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jubza t1_iy3nm91 wrote
Türkiye is far more important than the other two combined
DasKleineFerkell t1_iy3o154 wrote
Strategically speaking, turkeys only value is a border to Syria (which they've been abusing) amd the Bosporus...
Both easy problems to solve... erdogan isn't worth it...
In light of revolts in Iran and china... if I was emperor erdogan I would be worried
Edit , edit... unless you're referring to Turkeys textile business.... you can replace e that ez as pie
tilker17 t1_iy3p970 wrote
This might be the shallowest politic analysis I've seen for a while.
Domeee123 t1_iy3q8j1 wrote
Iran and China does not have revolts lol.
Mirathecat22 t1_iy3sit9 wrote
Iran absolutely does
CarpeNoctome t1_iy3zr0j wrote
you seem to be oblivious to the fact that turkey controls the most strategic city in the world
Tussen3tot20tekens t1_iy41cde wrote
By just reading the title you can tell OP is Turkish. Because that’s not how you spell Turkey in English.
Edit. TIL the was a name change in May 2022. Sorry I was not yet aware of this. And by OP I thought I was referencing to the article, by the same title.
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Loltty t1_iy43j7t wrote
But Turkey fits so well! Their president looks like a Turkey, and even have the same intelligence as one!
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Copeshit t1_iy448z1 wrote
> Strategically speaking, turkeys only value is a border to Syria
redditors lmao
Tussen3tot20tekens t1_iy44fqp wrote
Per 21 May 2022. TIL. You rude person.
PublicFurryAccount t1_iy44yjt wrote
Probably not, no.
Controlling entrance to the Black Sea hasn't really been relevant since the 1980s because the Aegean is just as much a shooting gallery for modern ASMs and Turkey's ability to actually accomplish that control is questionable against any actual adversary, including Russia.
Zhukov-74 OP t1_iy46zhd wrote
>By just reading the title you can tell OP is Turkish
I am afraid you are wrong.
Divinate_ME t1_iy49374 wrote
Reminder that when I as a Kraut am forced to call Weißrussland Belarus instead, it's perfectly fine to expect from Anglos to use the term Türkiye instead of Turkey.
itsFelbourne t1_iy49wi0 wrote
Begging is getting to be Turkey's primary pastime eh?
Zaglossus_hacketti t1_iy4b6pn wrote
What if I call WeiBrussland Turkey, and Türkiye Belarus instead
WorldsBestPapa t1_iy4bexd wrote
The name of the country in Turkish has changed. Do you see people in the Anglo sphere calling Germany Deutschland ? No, because Germany is the English work for Deutschland. Turkey is the English word you daft idiot. I’m really not sure why redditors have such a hard on for the Turkey name change.
UnlikelyRabbit4648 t1_iy4bwv3 wrote
Terrible journalism, spelt Turkey wrong.
Divinate_ME t1_iy4c62d wrote
I can weib with that
monkeygoneape t1_iy4f3d0 wrote
As important as their position is, a nato base in Helsinki basically turns st Petersburg into a front line
jubza t1_iy4fiw8 wrote
If you're focus is on Russia then yes it's quite important but still not as important as holding the Black Sea.
Plus, Turkey is the entry point to Africa and Asia
monkeygoneape t1_iy4g31k wrote
Like I said, wasn't downplaying turkey's geographical location, but with Russia being the aggressor at the moment, that does make them the bigger threat at the moment so being able to be in striking distance of one of their most important urban centres shouldn't be downplayed either, and doesn't the Suez kind of negate the black sea if we're talking shipping specifically?
Lurkinforfun702 t1_iy4khob wrote
Why is Turkey the only word in Turkish while the rest of the sentence is in English?
Superbassio t1_iy4l32c wrote
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/2/un-registers-turkiye-as-new-country-name-for-turkey
Pretty sure Türkiye has always been the Turkish name. It is now also the English official name. I'm not sure why redditors have such a hard time using Google.
mrObelixfromgaul t1_iy4lu9e wrote
I will call Turkey the right way only if it allows Finland and Sweden with nato. Other wise it is going to be 🦃
mrObelixfromgaul t1_iy4mgcx wrote
Ah don't worry, as a citizen of the Netherlands we know what you going through. Perhaps if el presedente will changes his mind over Finland and Sweden we could perhaps tember it correctly
Buff_Dodo t1_iy4p1yp wrote
Because the country formerly known as Turkey asked the world to use the Turkish name even when talking about the country in English. They don't want to share their name with a fat bird.
