I don't know you but I love your personality already! You must be a wonderful person. I myself am an easy going dude and you seem alike. I hope everything goes well! :)

You were very lucky. I know a lady who rejected a guy who went in her toilet and made a shit. Some ladies are very tense about pooping men.

Let it grow, buddy. There's no rush really, since she's at the same gym. Immediately asking everything about her might ruin it, I think it's much cooler to get to know each other in peace, since you don't even know whether you like each other or not. You gained the permission to have a conversation with her in the future too, since the initial step is already been taken and the most polite (and therefore least telling) small talk is behing you, it's way less hard to start again. Maybe eventually you'll want her number or something later on but right know - I think you made the right call.

Maybe it's hacked. Or maybe one just so excited about you that it's viboner won't settle down.

Reading this and yet americans are very sensitive when it comes to nudity.

Unmutilated penis is the norm all over the world. She's being a creep.

Wow, what a shit show over an accident. The world has truly gone tense, fragile and mad. I hope your example works as a "Let's not things escalate like they did with this guy"-type of example.

The word fart is forbidden since there's no shitting-in-pants-kind of things allowed and I had to think of something.

Yes, but if he felt that it was she hugging him, I don't think he got scared. Men are raped, yes, and if you count prisons too, the numbers are close to other genders, but his initial reaction propably wasn't Help I'm getting r*ped compared to if a man would suddenly hug a woman from behind.

I think a man would have quite different initial thought about the 'attacker' though, as an adult man would propably not be worried about getting r*ped. You're right but it's not THAT double-standard IMO.

If a woman would open herself here and told she felt the pressure of being inexperienced and would be worried her boyfriend to find out she IS experienced, would you be equally mad at someone pointing out expectations towards women and tell one that this isn't the place to talk about women's issues?

So, as a feminist, it's your right and duty to supervise in which conversations men's issues are brought up and police that? Eventhough it's a man talking about them, relating them and therefore maybe understanding them?

Because you're a feminist and not an eqalitarian, I find it easy to understand that you fail to see the bigger picture. Because this is about a man, you'd only see the action he did, and refuse to see what made him do it. Why this individual have insecurities men can relate into?

I didn't push any agenda, people just got triggered from it, which isn't entirely wrong because we've had some rational dialogues too, but hatred is always too much and that's my failure since the original comment was too provocative. That's not pushing men are oppressed agenda that's simply trying to understand the situation from man's point of view.

I have no emotions involved in this conversation.

Isn't op a man? And he thought there are expectations towards his performance? What IS more relevant place to talk about men's issues? Why it's so important to you that men's issues are NOT brought up in front of your eyes?

Sobbing reference is tasteless.. It's like screaming your misandry. Let me guess, it's a metaphora of fragile masculinity?

"Go sob about men somewhere else" is exactly the emotional side I've been talking about. You just had to choose the insulting, toxic route. Sensitive topic I'd say.

Isn't op a man? And he thought there are expectations towards his performance? What IS more relevant place to talk about men's issues? Why it's so important to you that men's issues are NOT brought up in front of your eyes?

Sobbing reference is tasteless.. It's like screaming your misandry. Let me guess, it's a metaphora of fragile masculinity?

"Go sob about men somewhere else" is exactly the emotional side I've been talking about. You just had to choose the insulting, toxic route. Sensitive topic I'd say.

People? He seemed to think so, because he ended up getting rid of his virginity with professional help. I've learned due to comments under my comment that those expectations are just imagination of men like op, and there simply aren't any expectations towards men.

Then you must've experienced different masculinity than I had, because I'm having hard time understanding what you mean. How aren't self-confidence, appearance, they way men are expected to represent themselves, what to wear, how to adjust their appearance, basically two sides of the same coin?

They're all linked together, there literally isn't one without the other. But yeah, it literally is a long conversation.

I have no idea from where he'd get his ideas. Nothing to do with masculinity, healthy one atleast.

Umm... Correct me if I'm right but are you truly saying that men that would get bullied about their appearance, you're saying it's internal and because of their own insecurities? It's like it's justified to mock one if he's feeling insecure? Please, help me out here. I don't know what you mean. How are the ones coming from society different?

I get your points and not going to lie, I'm not a bot. My views are subjective as I'm already in the pit by trying to participate this after getting downvoted this much. I can't just exclude my annoyance causing some intentionally toxicity to appear in my speeches under this comment, same way there's annoyance in comments towards me.

I'm trying to find the dark spots in masculinity to develop it, not to defends it's last dark castles.

Oh, I'm sorry. My academic background is super thin and most of my english might seem a bit rude as we Finnish people are famous of being bad at small talk. I'm driving a garbage collector truck so I bsrely have even any privileges expect being harassed way less and not having to be afraid of getting raped. While I try to execute feministic thinking and dialogues, I must often time sound like a complete moran, I'm sorry.

Perhaps other way around. Small sized computer 'nerds,' and such are often mocked as 'virgin boys'.

So instead if comparing each other's experience of dating women, they have made a conclusion completely out of the blue that women have some sort of glass roof of requirements towards men eventhough any non-violent hygienic unemployed would do? I would love to dig in the root reason why that had happened. It sounds rather dangerous tbh.

I don't think it's about expecting the other to be experienced or even a non-virgin but these experiences are a big part of masculinity most of the times. Mostly everyone wants to feel desired, and if that just never happens, I'd imagine it's hard to break the loop and suddenly turn into attractive dude in the eyes of the other. The feel of being desired often helps the self-confidence which is attractive feature. But again, this is just my experience as a man so it's not your widely researched knowledge about manhood and such.

Don't know what one did but decided to comment anyway. Yes, my profile is public and I stand behind everything there is. This is the only account I have and the one doing the digging had like 4 comments in total which implies one's doing a new one everytime. One weaponized the detail in my profile and prevents anyone doing the same to one because one makes a new one everytime. That's why it was ridiculous. The details are there, everyone can see they've got nothing to do with these dialogues. One chose a bad indicator.

You're absolutely right. Being a virgin doesn't usually rise the self-confidence which is highly appreciated in dating, it's not the... being a non-virgin. Obviously people who fall in love doesn't care whether the opposite is virgin or not, but I'd say many men carry it like burden after certain age and that doesn't increase self-confidence which is, again, essential and is seen very attractive. A virgin can be a very self-confident too, obviously but isn't that easy I would imagine.

Who said there's defending in his actions? Hell no. Communicating is a thing and there's tons of other solutions they could have solved this. Ending up cheating is delusional and we should be worried from where these men are finding these expectations that doesn't exist.

I'm not familiar with that umm...hentai plot level trash logic and I don't want to, thank you. I quess it makes more sense to consume cartooned porn rather than real porn made in oppressive misogynistic environment but I don't have enough experience to truly say anything.