Jibber_Fight t1_jakb6j5 wrote
Ya ya jokes about he’s filthy rich, blah blah. But the surgeons did do a great job.
foodishlove t1_jal65dh wrote
I give him credit, he was back up and making jokes about it in no time. Whatever else you wanna say about the guy he is a straight up baller when it comes to flipping a switch and putting on a show no matter what he is going through.
jpop4 t1_jaly194 wrote
Geez he’s a terrible driver
Folsomdsf t1_jamfy9b wrote
He drives too many cars most likely is the cause of this. He was pulling in forward into a spot pretty tight. He was unfortunately in a tesla which are generally poor in the maneuver compared to what he likely drives. REmember he drives from antique Model T's all the way up to a modern porsche. The tesla is likely still the worst at that maneuver from his normal drivers. Small mistake, barely a little paint scrape.
Skeptical-_- t1_jan0v3r wrote
This plus he’s 72, still seems pretty sharp but stuff happens
Swagaru t1_janw3th wrote
If he drives that many cars, he should be a better driver not worse. How would driving more cars make him a worse driver?
TheBigBadPanda t1_jaqhr1z wrote
Not all cars gandle the same at high speed. Good habits for how to round a corner quickly with most cars can lead to disaster with a particular car with otver characteristics
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keepyeepy t1_jandey2 wrote
I bet you can't even drive manual, let alone the steam cars he masters. Get over yourself.
Krambazzwod t1_jawn83c wrote
Just saw a thing in the local news that he is performing at a college in Senatobia, Mississippi this weekend…obviously the guy simply LOVES performing for people.
Sendstorepatter t1_jaljxly wrote
He's an entertainer and have been for 35 years or more? Would he wake up from surgery and be a different person?
DanklyNight t1_jalr366 wrote
Depends if Nicholas Cage was around at the time.
gazwel t1_jalt317 wrote
He'd like to take his face off
Hazardbeard t1_jamy4k1 wrote
After having his entire face and ear burnt off? Yeah bud, that happens a lot, it’s called PTSD.
lllNico t1_jalt7uk wrote
the jokes aren’t really an attack on him. tge american healthcare system is broken and this is the perfect example of it. Your income should have NOTHING to do with the treatment you are getting.
Jibber_Fight t1_jalvj0i wrote
Oh for sure! I just meant objectively, they did a great job.
SkyNightZ t1_jamba1l wrote
Well now...
Income should have an impact on the level of treatment you can get.
Buuut, income shouldn't stop you from getting a very satisfactory baseline of healthcare.
Are you going to make it illegal for private hospitals to exist?
Everywhere with public healthcare still has private healthcare. The American talking point of either or is dumb.
ImmenatizingEschaton t1_jamgdkz wrote
Nuance? Sir, this is Reddit, where capitalism is bad, brought to you by a tech company owned by the CCP but IPOing on Wall Street.
lllNico t1_jamec5z wrote
that would mean some treatments would be unatainable for some people, which is unacceptable. This is also a problem in almost all countries today, so not just america.
TheSausageKing t1_jamm0xe wrote
I don't think the most advanced plastic surgery needs to be available to all people.
Jay Leno is a talk show host and his appearance is important for his career and for everyone that works for him. I'm a programmer. If I get 3rd degree burns, I don't need the $1m latest cutting edge, option. Take care of the burns, minimize the scars as best you reasonably can, and that's ok.
And realize that by paying for the very advanced, $1m option, Jay is helping to advance that technology and it will become cheaper over time.
DeathMetal007 t1_jamygpz wrote
You deserve what Leno gets buddy. If he gets plastic surgery, then you should too. And his rich ass should pay for it
lllNico t1_jamppsh wrote
the problem is that you think it actually costs 1 mil, but go off defending the broken system boo
Hazardbeard t1_jamyqr5 wrote
Exactly how much do you think the time of a team of world class specialist surgeons and everyone assisting them is worth? Nothing?
lllNico t1_jamzjpc wrote
at 10.000$ per hour, they would have 100 hours to do the surgery to hit 1 million. I very much doubt it would take them 100 hours and i very much doubt their hourly wage, even at that super high level you are talking about, is 10.000$/hour
Hazardbeard t1_jan0fxz wrote
And, let’s keep going here, do you think those are the only costs involved in entirely replacing a human’s face? Equipment. Supplies. Finite materials. A place to do it that someone had to spend several hundred million dollars to build. The diagnostic work and preparation beforehand, as the surgeons planned what to do and the teams got things ready. His recovery.
