Submitted by Twi2122 t3_yfhlfj in BuyItForLife

Hey,
I'm planning to get my very first cordless vacuum cleaner, because my regular vacuum cleaner is just taking up too much space and effort to use it. I'm also planning to get a pet so I'd need to use it much more often than now. I've always heard Dyson is the king of this category and I'm willing to pay the premium if it really last long and can find spare parts even after years of usage. Also heard about the Xiaomi Mi G10 as an alternative. What's your opinion?

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topcat5 t1_iu3p75e wrote

I don't think anything Dyson is BIFL. Likewise with cordless. Expect 5-7 years with current technology, you might get lucky with longer, but that is generally the design.

BIFL would be corded and something like a Miele.

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Cli4ordtheBRD t1_iu4yf1s wrote

Fuck Dyson. Not because of the product, but because James Dyson is a piece of shit:

>Sir James Dyson, the British billionaire inventor and outspoken Brexiter who called on the government to walk away from the EU without a deal, is moving the headquarters of his vacuum cleaner and hair dryer technology company to Singapore.

Motherfucker did all he could to get the UK to successfully shoot itself in the foot and then dipped out. Fuck that guy.

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thatgirlinny t1_iu5f4gv wrote

He had a LOT of help via the Tories.

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Cli4ordtheBRD t1_iu5zf4w wrote

Let's not forget fuckface Nigel Farage of the UK Independence Party (UKIP), whose push for Brexit gave the Tories the choice between doing what was in the country's best interest and doing what's in their short-term political interests...and the Tories always choose the second one.

Farage would leave politics to work as an anchor for the British Fox News. The UK would go on to execute Brexit, weakening the European Union (to Russia's benefit), reducing their own bargaining power, fucking up their trade infrastructure, weakening their currency, and exacerbating inflationary pressures.

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thatgirlinny t1_iu6idzn wrote

Exactly—that miserable fuck. And I look at dumbass Boris, waiving from the podium again, thinking, “How’s he still a Party leader??”

And they used messaging that said, bafflingly, the NHS would be “better funded” somehow—as well as universities. Exactly the opposite happened, and all the EU-funded departments and chairs at universities across the country found themselves drowning, leading to a huge brain drain as they ran for the exits. I still know people whose careers in higher education haven’t righted themselves.

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_Kapok_ t1_iu498qs wrote

I agree. I have a cordless Dyson and I like it a lot. But we had to buy a new battery after 3 years because it would lose its charge after 10 minutes of use.

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originalusername__1 t1_iu4bvrw wrote

This is honestly to be expected with battery operated tools. There’s no buy it for life batteries, it’s a consumable.

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rockyrikoko t1_iu4uy30 wrote

Along those lines, could the vacuum itself be buy it for life with the occasional replacement of consumable wear components like batteries, filters, bristles, etc...

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Kromo30 t1_iu596xd wrote

No. They don’t manufacture the consumables forever. You’ll get 10-15 years of manufacturer support. Maybe a bit more with Dyson…(?).. but it’s not life.

Even if it is “only” 15 years, it’d still say that’s pretty solid, but not BIFL.

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rockyrikoko t1_iu5cviy wrote

Good point! This could be a sub criteria of buy it for life for companies that do offer replacement parts for decades

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Kromo30 t1_iu6foal wrote

No batteries, but I always like mentioning these guys when this conversation come up because to me, they are the definition of BIFL. https://www.pkgrills.com.

Patented design back in the 50s. Have not changed their moulds since. 70 years later you can still call them up and order parts and they are garenteed to match.

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alexmin93 t1_iu7dmum wrote

If you really want it to be BIFL you can replace cells yourself. Dyson battery is just a bunch of 18650 or 21700 cells connected to a bms board, replace them with new ones and glue ot back

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The_Chief t1_iu5ve9g wrote

I don't know Dyson is pretty good. I just replaced a head and brush on a 10 year old plus Dyson that I bought refurbished. It cost money for the parts but works like new.