Matthiey t1_iy4pbys wrote
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey
They have officially changed their name to "Turkiye" or the "Republic of Turkiye" about a year or two ago. They are strongly pushing other countries to refer to them as such.
Yes, I am aware that the wiki article says "Turkey" in the headline.
Tussen3tot20tekens t1_iy4qdn3 wrote
If you read the whole article it states that the UN complied with the change at their request in may 2022. (And that newspaper is a Tükiyeish? Government supported news outlet.
stillestwaters t1_iy4qig0 wrote
Didn’t Turkey declare that was the proper way to spell it now? Just because I can’t be bothered to do it doesn’t mean we can’t respect them spelling their nation how they want.
susiiswihzhdhshs t1_iy4qy16 wrote
Just say Turkiye then if it upsets you so much.
Richard7666 t1_iy4t91u wrote
In English you'd be expected to call it Belarus. In English you'd be expected to call Turkey/Türkiye Turkey.
CallMeLittleHardDad t1_iy4xlx6 wrote
I can, since it's weird to single out one country to suddenly start spelling in a bizarre new way for no real reason.
havok0159 t1_iy4xorv wrote
They can ask all they want. You can't reasonably expect people speaking about your country in English to start using letters not present in English. You won't see me asking people to write România and not Romania even though they sound quite different and would spare us a lot of misidentification issues with the Romani (which btw is a far worse problem than being associated with a bird).
Take a more recent example with Kyiv/Kiev. Imagine if instead of Kyiv, Ukrainians would have been asking us to call it Київ.
CallMeLittleHardDad t1_iy4xy4c wrote
That's because you're not speaking German when you call it Belarus.
stillestwaters t1_iy51oht wrote
I mean it’s their country and their government; I don’t think it matters either way how we spell it. If they want to spell it differently then why should we care?
war_story_guy t1_iy522jb wrote
Gonna be back peddling soon if they try and extort them.
Matthiey t1_iy52e8m wrote
Every letter is available to you: T U R K I Y E. You don't need the accents or dots that aren't available in english. In fact that is how it is written at the UN.
Actually_JesusChrist t1_iy52u2f wrote
Not really bizarre when that’s how they write “Turkey”.
BusinessTour8371 t1_iy54s08 wrote
"How many Kurds would you be ok with us murdering without you saying a word?"
colonel_itchyballs t1_iy54vs1 wrote
demand visa free please I want to go to uppsala and give my respect to odin
who_even_reads_this t1_iy57oyc wrote
Côte d'Ivoire have requested the same, so not without precedent. I think most still say Ivory Coast or Turkey though
WorldsBestPapa t1_iy5aw9q wrote
It is the official English name…according to Turkey - which has no bearing whatsoever on how English speakers use the language.
c0224v2609 t1_iy5k94h wrote
Well, okay then. From now on, I want Finland to be called Suomi and Sweden Sverige. And while we’re at it, Greenland will from now on be referred to by its Greenlandic name Kalaallit Nunaat.
thermalhugger t1_iy5kjr4 wrote
Right way?
No country can force another country's language.
Much_Chipmunk4230 t1_iy5lkwr wrote
Dude, this is reddit.
Your name is now Steve, this is what I will call you and you can’t do jack shit, Steve.
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TROPtastic t1_iy60u8o wrote
If that was the official position of Finland and Sweden's governments, that would happen quickly enough.
TROPtastic t1_iy610np wrote
A long time, considering that Turkey is very valuable geopolitically. Probably longer than Erdogan will remain in power.
Upsidedown_boat t1_iy6bb3c wrote
Says the fat extinct bird
myles_cassidy t1_iy6bn7u wrote
Countries should be able to choose what they want to be called
IndependentCharming7 t1_iy6eggd wrote
I'm no geologist but at some point the Bosporus changes due to plate tectonics right?
MinuteManufacturer t1_iy6gcfm wrote
Gobble gobble mother ducker
stillestwaters t1_iy6j009 wrote
Sure, if Finland, Sweden, and Greenland wanted that - then why would it be a problem? I doubt most people would abide by it, but why would anyone care what they call themselves?
skidoo1033 t1_iy6r7oh wrote
How about we just boot Turkey out and add Sweden and Finland?
ludi_literarum t1_iy6s10c wrote
In a debate round years ago I once suggested the formation of LABRAT: The League of Anybody But Russia And Turkey.