Until we get matter replicators, I’m sorry, but some things are going to be inherently resource heavy to do regardless of whether we choose to assign a currency value to it or not.
lllNico t1_jan2zak wrote
oh sorry, yeah i forgot they only do it once and then blow uop the building. my mistake
Hazardbeard t1_jan3bog wrote
How many surgeries do you think have to be done before the facility has paid for itself?
heroinsteve t1_jan4zaz wrote
To be fair, every hospital bill I've received I feel like I was being charged for the construction of the building as well.
Inflation-nation t1_jamz8ps wrote
That's completely unrealistic.
lllNico t1_jamzoex wrote
why?
SkyNightZ t1_jamgxul wrote
Not all treatments are affordable though.
It's a pipe dream.
A benefit of a private public split is it allows private clinics to spend loads of money on relatively new technology and overtime demonstrate and prove efficacy as well as allow the initial R&D costs to be absorbed by them.
Then once the treatments are affordable they can drop down into the public system.
To say everything must be public immediately ignores the obvious reality that the governments pockets are not infinitely deep and when there is no profit incentive some things just won't get researched.
Take skin grafting as an example. It's cosmetic surgery at the end of the day. A government isn't going to invest in getting people trained for such a procedure.
But private will because people would pay to look 'normal'.
Now that the people are trained on skin grafting and the technology is common, public healthcare gets to take advantage.
You would hurt the overall level of care by being driven by an end goal of wanting everything to be available to everyone.
Sure, can be done but compared to before there would be less procedures possible.
lllNico t1_jams234 wrote
oh you sweet child, sure they are spending the profits on new treatments, sure they are... ;)
SkyNightZ t1_jamyzny wrote
In a private only model sure, it sucks.
but everywhere with public and private that is literally how it works.
Don't "sweet child" me when you clearly have no idea how the system works.
lllNico t1_jamztc5 wrote
it doesnt work like that tho
SkyNightZ t1_janculh wrote
It literally does. Like your pulling this out of thin air.
Guess which one of us works in the pharmaceutical research business and who doesn't.
The government can afford some research, but it wants to see maximum patient impact.
That means diseases that effect a small percentage of the population get less funding.
However to private investors those diseases can be incredibly lucrative.
So private funds research in those areas more than public. Then overtime (because most of these ventures go nowhere) the successful treatments make their way to the top and get more development.
This is early stage vs late stage research.
The government is more willing to help fund late stage research because its more viable. But without the early stage research there is no late stage.
I've simplified the process but if you did the most basic level of research you would see what I'm saying is true.
What you have is an IDEA, and you are hoping against reality that your idea is true. It simply isn't.
uma_sherbet t1_jamdefg wrote
Assuming that people want things to be illegal, as opposed to unnecessary.
garry4321 t1_jamj26j wrote
In the civilized world it doesnt.
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lllNico t1_jamrtos wrote
You jump from country to country like a travel show on Netflix. Calm down jetsetter.
how about we forget about specific systems from countries for a sec. There are a million different systems. In germany it's all private insurance companies, but heavily restricted by the gov, so actually not private at all. I am sure Finnland has thousands of weird quirks aswell as America. The point is this, if you have insurance and pay for it your whole life, then the cost of treatment should not matter. You have already paid for it every month you were alive.
if i get sick and there is a way to treat my sickness, i would like them to do that. My health insurance should pay for the treatment.
Same with physical injuries. If i burn my face off and there is a way to restore it, then i would very much like that. There is absolutely no reason to make this an income issue. Everyone pays health insurance for this exact case. In case of a health problem, i have the insurance that i will get adequate help.
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Bonejack84 t1_jamb2m1 wrote
There's a skin gun that uses stem cells to reverse the damage done by burning. Heals 3rd degree burns in 72 hours.
Tomdoerr88 t1_jamv95g wrote
“We’re sorry but that’s not covered by your policy, instead we can offer to spit on it and a high five”
ElysiumAB t1_jan2cee wrote
Didn't expect the handle "BoneJack" to make a serious post on what a "skin gun" does.
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Hazardbeard t1_jamyb1k wrote
That’s crazy. I once did something incredibly stupid and wound up with second degree burns on my thumb and that shit took forever to heal and still looks a little funny ten years later. Stem cells are the shit.
Winjin t1_januon6 wrote
All the money in the world can only get you as far as the modern edge of science can go, anyways.
But I gotta say, modern combustiology (that's the science of burn treatment doctors) is a wonderful thing. They do what was wonders just years ago.
thobek t1_jaq3l0y wrote
Yeah money allows you to have the best. Those surgeons wouldn't of been cheap. I have friends in high places and they get looked after every year because of their position. They get the best. As long as they are making big profits the boards pay to make sure they are healthy.
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