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Radioactive-Salmon t1_iu622wo wrote

FWIW, I just bought a third-party battery for a six-year-old Dyson. Larger capacity than OEM, no issues so far (3 months).

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Kromo30 t1_iu6eyyz wrote

Ya, because plenty of people still use your model Dyson. 6 years still not end of life.

That’s the point. How many third parties are going to be making that battery 6 years from now when the vac is EOL and everyone but you has upgraded. They aren’t going to make batteries just for you.

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SaoDavi t1_iu52tvl wrote

I have 2 of them and I feel like I'm replacing the batteries every 18 months. Seem much less reliable than my power tools which also use rechargeable Li batteries.

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SignificantSmotherer t1_iu61het wrote

A vacuum is going to (ahem) suck a lot more power than any power tool, because physics.

That doesn’t stop our ignorant local environmental crybabies from insisting electric garden vacuums exist and function effectively.

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Large_Improvement668 t1_iu7pbsf wrote

Why be a dick? For what reason? It’s so offputting

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SignificantSmotherer t1_iu7zbqn wrote

Indeed, I ask that of them.

They don’t do real yard cleanup, yet are all too happy to impose their narrow and ignorant views on those who do.

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surelythisisfree t1_iu3pv30 wrote

Gotta agree here. Dyson is good enough and better than most but not bifl. I had to send away my corded upright after a year for repair because an internal bolt dropped out of it. This replaced a 7 year old barrel dyson that the end kept falling off and we couldn’t get a replacement for as it was too old.

They’re just good enough in all regards.

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notreally_real_ t1_iu55onx wrote

Yeah Miele definitely falls into the "too much space and effort" category. Our garage is a (very full) woodworking shop, we have no basement and we have one 24" linen closet that stores bulk tp, towels and sheets and cleaning stuff. I literally wouldn't have a place to put it at the moment. The Dyson can be stuck to a wall and put back in 0.5 seconds.

I wish there was an active subreddit for "consumer goods that are decent but not technically bifl"

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bamsimel t1_iu5knwn wrote

/r/QualityofLifeItems

Not sure how well used that sub is, but it's basically what you're after.

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notreally_real_ t1_iu5w6g3 wrote

It has under 1/1000th the subs that this subreddit has, maybe if the mods put it as a stickied redirect it'd actually get some use

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brisk0 t1_iu67801 wrote

/r/goodvalue has a few more subs

TBH I think "the most BIFLish of X non-BIFL category" should be part of what /r/buyitforlife is about

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msomnipotent t1_iu5jq0l wrote

I've had 5 different Dyson vacs over the years. The longest one has stayed intact (not counting attachments) was about 5 years. The attachments only last a few months to a year. The V6 battery lasted less than a year and the attachment lasted 8 months. And Dyson wants so much money for a little bit of plastic when you have to buy replacement parts. I can't see myself ever buying another one.

I have a Riccar Supralite and a Shark Duo corded stick right now. I think this is the best cleaning I'm going to get unless someone invents something radical. I think the Riccar is lighter than a lot of corded models and cleans exceptionally well.

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Ratsmiths t1_iu5ubeh wrote

What did you DO to those vacuums? I’m going on 7 years with my cordless and nothing has broken.

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Blog_Pope t1_iu5x981 wrote

V8 & V10 here, both running fine, I think the v8 is circa 2017, so 5 years on the batter. We have a dog so it get used a fair bit.

The V10 is kinda annoying because when we empty it it tends to slide too far and needs to be put back together, but thats how it comes apart for deep cleaning, so its a minor thing.

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msomnipotent t1_iu6cu6s wrote

Just vacuuming! I vacuum every other day or every 3 days because I have cats and a dog and my husband and daughter won't take their shoes off. My Riccar is probably 10 years old so it isn't like I throw them down the stairs or anything.

