Thank you, that's extremely mature of you to say, very very few people in this world have the emotional strength to acknowledge and accept that level of someone else's pain in the way that you just did. I truly appreciate it.

Please don't worry about me too much. If I don't find peace in life, know that I will find it in death, and to me in life, that is a relief. Just thinking about it lowers my blood pressure. I feel more calm just knowing there's a way out. If I first my eyes and picture it, it's the most genuine smile I can muster-- the sadness is thinking of those left behind. But at they've told me for so many years, I need to put myself first, and it seems like that will end up being what that means.

I know that and it's too much for me, it's hard for humans to comprehend but I don't want this and I shouldn't have to endure it so others don't feel uncomfortable

How is this a response

They're not going to ever say nothing, the real LPT is to end the conversation when they ignore that question altogether. Granted it's not 100% guarantee that someone can preconceive of positive evidence that they didn't know of beforehand, but the point is not to show them they're wrong but that they are arguing in bad faith.

Yo but every day is the same I literally have to do the same day everyday over and over and over and over and over and over and this will not change until I die

Days and nights aren't actually split by anything but our perception of them, it's all one continuous existence

This is so foreign to my brain I can't even comprehend it

None of those are on the scale of PLANETARY FAILURE.

Nuclear weapons are human operated instantaneously, and disease you can quarantine, there are methods to stop transmission that can be done on a personal level.

Again, climate change is something that will affect the entire planet. We don't have anything else. There's no magic fix that tech can offer us. There's no other planet to escape to. We have this, or nothing.

Who says I'm belligerently arguing? I get angry when people are presented with evidence and refuse to accept it, because that's willing ignorance.

Before climate change, what threat has threatened the entire planet? One could make the argument that there have been diseases, but there's nothing on the scale of climate change in our history, affecting as many people as it is. It's a planetary problem.

We have definitely NOT averted the worst of it, what are you talking about??

And exactly! What we need is a planetary shift in the way we extract and utilize resources. The system we have has no failsafe or incentive to stop the problems we are facing, and in fact is the cause of said problems. We can hope that innovation will happen, but that's in no way any kind of stable method or excuse to continue on the path we are on.

Normal people living average lives are exactly the people who need to see what's going on and fight for change. The collective is all we have.

In this, the best of all possible worlds

On a personal and effective level? Not really, comrade

I truly hope I'm wrong. Imagine if climate change wasn't real? Holy shit that would be the greatest thing ever. Quite literally the greatest thing ever

What do you suggest? Personally I've given up trying. Sometimes my passion for a continuing species slips out sure but I've given up on the idea that my father will be a part of the future

My point is I can't continue to let people be wrong about this, the actual future depends on it. There is no time to stop. This is like the first time in our species history where that is actually true. Our whole species is facing demise. Letting people be wrong and just going about my life isn't an option regarding the problems we're facing.

That was capitalism

Am I wrong? I hope I am

This is how we end up with a dying planet. Do I choose my father or the children I'll never have cause I wanted peace with my father?

Did they just discover polyculture?

I bet those monks would disagree with you

Me, John cage's 4'33 on repeat