atwegotsidetrekked

atwegotsidetrekked t1_jeg261s wrote

Obviously you have Fascist tendencies. You want to restrict freedom in some weird (and not true) attempt of safety.

But, the only social media that has actually been successful in supporting the overthrow of the United States was Facebook. The only social media that used personal data to manipulate an election was Facebook.

It’s absolutely absurd

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atwegotsidetrekked t1_jee0h7a wrote

Because in a free society, the citizens can decide for themselves to use or not. You are welcome to boycott any app you want.

The biggest issue is that all the worries would be solved with mirroring the GDRP in Europe. Instead of passing a bill that protects its citizens from all the awful privacy issues from both Chinese and American apps, they chose to mirror China in a police state authoritarian approach.

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atwegotsidetrekked t1_jedzn3k wrote

EL5

What the RESTRICT Act creates, in a massive overreaction to concerns about Chinese-based companies, is a system for the US to create its own Great Firewall. Our attempt at pushing back on China only serves to make the US more like China, and stupidly bless their repressive and illiberal approach to banning foreign companies. Warner, in fact, more or less admits all of this in an interview he gave to Russell Brandom at Rest of World. Brandom highlights just how anti-open internet and illiberal all of this is, and Warner’s response is basically “but China made us do it”:

  • But for me, it comes back to the hypocrisy of the Chinese government. China has prohibited American apps like Facebook and Google from their market for years. The Chinese version of Twitter is completely censored by the Chinese government.

So, because China takes a dictatorial, authoritarian, illiberal approach to the internet, so must the US?

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atwegotsidetrekked t1_je4z9fh wrote

The USA sucks at criminal justice.

Your comparison to awful countries proves my point. The United States is the worst among western nations. When your using Saudi Arabia and China as your starting metric for human rights, that’s a fucking low bar.

I am not going to get in the gutter about what country sucks most, I am just saying that the USA is a glass house on human rights both domestic and abroad. But yeah, better than China, low bar.

Do better

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atwegotsidetrekked t1_je4losm wrote

How is saying that China is a totalitarian state support for China? Wtf

I am a US Army Veteran honorable. So I will say what I think when I think it and you resorting to personal insults shows you lost the debate.

The United States with the restrict act is building the legal framework for a Chinese great firewall. This is a fact that isn’t debatable.

The United States could have instead implemented the EU GDPR, that actually protects citizens privacy.

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atwegotsidetrekked t1_je4ili2 wrote

Didn’t know that the bar for democracy and freedom was mirroring a totalitarian society.

But after reading the restrict act, looks like the USA would Rather look to China’s great firewall as inspiration instead of European GDPR, that is much more effective at protecting citizens.

But you know, can’t give up on the surveillance state that started with the patriot act.

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atwegotsidetrekked t1_jb5fh8h wrote

I honestly don’t know why I am responding at this point except to stop disingenuous comments

On Google’s servers

After the data leaves your device, it goes to one of several downstream services, like Google’s own Ad Exchange. Google collects bid requests from all over the Internet: from both sites and apps; from phones, computers, game consoles, and TVs; and from its own as well as competing SSPs. Then it presents those bid requests to hundreds of “authorized buyers”—demand side platforms that represent advertisers. Each of those DSPs has access to a firehose of personal information about millions of different users on all different devices. Google runs billions of ad auctions per day; in the process, it shares data about millions of people and receives millions of dollars from advertisers.

The data being transferred here is all associated with at least one unique ID: this could be the ad ID which identifies your phone, the cookie ID stored in your browser, or Google’s own internal ID for your account. Either way it ties back to you. It can include geolocation information, gender, age, and interests.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/google-says-it-doesnt-sell-your-data-heres-how-company-shares-monetizes-and

And meta isn’t just selling data to the nsa data brokers, but Russia and China (and Bannon’s data analytics)

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-46618582

I am done I made the case. I don’t care about pr campaigns on socials trying to whitewash bad behavior

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atwegotsidetrekked t1_jb5b887 wrote

It is how it works, I have posted 2 solid articles. Here is a third that specifically calls out meta in the first sentence

https://www.scmagazine.com/news/privacy/consumer-privacy-protections-data-brokers-sell-mental-health-info

I have backed up my claim. The poster was a troll who only gaslighted and didn’t even try to back his claim that meta and google didn’t sell data to brokers.

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atwegotsidetrekked t1_jb472et wrote

Pulling up the thread. Dude is a troll account and don’t believe anything.

  • me: 100,000+ karma
  • You: less than 10k
  • me: comes with articles supporting my claims
  • you: no articles and use gaslighting as an argument
  • me: comes with facts to support my argument, I don’t need to provide my resume because I actually know what I am talking about
  • you: I am a security engineer “trust me bro”

Whatever posting here so others don’t waste time arguing with the trolls

Only 2 online advertisers google and meta:

On Friday, Rep. Anna Eshoo asked the Federal Trade Commission to investigate newly revealed police software, known as Fog Reveal, which allows law enforcement agencies to map the movements of Americans “months back in time.” That service relies not on netflow data, but location data culled from hundreds of consumer apps, purportedly for advertising purposes.

ncis whistleblower

There is only 2 advertisement companies on the net for most of the market google and meta

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atwegotsidetrekked t1_jb46o2n wrote

  • me: 100,000+ karma
  • You: less than 10k
  • me: comes with articles supporting my claims
  • you: no articles and use gaslighting as an argument
  • me: comes with facts to support my argument, I don’t need to provide my resume because I actually know what I am talking about
  • you: I am a security engineer “trust me bro”

Whatever

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atwegotsidetrekked t1_jb43k3o wrote

Do you work at a disinformation campaign center?

On Friday, Rep. Anna Eshoo asked the Federal Trade Commission to investigate newly revealed police software, known as Fog Reveal, which allows law enforcement agencies to map the movements of Americans “months back in time.” That service relies not on netflow data, but location data culled from hundreds of consumer apps, purportedly for advertising purposes.

ncis whistleblower

There is only 2 advertisement companies on the net for most of the market google and meta

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