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Ratsmiths t1_iu9kv8b wrote

Sorry for your bad luck. I have had rats, cats, and dogs and vacuumed daily with my piece of crap (by todays standards) Dyson cordless. She is still the same as day one. Glad you found something that works for you!

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kzt79 t1_iu5yko1 wrote

Never heard of anything like that, are you doing some kind of heavy duty commercial work? I have a couple Dysons (oldest is over 10 years), and have bought others for multiple family members (3-5 years). All are going strong with no issues whatsoever, no replacement parts or anything (just occasional filter change).

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stormgirl t1_iu673zt wrote

Same here - ours is 12 years +. We have a spare battery we swap out, they each last 15mins on full force.

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msomnipotent t1_iu6dgyl wrote

Nope. It's just a house with 3 people and pets. The most demanding thing I suck up is some cat litter or maybe some stray dog food. My other vacuums have lasted a lot longer than my Dysons.

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coffeeismymedicine11 t1_iu7c78g wrote

We don't even have pets and are careful with our items and that's really about how long things last.... I think people are surprised because these items used to be quality items but when they got popular profit got put ahead of quality.

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MalagrugrousPatroon t1_iu5h27k wrote

I partially agree. The Dyson vacuum mechanical parts might be buy for life, while the batteries specifically do only last five-ish years. I don't mind that, because I hate having to vacuum with a cord more than I hate having to buy and replace a battery on a multi-year interval. I also like not having to buy bags, and only having to occasionally rinse the filters.

Except, bags to batteries, I would take a guess that the battery is cheaper than the bags over a five year period. And more importantly to the question of BIFL, since the battery is easily purchased and replaced, why would that make it less of a lifelong purchase than something like a flashlight which needs disposable batteries, or a vacuum needing replacement bags? It's not like the battery is locked in, as with smart phones, and designed not to be replaced.

Buy the genuine Dyson battery, don't cheap out. The really cheap, Amazon, batteries don't last as long, nor provide as much oomf. The better aftermarket batteries presumably have better life, and do have better power, but it's still less than a genuine Dyson battery.

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manlywho t1_iu6sphr wrote

Dyson sucks I got less than one year out of my last one, went back to a bissel upright after 3 Dysons kicked the bucket way too soon

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FulltimeHobo t1_iuc8lgx wrote

Technically you returned it because it doesn’t suck any more lol

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MeinScheduinFroiline t1_iu5xcbx wrote

They definitely are not. We had one, it lasted just past two years and the replacement battery cost about 45% of buying a new one. Total scam. We replaced with with a Meile and never looked back!

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DudeWoody t1_iu4tkxv wrote

For the folks on this thread that have a Dyson already, but the battery has shit the bed or is about to - you can get battery adapters so you can use DeWalt/Makita/Milwaukee/whatever rechargeable batteries with the vacuum. The adapter costs ~$25~$30 and installs very easily. I can get ~1.5 weeks use out of a smaller battery. Definitely a qol upgrade.

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whatthehellhappensto t1_iu5v62g wrote

can you elaborate?

what’s a battery adapter and how do we use it on a dyson

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Dartser t1_iu66w96 wrote

I imagine it's just a piece that plugs in to your vacuum charge port and you put a rechargeable battery on it.

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DudeWoody t1_iua2jjn wrote

You actually have to take the OEM battery out of the vacuum and it goes in place of the battery, and then you attach a battery to it.

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DudeWoody t1_iua2evm wrote

Pretty much what u/MySweetUsername linked to, but you need to make sure you get the one that's specific to your vacuum model and is built to take the kinds of rechargeable battery that you have. Like for me I have a V8 Dyson and DeWalt Batteries, so I had to get one according to those specs. I think it's like 2 or 3 screws to take the old Dyson rechargeable battery out, and then the battery adapter attaches using those same screwpoints and screws. You can't use the original Dyson charger or hanging dock now, so when the battery dies you have to take the battery off the vacuum and put it on it's OEM charging station (and even without the battery the vacuum still won't hang on the wall mount), but it's a small extra step to greatly extend the life of an otherwise great vacuum.

