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OldMork t1_j1u04hh wrote

NZ and australia are places where politicians do weird stuff, I believe one aussie minister got some world record in beer drinking(?) another went for a swim and never came back.

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-B0B- t1_j1u04v3 wrote

I don't think politicians ever make decisions while sober

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monoped2 t1_j1udjia wrote

>another went for a swim and never came back.

And then they named a swimming pool after him.

Doing a Holt, or pulling a Harry Holt is also rhyming slang for bolting and leaving unannounced.

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VhenRa t1_j1ueick wrote

The schnapps election.

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dom65659 t1_j1ug11g wrote

Someone get Rishi Sunak a drink!

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IllegalTree t1_j1uqf0c wrote

> His party lost 10 seats.

But he couldn't remember what happened to them.

"I was very, very drunk," he was later quoted as saying.

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Ythio t1_j1uviln wrote

>another went for a swim and never came back.

Understandable, also happened to a triple king of Germany, Italy and Burgundy during a crusade.

Then again there are always overachiever like that one English duke that was sentenced to death by drowning in wine.

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RJWolfe t1_j1vvwnq wrote

He was just being Frank Sinatra, baby. Mid-way through a show, he started calling Australian journalists whores and all kinds of stuff.

I've been an asshole in my life, but I've never been a whole-country-hates-me asshole. So that's some solace, at least.

Edit: I should submit that, actually. You better not beat me to the punch!

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ZanyDelaney t1_j1vy67g wrote

Before becoming Prime Minister Bob Hawke was active in the Trade Union area and in that era drank a lot. While at university (in the UK) he had set a "world record" by skolling two-and-a-half pints of beer in 11 seconds. This was University College, Oxford and Hawke was a Rhodes Scholar. Pretty sure calling it a world record was a student joke.

Hawke gave up drinking when he went into politics in 1980 and did not drink while he was PM. He started drinking again after leaving politics in 1993.

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AdminsAreLazyID10TS t1_j1vzg14 wrote

That's called the Holy Roman Emperor my guy

Literally the most famous one, too, the definition of BDE Frederick Barbarossa himself, more or less the German King Arthur, once and future king, uniter of Germany type stuff.

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goteamnick t1_j1w5s3r wrote

I love watching the press conference announcing the election. He looks like he could topple over at any moment.

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Partly_Dave t1_j1wgyko wrote

He spoke at our school, while he was a Minister. I was probably 11 or 12 and knew nothing about politics but afterwards thought why would anyone vote for this guy. They did though.

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atomicxblue t1_j1wl1gi wrote

Guess drinking on the job will get you fired.

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spicynicho t1_j1wmu56 wrote

He came up with the great line that a Kiwi moving to Australia raises the intelligence levels of both nations.

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Things103 t1_j1yai37 wrote

I don't quite think that was it.

Neo-liberalism was still only starting to get a foothold in the UK/USA with Thatcher and Reagan. It just wasn't really a thing when he was in power.

He had some massive ideas - but also worked the government to give himself as much control as possible; being both Prime Minister and Minister of Finance (usually two rather separate positions) - This was bad when he started putting in price freezes, and massive policies that basically bankrupted the country... But also largely hid it from the public. Lange the incoming prime minister later stated that it was kept from the public how close we came from just defaulting on all loans - the selling of assets came from a necessity to get investment into the country.

The other thing that cost him was infighting in his party - particularly the younger MPs with more liberal ideas (such as Nuclear free NZ) and his decision to not have a position on it. - Whereas the incoming stamped themselves as 'Nuclear Free' which was a fairly popular movement. He just didn't seem to believe in those more social policies where the public did, He had a similar reaction to the Springbok tour in 1981.

There is an fantastic series on the Neo-liberalism change in New Zealand called revolution - the first episode deals a lot with Muldoon and what New Zealand looked like under him "Fortress New Zealand" (and why there was a change afterwards)

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raytaylor t1_j1ygz78 wrote

I have watched that documentary a couple of times and I absolutely love it.

The think big projects are what I mean by good ideas. Especially the dams, steel and aluminuim facilities (that provided employment and cheaper goods for many years).

But the tinkering with the economy and fucking over the balance of payments wasnt helpful. Though I think he genuinely was trying to help the working people in the short term but couldnt handle the decisions that needed to be made for the long term solution.

Now New Zealand is seen as a champion of economic shift where we went from one of the richest in the 1950's
to almost bankrupt in the 80's because muldoon and co. were still thinking with ideas from the 50's
and now to one of the best performing economies in the world again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INyMYy-QjxM
This video is also a good watch

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tombot776 t1_j277wfe wrote

I think you mean former prime minister. The current one is much, much smarter.

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