Good to know if your rich and white, you can pay to not have actual life changing consequences for breaking the law and causing harm to others.

I bet he’ll sleep well tonight with a fat bank account in one of his mansions. No food stamps for him. No struggle to find a new job to put food on the table. No worrying about how he is going to get his life together again. Must be nice

and this

$30 says he only trusts Fox News

Exactly

I mean I get the reason and I like the intent and the effort. Jim Masland (D-Thetford) has his heart in the right place, but needs to google “embedded carbon” because then he’d understand that It’s fucking stupid to turn our backs on already developed and accessible carbon free low cost power.

watch these videos to learn how this sucks today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMBdpXGwVlY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8lMf2LDgbA

there are Tons of them in the works. and the more demand the market sees for them the more they'll respond, although it might be a while before the pricing starts to fall. that being said, even the Rivian R1T it out and its pricing is similar to premium pickup (74,800) - my buddy has a mid sized GMC that cost more than that.

For any non-tesla vehicle, because our government is in the pocket of Oil, they're not worth it because you cant reliably road trip with them. If we had a common charging standard that was federally enforced, i'd say we're on track - but charging is a hot mess around the country for everything that not tesla

It’s really not worth it because these cars hold huge amounts of electricity and even the best gas generators are hugely inefficient at converting the stored chemical-energy in gasoline to kilowatts- most of the energy is converted to heat and wasted. If this car is legitimately out of charge it was 💯driver stupidity and should be treated the same as someone who purposely drives around with their gas light on and then acts surprised when they’re stranded. This situation is super easy to avoid in a Tesla - if this was a Nissan leaf I say similar thing but have a bit more empathy for the car owner (they’d still be considered stupid in my mind but for other reasons). So this is either staged or some rich stupid asshole trying to get attention.

Teslas attract a ton of negative attention because they legitimately pose a threat to Gas cars and make a ton of financial sense from a total cost of ownership perspective. They’re super nice cars and have a great charging network that makes them super practical if you can afford one. You dont sacrifice anything really with a Tesla. These days especially Elon Lightning’s that attention away for being a dipshit, but lots of people still buy them and do stupid shit all the time because they can get attention if they do something stupid in a Tesla. All the gas-bros and petromasculine folks love to feed that attention. this thread is a prime example.

It wouldn’t, that amount of weight is negligible for range impact on most every EV with the exception of the shitty cheap first gen ones (looking at you Nissan leaf).

Also most generators do not put out anything close to utility grade power quality- this can wreak havoc on the cars internal AC to DC inverters. If you read the manual of any EV (which I highly recommend since it’s essentially a whole new technology that cannot be compared to internal combustion) they’ll tell you never to do that. I cringe (as someone with some electrical engineering chops) when I see folks on youtube do that shit to their $60k brand new EVs - which is why I’ll never buy a used one

Ice fishing is going to become a rarity here, I remember whole villages on the lakes of Vermont when I was a kid, and I don’t see them anymore 😔

Grocery store salmon, caught a whopper the other night. Made for some delicious dinner.

are you hoping for some kind of miracle

It is happening here, it’s a global problem regardless of where the symptoms present themselves. If you have chicken pox, you don’t point at the area of skin inbetween the red bumps and say “no bump here, I am not sick”.

It seems you’re trying to say “you’re not using 💯 precision in the way you present climate change and this is off putting to some people and counter productive.” And you’re right, we are generally never super precise when we communicate complicated problems as a society. Humans tend to simplify concepts to improve the ability to communicate the main idea. If this is something that bothers you, don’t poke the bear online and get grumpy when it growls at you.

If you mean to say that by simplifying climate change on Reddit I am going to cause people to take it less seriously- sure that may happen but honestly it doesn’t matter. If I get just one more person to think about it just a little more I’ve achieved my goal. It’s here, it’s happening, it’s happening to Vermont (ask your local ski resort what they’re seeing). I don’t care if you think todays weather is not because of global climate change - the big picture is what’s important, and being proactively alarmist about this problem is better than saying it’s not happening in my back yard so it’s not my problem. Again you’re being very precise with your argument, but you’re not accurate.

Fun fact! Climate happens across the entirety of the planet, and the atmosphere doesn’t recognize international borders. What that means is if it can happen there it can happen here because our CO2 emissions and their CO2 emissions combine when the wind blows. So either humans get over their arbitrary bullshit and get our act together or we’ll all be getting dead together.

Oh and this

Heat dome shattered records over the holiday

Maybe we agree more than you think- just don’t take away from the severity of the problem by downplaying it. Weather is not climate, I agree, but y’all should be freaking out or changing or freaking out to change. Either way, if we don’t do something like ask “why is it so damn warm here?” we are going to suffer together

One more great video on this:

polar vortex and climate change

Here is a cool tool you can run on your desktop to actually watch the jet stream live:

unh windvis2 from chase ocean Engineering lab

Well I’m glad to hear you don’t think any school children identify as cats, but here is an 8 year old video on why the pattern of warmer winter weather shows this is not just a January thaw.

learn stuff

Furthermore we’ve had more days above freezing than below it this winter so far and it’s January now. For it to be a thaw, we would have had to have had something to thaw first.

Well we agree to disagree then, and your kitty box example is a wonderful place to end this whole back and forth while also showing where you get your information. Have a great night!

I get what you’re saying but I think it’s important that people freak out a little when it’s 55 degrees in Chittenden County on December 31st right after a hurricane force wind storm. It might cause them to think about change, or we can just say “whatever, it’s normal for a thaw”. One of those two actions have the potential to affect change we need right now. But, yeah, you’re right sooo ¯\_ (ツ) _/¯

Here is a fun exercise: take the date you were born and look at the global co2 PPM, and then look at today to see how much change has occurred. Then try to guess at what it’ll be when you’re twice your age today! Fun for the whole family

I hate complainers too, so I turned our collective crisis and inaction into a fun game!

Where?

Truth 😔