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Checktheusernombre t1_iu61f4q wrote

Yeah how would you go about this? I have Bauer batteries for my tools and it would be awesome and it would last so much longer if this was a possibility.

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DudeWoody t1_iua4a3s wrote

Confirm which model of Dyson vacuum you have (like for me I have a V8 model) and find the battery adapter that matches. Like if you have a V6 and want to use your Bauer batteries, lookup something like "Dyson V6 battery adapter for Bauer batteries" - seeing as Bauer batteries are Harbor Freight's version of someone else's battery, you might need to do some digging to make sure you get the right one.

It's like 3 screws to take the OEM battery out, you put the battery adapter in its place (using the same 3 screws), and then slide the battery on and off just like your other cordless tools. It's pretty awesome.

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BigBrothersMother t1_iufoqxr wrote

A little off topic but the thing with tools is that once you buy into their ecosystem they think they have you... Ie. Bauer, dewalt, Makita etc. Because the batteries only work with that brand...

But a couple years ago you could start being able to buy adapters on ebay/Amazon (about $15 each) and it changed my world. I had upgraded to Makita from Ryobi for most things but still had some old Ryobi tools that were perfectly fine even tho their batteries had long since died. Bought a few adapters and now use my long lasting Makita batteries with them no problem

This has opened up my world as well since now I buy any brand tool I want or need if I see a good deal or prefer another brands model (Milwaukee, dewalt etc) and just buy an adapter for my Makita battery!

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RavenNymph90 t1_iu6u3i0 wrote

DeWalt makes a good cordless/battery operated vacuum. It’s easily portable.

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DudeWoody t1_iua2ymx wrote

Yes but I already had the Dyson vacuum, so rather than getting a whole extra vacuum, I got a $25 part so I can keep using what I have. Granted if someone has DeWalt batteries but no Dyson vacuum, of course go with the DeWalt vacuum over the Dyson.

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excessivegreed t1_iueud2i wrote

I was very interested in this concept but discovered that the Dyson V6-V8 run on 21.6V and of course Makita is 18V. No problem for regular speed but if you want to use it at max suction it obviously won't work.

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GadreelsSword t1_iu3psgo wrote

https://youtu.be/RTkUNwBo9Ao

I own the Dyson V11. It’s expensive but a great machine. It can be repaired by the owner and the parts are available online. My wife dropped ours and broke the main housing. I simply bought a new housing, with a new motor, control board and trigger assemble. Took 5 minutes to swap the unbroken parts from the original to new housing.

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Forrest-Fern t1_iu62uxa wrote

This is why it's best, easy for self repair and maintenance.

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frollard t1_iu677qn wrote

Came to post exactly this. pf reviews for the win.

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groovy604 t1_iu4jmlo wrote

Here you go, a full comparison by Project Farm

https://youtu.be/RTkUNwBo9Ao

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seabass233 t1_iu4ltzb wrote

I really like the practical way he tests stuff! Unfortunately, he doesn't do long term testing to determine which one truly is BIFL.

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groovy604 t1_iu5oje7 wrote

Ah true, unfortunately i dont think any electric consumer device is bifl anymore

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i_killed_baby_jane t1_iu4dnri wrote

I do not think a cordless will ever have the suck power of corded. I have a corded stick Shark Rocket and it does wonders on pet hair.

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superboringfellow t1_iu5jgj3 wrote

My corded Shark is still kickin after 10 years

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Troutsicle t1_iu5yfya wrote

We've been through 2 of the newer Shark UV580 (Costco) in the last year. With the first one, it just stopped powering on after ~6mo of occasional use and the second one had intermittent shutoff issues with the power brush after a month. You could give it the Fonzie whack and it would rotate for a few seconds before stopping. They ran super hot and the DC motor noise was ear piercing, even more so as the filter needed cleaning.

Disassembled it expecting to find an obvious crimped wire or cracked solder joint...nope. Really liked the vacuum, it was great for a small area.

