Lauren Cohan (Maggie) and Jeffrey Dean Morgan (Negan) are starring.

I don't think anyone else from the announced cast is from any prior TWD show.

I liked it but I don't feel any real hook into the next season, tbh.

Most big prestige shows, when S1 ends I'm chomping at the bit to get to the next season.

IMO the finale was relatively weak (it was a good hour of TV it just didn't really hit me emotionally ... I thought it was oddly paced and structured) so that's probably part of it.

Nothing to do with him liking LotR. It's about Amazon's capacity to eat losses in the short term to drive long-term growth.

> neglecting the sharp decline of viewers once people realized the show was terribly made.

> People watched and the majority stopped watching

> So you’re completely missing the fact that the show had huge drop off

> Your grabbing onto the initial hype of the show and forgetting the downward spiral the show had after the initial release lol

Here are the Nielsen ratings by week. RoP released 2 episodes on 9/1/2022 and then one episode weekly through 10/14/2022.

Week ending 9/4: 1,253 million minutes

Week ending 9/11: 1,203 million minutes

Week ending 9/18: 988 million minutes

Week ending 9/25: 977 million minutes

Week ending 10/2: 966 million minutes

Week ending 10/9: 988 million minutes

Week ending 10/16: 1,137 million minutes

I don't see this "sharp decline" or "huge dropoff" and certainly no evidence that "the majority stopped watching".

The Boys also had 24 episodes available.

Fantasy is an absurdly expensive genre to produce, especially with audience expectations these days that TV shows should look just as good as movies.

Not much chance of studios dumping hundreds of millions into projects that don't have built-in audiences or name recognition.

> Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I didn't think the show sucked as hard as people seem to think.

It was mostly just boring IMO. But I thought the end of the season was really strong.

Fantasy fans are the absolute worst as far as fandoms go, though, so no surprise at the hate.

The Top-15 Streaming Originals was 13 Netflix shows and 2 Prime shows (The Boys and RoP).

The 2021 list was 12 Netflix shows, 1 Hulu show (The Handmaid's Tale), 1 Disney+ show (Wandavision), and 1 Apple show (Ted Lasso).

Making the top-15 at all is a success for any provider not named Netflix IMO.

GoT was a watercooler show, so no, not sure it's obvious.

No it isn't.

Reacher ... with an 8.1/10 on 132,000 reviews on IMDb, and a 92% critic score and 91% audience score on RT?

Don't know what that's got to do with anything, though. Nick Santora is the showrunner on Reacher and he has no involvement in Citadel. Citadel was originally headed by Josh Appelbaum and Andre Nemec, but they got into a spat with the Russo Bros and now David Weil is running it along with the Russos.

Well they were originally just producing Citadel AFAIK, and then swooped in and shitcanned the writers/directors and took over the project themselves.

I think the Butch Cassidy show is the same deal, the Russo's are EPs but they're not currently attached as writers or directors on it.

They've got a bunch of projects currently ongoing, including The Electric State for Netflix which they are directing.

It seems like Amazon has found a gap in the streaming market for the so-called "dad shows", and they're hitting it hard.

Reacher, Jack Ryan, The Terminal List, Citadel. Probably Bosch/Bosch: Legacy fits into that niche as well. They've got Cross coming soon, and that Terminal List prequel with Taylor Kitsch, and a Butch Cassidy show. Probably some other stuff I'm missing.

As someone who hasn't played the game, the second half of E1 and all of E2 just felt like fetch quests and cutscenes to me.

Not that they were bad or anything but I was in the "this is a good show that is way overhyped as of now."

E3 was the first one that really hooked me.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4550868/?ref_=tt_eps_top

It's the highest-rated episode of the whole series and one of the highest-rated TV episodes on IMDb with a 9.6/10.

> The Leftovers never intended to give answers

"I don't understand what's happening."

"Me neither ... ... it's OK."

Jeffrey DeMunn as Dale Horvath in TWD.

Although that's a bit off topic as DeMunn wanted to quit and demanded his character be killed off, so he wasn't technically fired.

How do you know what shows are "better" than something you've never seen?

Right that's what I mean. He's a dude I think I would find extremely annoying in large doses in real life, but it works for his show.

I like the show a lot, have seen every episode and most of them multiple times. It's one of my go-tos when I'm in the gym.

Have you watched it?

It's a good background/diversion show if you're into the "guy goes all over the world and eats awesome food" shtick.

Phil himself is kind of annoying IMO, but it works for the show. He has this totally unabashed enthusiasm and joy for good food so the people who cook for him seem to really get a kick out of it.

Are you confused by the passage of time?

They meet after school, he sells her weed, she asks for something stronger.

She, being a cheerleader, goes to the basketball game.

He goes to Hellfire club.

Later, they reconvene so he can sell her drugs.

I don't see how that is remotely confusing?

> It makes me think their biggest problem is shitty editing/directing.

> Stranger Things, The Crown, Ozark

Literally all of these shows have won prestigious technical awards for direction, cinematography, and editing.

For instance The Crown, Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Single-Camera Picture Editing for a Drama Series for the episode Fairytale. That same episode also won the Best Cinematography Emmy.

Stranger Things, Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Single-Camera Picture Editing for a Drama Series for the episode Chapter One: The Vanishing of Will Byers.

Ozark, Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Directing for a Drama Series for the episode Reparations.

The criticism doesn't even make logical sense. Netflix pulls in top talent for their big series. People like Alik Sakharov on Ozark, who also directed stuff like Boardwalk Empire and Game of Thrones and Rome and The Americans. People like Uta Briesewitz on Stranger Things, who was a long-time DP for a ton of HBO shows (most of The Wire, John from Cincinnati, Hung) and then directed episodes of The Deuce, Here and Now, and Westworld.

I bet His Dark Materials would be up your alley.

Maybe Euphoria?

Sex in the City?

Ted Lasso, Invincible, Yellowjackets, The White Lotus, House of the Dragon.

If we're including miniseries then 1883, Mare of Easttown, and The Underground Railroad.