We only have lead mining, and none of it is close to Springfield.

And our wells are typically cased 10" steel pipes. Old style wells do exist, but they're rare enough you'd have to know of an abandoned one beforehand. That would be harder to find than just digging a grave.

You won't find anything of note, you'll take the rest of your life attempting it, and won't get anywhere close to finished.

Digging in Missouri is an exercise to try the patience of a saint, or the desperation of a murderer. I can't imagine the amount of work it would take to bury three bodies, even in the best of Missouri soil.

It's a credible idea all around. It's a huge, densely wooded, low visibility, and low population area, and there's no reason to dig in any random given spot.

There's probably parts of the forest surprisingly close to Springfield that human eyes only see every year or so.

Springfield has the unfortunate habit of building for the traffic it has now, not the traffic it will have in 10 years.

By the time the project is finished, it's already obsolete. I've seen it over and over again, over 35ish years of driving here.

Everything they do is a patch, not a future proof investment.

60 & 65 is still half the tiny-ass cloverleaf that was there since I was a kid. Sure, they made the leaves bigger, but they didn't actually fix the intersection. Meanwhile, they've "improved" the eastbound to southbound ramp like twice now because they fucking underbuilt it each time.

40? That shit goes back to before the adoption of Christianity as the official religion of the Roman empire.

Same.

They're in marketing. That is the inevitable endpoint for all of them.

If marches could change anything, they'd be illegal.

I'm over 50 and have lived in the area all of my life.

It's never not been creepy.

Pythian Castle. Rutledge-Wilson Farm. The Japanese Stroll Garden.

Because that proximity advantage, for the bootstrapping phase of orbital industry, is enormous.

Like the previous poster said, the moon is going to be our training ground. But it's also more than that. It's an entire orbital mine with a low orbital Delta V requirement. Lunar orbit is much less expensive to achieve from the surface than Earth orbit. Remote orbital processing will have far less signal lag. Sending crews up in shifts and rotating them down for in-gravity recovery is a fraction of the price it would be to Earth.

We know that microgravity is ultimately catastrophic to humans. We don't know how much gravity it takes to remediate or prevent the damage.

So the moon gives us the perfect, "low" effort testbed. Without the knowledge we can only get on the moon (gravity effects, how to build safe living structures using native materials, how to build low-energy processing facility in low gravity, how to maintain a long term closed ecology of food, waste, and heat), we'd be going into any longer term missions blind.

There are only 3 options for orbital industry; haul it up from Earth, get it from the moon, or get it from a near Earth asteroid.

Near Earth asteroids are, until we develop the capability to actually alter their orbit, effectively a remote deep space mission with pass/fail criticality. There's nothing we could learn from one that we can't learn from the moon, while learning everything else already mentioned at the same time.

Other than scientific inquiry or barring some specific mineral wealth, I agree. Everything we need can be found floating in space except for a gravity well to live in. If we're capable of living in space, why deal with an atmosphere that does nothing but add to the energy cost of leaving it?

The future entirely depends on just what we discover about human adaptation to microgravity, likely from experimentation on the Moon. If we can remain healthy and especially reproduce in fractional gravity, other planets have much less appeal than the moons and asteroids that don't require a huge energy expenditure to reach.

People boarded the Mayflower, and every other colony ship to the New World, without even the guarantee of a return trip or survival at all.

Definitely.

The moon will probably be our orbital industry hub or downtime location long term; we just don't know enough about the interaction with lower gravity yet.

If we can survive on a more or less permanent basis at lunar gravity, it's easier to base there for orbital work: shallower gravity well with no atmospheric drag and closer geostationary orbit for less control lag. Remote work and even shift crews from the moon to lunar orbit make much more sense than from the bottom of Earth's gravity well.

If lunar gravity isn't sufficient for the human body over the long term, it'll still extend our ability to stay in space. We'll just need more crews and more energy to turn them over faster.

And in either case, lunar water and metals will probably be the first source of significant orbital construction material we tap.

It's that new port type, USB-C(honk).

Jesus Christ.

Who just paints over outlets? That doesn't make them stop being electrically active!

I hate to say it but you picked a winner of a condo.

Oh, true, yeah.

That doesn't sound like a wall but more of a stand off. Like somebody didn't want to back it with plywood but had some random lengths of metal channel 3/4 in wide. That's some wierd "engineering".

that's all that was behind it? That's what is concerning. If I was faking a plywood based wet wall that's how I'd build it, 1 ft centers (In reality I'd use concrete board like a normal person, but not in this bizarro build), but if it's unsupported like you said, that's just crazy. It's a pretend wall.

I've long been of the opinion that builders just make shit up as they go along if you aren't there to police them every day for their bullshit. My sister had her last house constructed and had to have them tear out basically the entire stairwell because of just imbecilic pants on head stupid contstruction that they never would have caught if they hadn't gone through the building with a fine tooth comb almost every close of day.

Metal studs are still studs, and can be used as support. They aren't quite as good at holding racking weight, but it's better to be near the upright rather than far from it.

They're super common in commercial construction.

Should be nailed to a stud.

Yeah. Things like oil changes and tires and even brakes I'll do locally, but the 30k and up levels need a dealer to do the transmission and engine, and that's a pain in the ass to drive to Joplin for.

My ex has the Forester model with the shit transmission, and she's had to have it adjusted several times. She's just flat done with Reliable.

Martial Arts USA does BJJ classes, but I don't know if they do no Gi; a Gi is standard for their regular classes and used to be standard for BJJ, but that was quite a while ago, and they have a new instructor since then.

However, they are just south of James River Freeway which is about as far from Bolivar as you can get in Springfield.

Reliable flat out lied to my ex about her and my son's cars. Like an obvious lie (that she needed new brakes and rotors despite the fact she had them inspected and replaced when she got her tires changed just months previous).

She takes hers to Fletcher. I haven't needed anything done to mine yet, but I'll probably go to Fletcher when I do as well.

It was a joke. I should have added the /s.

Everybody thinks it's bullets and beans. It's actually bullets, letters, then beans.

It always is.