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superboringfellow t1_iu758hm wrote

>Fonzie whack

Violence and technology are great bedfellows.

That sucks though. Sorry to hear that.

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beene282 t1_iu3vusd wrote

In my experience, Dysons suck. Too much focus on appearance over function. I bought one because I wanted it to last longer than the cheaper ones I had bought before. There were so many issues with the design, it just didn’t work well, and in the end didn’t last any longer than the cheap ones, despite costing almost four times the price.

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CalmPilot101 t1_iu5ykzz wrote

>In my experience, Dysons suck

...which is a good thing, no?

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couldbeyouornot t1_iu4xfum wrote

yep, I agree. and I can't operate anything that requires a constant trigger pull (I think their cordless ones do?)

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BitterYetHopeful t1_iu58gmy wrote

Yes, they do. And I can’t believe I wasn’t aware before I bought it. I waited years and watched a bunch of reviews, too.

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couldbeyouornot t1_iu5ule3 wrote

yeah my hand can't do that!! u/Twi2122 we have this and we love it. there are other more expensive models on amazon and probably on walmart that have different doodads, but this is the specific model we have, and works great for our family of 2 humans and 3 cats.

the issue with having to constantly hold the trigger down on a dyson is a MAJOR PAIN IN THE ASS in my personal opinion, and one of the reasons we didn't go with a different one. I have fibromyalgia and I can't do that!

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scssypants t1_iu5x8hh wrote

Oh I'm glad you posted about this! I'm in the market for a cordless vacuum and am about to see a specialist about rheumatoid arthritis. It didn't even occur to me that it might be a trigger, I had never heard that! Thanks x million, I'm going to check out the one you got. :)

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couldbeyouornot t1_iu603da wrote

It’s the cheaper version of the New York Times Wirecutter pick. I’m sorry about the arthritis—I’ve got some as well. Google wirecutter tineco.

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BitterYetHopeful t1_iu60c2n wrote

Not to mention when you change the attachment or empty the vacuum, I constantly accidentally push the trigger because it’s in a position you naturally will have your hand for leverage. 😂

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Moistlemontowel t1_iu93v3l wrote

Creaky plastic, shoddy feeling build quality. I've used a lot of Dyson cordless es (we have something like 6 where I work) and I don't like them. I can't really say what's better, but drop a Dyson and a piece of plastic is liable to shatter which requires expensive spares or a tape job.

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Dr-Rjinswand t1_iu44j2m wrote

The Dyson is indeed the king of the category, I own a Dyson V15 Detect and it is great. However, bare in mind the category has a pretty low peak. Warranties are short, repairability is flaky, batteries always fail, and even at the peak build quality isn’t there.

For reference, I also own a Sebo X7 which is a considerably better machine. However, it’s heavy, awkward, and a bit of a chore to use. Since getting the Dyson, I am vacuuming much more which says a lot about the advantages. Honestly, from now on I will probably just buy the best cordless Dyson available (within reason) and use it until it breaks and hope a better BIFL solution comes out in the meantime.

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vacuous_comment t1_iu42h5f wrote

I pulled a Dyson V6 cordless out of the curbside garbage. These things sold for 500 or so USD new, so probably worth a look. It has the fluffy powered roller head.

I tested the thing with a friend's charger and battery and found it worked but the our battery was dead.

A replacement was 90 USD from Dyson. It seems very difficult to replace the just then cells inside. I got an aftermarket battery from ifixit or similar for maybe 30 USD or so. The thing works fine.

I bought a charger from ebay or something. I also got the wall mount with extra tools pretty cheap from ebay.

We have it hung in the kitchen now for quick use on small cleanup jobs. For the main part vacuuming we use a european market Miele.

The Dyson is super plasticy and I am always worried things are going to break on it. No way I would have paid full price but rehabbing one from the trash was totally worth it.

Take from this what you will.

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frankslastdoughnut t1_iu3x7l1 wrote

Cordless tech on vacuums ain't there yet unfortunately.