CallMeLittleHardDad t1_iy6u7ex wrote
But it's not how anyone writes it in English.
h8newslettersm8 t1_iy6uk7w wrote
Your false narrative is disgusting. Türkiye's biggest metropolitan city İstanbul is home to 2 million Kurds, how would even this country be stable if it were killing Kurds based on their ethnicity? For the last fucking time it is Turkish Armed Forces vs PKK and affiliated groups not Turks vs Kurds. I am a Turk and my wife is a Kurd and our children, if we decide to make babies, will be mixed. What the fuck are you talking about? These Reddit woke simpletons who know nothing about Anatolia really get on my nerves.
BusinessTour8371 t1_iy6z4hv wrote
> how would even this country be stable
It isn't
Santos_L_Halper_II t1_iy700kx wrote
I think the world should politely but firmly respond with “no, we’re not going to do that.”
ExplosiveDiarrhetic t1_iy72wu8 wrote
However justified that might be, turkey is a major regional power and have the keys to the black sea
ExplosiveDiarrhetic t1_iy72z13 wrote
Throw serbia and hungary in there. LAB TRASH
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ExplosiveDiarrhetic t1_iy734o4 wrote
Thats like millions of years
IndependentCharming7 t1_iy746yr wrote
Looks like the Kurds are gonna get sold out again then.
Professional_Day2626 t1_iy78r5m wrote
I belive that the terror in turk because of they did not trust erdogan to lead their country since the inflation is going to the moon, but erdogan belive that he might be a prophet
evdog_music t1_iy7fphn wrote
geopolitics_irl
TerpenesByMS t1_iy7id5s wrote
This example is nuts and i'm only using the names for the example, no shade intended, bear with me:
Imagine that in America, Presbyterian churches in New England were also a giant communist mafia that killed cops and civilians and blew stuff up, while running scammy businesses everywhere. Factor in that a mostly-friendly country just gave their Canadian counterparts a big heap of guns and grenades to fight against the Westboro Baptist Church neo-crusader extremists that were beheading people in now-lawless and war-torn Canada, and those guns are trading hands with the (fictional) Presbyterian mafia who are ramping up the violence and threats.
Now change Presbyterians to PKK, WBC to ISIS, Canada to Syria, and America is Turkiye. This is what Turkiye is dealing with, in a weird metaphorical nutshell.
Seriously, stable or not, Reddit needs to figure out how actually tolerant most of Turkiye's citizens are, it's tiring seeing all the uneducated vitriol.
suomikim t1_iy7oil8 wrote
Suomi is Suomi. And all y'all idiots call us Finland.
So no... other languages and countries pick what name they want to call another country. And there's not much anything Finland or anyone else can do about it.
(Obtw... in revenge, we've chosen our own names for all the rest of y'all. So:
Germany....................Saksa
France........................Ranska
Greece.......................Kreikka
United States............Yhdysvallat
Sweden....................Routsi
And we're not changing them back until all y'all call us by our rightful name: Suomi !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
/this post written under the influence of salmiakki infused Finlandia vodka :P
suomikim t1_iy7p2ex wrote
so they really don't mind if i don't use the u with two dots over it? tbh, that makes it fall from 'are you completely serious" to... oh, Turkiye? Okay, no problem.
CuntWeasel t1_iy7ttfo wrote
That’s not how it works though, for several reasons.
BusinessTour8371 t1_iy80wzy wrote
What a dogshit analogy lol
Matthiey t1_iy81dbi wrote
Pretty much.
Livio88 t1_iy8f945 wrote
Why would they ask permission from two Scandinavian countries for that? Even the US can’t say shit about it.
And it seems like there’s millions of middle class Kurds living in Turkey and they’re also serving in the turkish military. No one’s buying the narrative that it’s just Turks against Kurds as a monolith.
Livio88 t1_iy8fsgi wrote
Great idea! Who’re we gonna rely on for the safety of the Black Sea then, genius?!
skidoo1033 t1_iy8i9ik wrote
Seems super safe now....
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Buff_Dodo t1_iya391p wrote
Who are you calling extinct buddy? I'm right here ya know!
autotldr t1_iy3metd wrote
This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 77%. (I'm a bot)
> Türkiye, Sweden, Finland to discuss NATO bids in Bucharest.
> "We will meet with Sweden and Finland's foreign ministers tomorrow in Bucharest under a trilateral format," Çavu?o?lu said Monday as he spoke to a group of reporters after a joint press conference with his Turkmen counterpart in Ankara, private Turkish broadcaster NTV reported.
> "Sweden and Finland are yet to take concrete steps under the trilateral memorandum," the minister said Monday, noting that Sweden especially needs to make more of an effort to implement its promises.
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