting. I always took "You can't handle the truth" to mean I'm deliberately not telling you the truth because you can't handle it. Sure, they've got all the evidence that points them to what the truth likely is, but it's not the same as being told the truth directly which confirm everything.

I seem to recall the Legal Eagle review of this had the guest military lawyer, who had served at Gitmo I think, say that wall is probably one of the safest, and subsequently boring, places to be in the world and absolutely nothing ever happens there.

“Better to die than to sound bad on the radios.”

I’ve seen this story over a dozen times on Reddit yet I’ll still reread it without fail.

Saved one whole syllable. Astounding efficiency.

Yes, except the same number of words, one of which is now a contraction.

Except for the defense attorney.

And in real life, that little tirade would have landed Nicholson in the little lock up room behind the courtroom.

>endlessly repeated cheap punchline

The only iteration of it that doesn't drive me crazy is in Rugrats in Paris, I think of this more often than the original.

But not in the mind of the dude who ordered the Code Red. What he considers a philosophy others might consider a sickness or an obsession. It's that belief that none of us are safe without the mean bastards. Of course he got what was coming to him.

Leslie Nielsen would be proud.

THANK YOU. Came here to say precisely this.

I'm partial to the version in The Big Hit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dke9xNlsWzY

I thought the Simpsons was the barometer on pop culture

emphasis on was

You can use facts to prove anything that’s even remotely true.

I strenuously object!

Well yes, but I still strongly object to the use of "trimmed".

People stay calm in an emergency when they have something to do.

YouTube has a bunch of ATC recordings with lines like “the cargo is on fire” and “the pilot’s dead” said in near-monotone, because the people saying them are too busy trying to not die to get all emotional. If you were in that situation, you’d be the same.

If you were sitting in the back though, with nothing to do but hope the people in the front solve the problem and wonder if maybe you should have driven, you’d be freaking the fuck out.

That happens in the movie too.

Improvised, or got his line wrong?

The full version of the story is so much better: https://youtu.be/4WRWl_1lC1Y?t=459

I’m sure he’s ok. And the most memorable line was clearly “…You? You Lt. Weinberg?”

But there was also a scene where they were exchanging anecdotes about their (terrible) first dates following difficult breakups, and she was mortified when he casually mentioned that he slept with his date anyway. And of course when they slept together when she was upset over her ex getting engaged, she thought it meant much more than he did. So to me she was portrayed as a "one note prude" ... except for that single "I'll have what she's having" scene.

No, she was just portrayed as someone who doesn’t have sex on the first date. I have friends who are long, happily married, and very faithful, who have filthy sense of humor. Heck, my last serious relationship, she would not even kiss me on the first date, and then ended up being the best sex of my life.

But the humor also comes from the incongruity. So if we set aside the real world and just look at the comedy, the fact that you spend the whole movie thing and she’s a prude and then she has this scene makes it funnier.

Did you order the Code Red?!

YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT I DID!!!!

How did this thread degenerate to a discussion on forestry? Or am I missing something ?

The movie is based on a play. In the play that character says “Because you can’t handle the truth.”