I will never not recommend Kirby for vacuum bifl. Have one from the eighties still out performing everything

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riknor t1_iu4hp2i wrote

What about it isn’t there yet? I’ve had a cordless Dyson for five years and it’s amazing. Never ever ever going back to an old school wired monster, the difference in convenience is night and day.

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frankslastdoughnut t1_iu4nr3h wrote

Never had much luck with cordless and pet hair

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riknor t1_iu50fpz wrote

Understandable. My Siberian cat disagrees though.

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thatgirlinny t1_iu5fnrh wrote

I have a Dyson V12 and a pug that sheds year-round. Love the V12, and have bought a lot of the accessories to use as a smaller hand-held that make it super versatile.

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frankslastdoughnut t1_iu8qegp wrote

Alright then. Granted it's been a couple of years so I'll have to look into that. Thanks

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thatgirlinny t1_iua43kp wrote

The Dysons indicated for pet hair deliver. My husband had the old upright for years with his Huskie. We only got rid of it because I had my Miele coming into the marriage, and he no longer had the Huskie. We bought the Dyson V to keep my mother’s house tidy from all her grandpuppies, and it continues to deliver 2 years hence.

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festiemeow t1_iu50u5r wrote

Kirby is the best vac out there. My parents still use the one they bought in the 80s and it’s a champ.

I have an Electrolux from the late 80’s that I still use. It’s much less effective than the Kirby (less suction power) but it’s nowhere close to breaking down

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probablyatargaryen t1_iu5fizl wrote

I’m surprised I don’t see Kirby mentioned here more often. I bought mine 10 years ago because my grandmother still had one from the ‘60s. Both vacuums still work fine.

I do understand that folks can be turned off by their shady sales tactics, though. I’d recommend buying one online or in an authorized retailer before letting their rep into your home

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alexandertg4 t1_iu4m2vc wrote

I really like my LG cord zero. Been going great for 3 years now.

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st3dav t1_iu62qcz wrote

They came out with a new one too with a mop attachment

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therealmanok t1_iu3xv4z wrote

My Dyson’s battery died just a few days after the warranty expired. They wouldn’t replace it. So no!

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cankle_sores t1_iu723rd wrote

The heck?! Of course they wouldn’t replace it. Batteries are consumables. They die. And apparently that one lasted 5 years.

Did you return your first car after it ran out of gas?

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robottricycle t1_iu3rcmw wrote

We’re really happy with our shark cordless - 2 years old now. Slightly annoying it doesnt have a charge cradle but means it folds smaller.

Would buy again - also have a spare battery so can replace as and when the current ones goes

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riknor t1_iu4i6kj wrote

I don’t have experience on other brands but I’ve owned a cordless Dyson for about five years and it’s amazing. I paid around $250 for it so it wasn’t their most expensive option, however in a smaller house it’s been all we need. Love the wall mount it comes with, easy to snap in place to charge between uses. Still running on original battery and everything just works. I find myself vacuuming a lot more often because of how convenient it is. I bought one for my parents as a Christmas present and they’re using it almost daily as well.

5/5 won’t be buying anything but Dyson after this

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oxymo t1_iu5su4n wrote

People hate on them, but after reading others saying the same thing - convenience = more frequent cleaning, we bought one. Floors have never been this clean. It weighs nothing and isn't very loud, and it performs better than any corded I've used, which have all been cheap for the record.

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Ok_Recognition_4924 t1_iu3w3vf wrote

I do find many instances of vacs dying prematurely is if they’re not cleared or cleaned regularly enough. When there’s a blockage in one section, other sections tend to then cop more work

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jHb72i t1_iu4rr2w wrote

r/VacuumCleaners is the best channel to know more. Ton of great content and analysis on vacuum to fit your needs. I decided to get a Sebo Dart upright vacuum for my needs

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msomnipotent t1_iu5mh2m wrote

Cool! I have a corded Supralite and didn't know that they made a cordless model. Something you should think about is the lack of attachments. I bought a Shark Duo just to get around things like toilets and the grandfather clock. It's also kind of a pain on stairs without an attachment. Plus, they are not made in the USA anymore, if that matters to you. Last time I checked, only their most expensive models were still made in the US. If it came with attachments, I would buy this in a heartbeat even though I don't really need it. My corded version is almost a decade old and is still awesome.

