Artanthos

Artanthos t1_jddnbav wrote

The real question is what, if any, resources will be available beyond the basic necessities.

Most forms of entertainment want you to pay for them in some way.

Advertising won’t be an option if the government is directly providing necessities. You have no income, so you are not a potential customer.

No subscriptions, you have no money to spend.

So, options will be limited to available resources and activities that require no resources. E.g. you could meditate, do pushups, or interact socially with your immediate peer group.

Hopefully at least some form of enlightenment will be provided. This may include TV lounges, ping pong tables, sports, etc. All fairly low budget.

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Artanthos t1_jdcumm1 wrote

Your arguments apply equally to health care, social security, Medicare/Medicaid, etc.

A lot of these programs are already underfunded to the point that they are expected to collapse in the next decade.

These are programs that are aimed squarely at helping the lower and middle classes.

And all is takes is the mention of raising taxes to change election outcomes.

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Artanthos t1_jdauvvo wrote

I highly doubt the government is just going to start handing out cash.

It's not how welfare is handled today, and today's welfare programs will be the model any future benefits are based off of. With the realization that there will be a very strong incentive to find cost savings as the scale and scope increases.

Today's welfare systems uses food stamps (EBT), WIC, subsidized housing (I've seen as low as $25/month, all utilities included), and even clothing vouchers for kids going to school.

The natural progression for cost saving is not giving cash instead of necessities, it's using economies of scale. The military provides models for cheaply housing and feeding large numbers of people, and I believe that is the direction government will move to save money.

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Artanthos t1_jd9qphg wrote

Alternatively, UBI could be in the form of goods, not money.

People could be moved into massive dormitories, eat in cafeterias, and be issued basic clothing.

Population would then be centered within these dormitories and be very high density while being much more cost efficient for the government.

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Artanthos t1_jd399lm wrote

I don’t disagree.

But if it comes down to a question of survival and it’s too late for other options, this is the fail safe.

It will cause problems, including acid rain. It will have free riders, it will reduce food production due reducing sunlight, and it will disrupt global weather patterns.

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Artanthos t1_jcbj29j wrote

For some reason this made me think of the sword Wayfinder from the Book of Swords.

It could show you the way to anything that was or could be. Even immaterial or subjective things like love or the perfect woman.

The sword was infallible, but it always pointed out the most difficult path.

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Artanthos t1_jaf1byp wrote

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/hyperloop-latest-innovation-pretty-much-series-of-tubes-180955735/#:~:text=The%20hyperloop%20was%20originally%20proposed,startups%E2%80%94seized%20on%20the%20idea.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperloop

> The Hyperloop, in the initial form proposed by Musk, differs from vactrains by relying on residual air pressure inside the tube to provide lift by aerofoils and propulsion by fans.

Earlier tube systems used pneumatics and had speeds closer to 60mph.

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Artanthos t1_jaexshl wrote

This sounds like a great first problem for AGI/ASI

If the task is beyond human intelligence, make solving one of the fundamental purposes of the AGI/ASI.

The more the AI grows, the better it gets at alignment.

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