If it came down to it, would you volunteer to have your child die a martyr and as a symbol for fair wages/better working conditions for nurses? If it was your child’s life on the line would you also be accepting of the unintended consequence all for the betterment of future kids/lives of those who will care for future patients?

No because I quit and am no longer responsible for what happens the second I walk out the door on my last day. But assuming I didn’t come in one day because I practiced my right to strike or I just wasn’t feeling it cause I was hungover, and for whatever reason my company couldn’t find a replacement, I would have a sense of guilt and to a certain extent feel responsible for bad things that happened which I would’ve been able to prevent had I been there.

Ie If I’m a security guard in the Louvre and we all didn’t show up to work on Monday for whatever reason and a bunch of thieves decide to steal the Mona Lisa on that day, then I’d feel directly responsible for why that very famous art work is lost and will probably be sitting in the house if whatever shady billionaire buys it from the dark web

But we see this happen all the time with cyclist in NYC - cyclists turn a corner when they don’t have the light or right of way, get hit with a semi, they die and we blame the city for not giving safe and protected bike lanes when the cyclist could have saved their own life had they waited their turn

On the one hand the cyclist would’ve indeed been safe if he had his own barricaded lane. On the other hand we share the road with bikes trucks cars you name it.

Very fair points. Now if you remove spectator bias and assume the position of the father/mother of the baby who died, can you honestly say you hold zero remorse against the nurses who would’ve been stationed to care for you and your kid had there not been a strike/unfair working conditions?

I feel it to be a justifiable question though I understand it’s a controversial one. To attack the thought of saying the underdog side is responsible without even justifying without offense is dancing around the point. We can’t just accept truth for what it is without explaining why.

It seems that your thought process is “people who are tasked to sustain and maintain public health/safety are not to blame if they decide to stop working due to unfair working and compensation conditions.” If we cut cops’ salaries and a significant number of them quit resulting shortage in staff or they all go on strike, and opportunistic criminals take advantage do whatever they want, do we still blame whoever is in charge of allocating budget for the cops salary instead of the actual individuals who quit?

Good argument but in a more extreme example, will it still be the case? What if all American citizens cease to pay taxes because of unfair living conditions and quality of life. And I’m so doing all city-paid workers don’t get paid and they all stop doing their jobs (teachers stop showing up to school and kids are left without education, sanitation stops taking trash and we have increase rodents and pests prescience and health risks, cops stop doing whatever cops do and criminals take advantage of the situation to wreak havoc, list goes on and on.

Considering you are now a victim since your kids don’t get education, there’s trash outside your house for weeks, and you have to board up your windows from opportunistic criminals, Will you still blame the government for pushing people to go this far, or will you blame everyone who played a part?

i feel like it’s always easy to blame the big leader if we’re not the victims (ie not it wasn’t our kid who died because of this whole strike debacle)

From a philosophical standpoint point, I’m really wondering who bears responsibility.

Mount Sinai management may have been responsible for why nurses went on strike to begin with, but the nurses who would’ve been stationed to newborn care and arguably could’ve prevented the death ultimately had a choice - go to work or don’t to fight for a cause.

On the one hand, management may have caused the reason why nurses weren’t available to look after patients. On the other it was the nurse’s absence that lead to death.