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An_Alone_Wolf t1_iu5ftxo wrote

For hard floors, I have been really impressed by my Makita cordless vac. It's awesome. For carpet, there is nothing better than a plug-in Miele, there is no good cordless vac for carpet, don't even try.

EDIT: I have 2 Siberian Huskies, so I know what I'm talking about here :)

I forgot to mention Festool shop vacs. Not cordless, but excellent machines.

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Nish317 t1_iu5gih2 wrote

I have a Dyson cordless and it’s definitely not worth the price. It specifically said it was meant for dog hair but it constantly gets clogged.

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RRoyale57 t1_iu406tp wrote

Dyson is expensive but they give great support. Using an old V6 from 2015, recently bought a new battery for $99 and it works good as new. Installation is a breeze, 2 screws. The newer models are much superior in every way.

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waterbaby333 t1_iu4q3e1 wrote

I have my moms old corded dyson from like 10 years ago and it still works really well, the hose is broken but if I hold it tight it works good.

Can’t speak from experience on the cordless ones but damn I was in a mall once with a dyson store and would recommend it just for the experience. I got to crush some Cheerios and glitter into their sample rugs and the vacuum cleaned it all away perfectly.

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ekatsim t1_iu657uw wrote

I have a DC07 from 2001 and it’s still working so well that I can’t justify buying a new cordless one 😩

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diarmuidw t1_iu4z7sb wrote

Buy a few cheap robovacs. I’ve 2 and a Henry for the once a month corner/cobweb/diy-cleanup run. Who actually wants to Hoover their house anyway? I like Eufy and have found them to be super. Great Christmas and house warming presents too for less than 200 eur.

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wild-yeast-baker t1_iu5r578 wrote

Yeah, I was gonna say, a roomba is definitely worth it if youre gonna want to be vacuuming every day. I’ve had our i3 for… four? Years and it works great still. We’ve had a dog but just got two kittens and I still CANNOT believe the amount of cat hair he gets even when vacuuming EVERY DAY. Like. I remember having cats as a kid and there’s no way we vacuumed that often. I cannot imagine what our house was like. Lol. Like we weren’t dirty or anything. We had weekly chores, but…. Our roomba vacuums every day 😭😂

And to add, I like, he goes under all the furniture and into the pantry, and the bathrooms and stuff if we leave the doors open. Like, I’m not wanting to vacuum under every piece of furniture every day like that. Even if the dumb robot takes twice as long as I would. I’d rather be drinking tea and working while he’s vacuuming than doing it myself.

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thiswilldefend t1_iu52gtk wrote

i dont think its a buy it for life item... but its damn awesome small and very convenient... i do have the pet one you are talking about and yea... i would buy it again... i suggest looking on ebay for those refurbished by the company they sell them there... for a steep discount.. and it might as well be new when you get it.. had mine 4 years now still going strong... but i do not think its a buy it for life item.... you will still have to replace the battery sooner or later... but i think this is reasonable....

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waukeecla t1_iu56ri9 wrote

Dyson's don't suck - and that's the problem.

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It's not a BIFL but shark is much better

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BitterYetHopeful t1_iu5886b wrote

I waited forever to buy the cordless Dyson V11 Animal. I was so excited. And it has been very underwhelming. The floor vacuuming attachment is great, but as soon as you switch it to any handheld attachment, the suction… well, it sucks. And definitely not in the original definition of the word. Super disappointing for such an expensive piece of equipment. On the other hand, I have an older corded version, and it is still awesome after years of using it.

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drbatman03 t1_iu5e1gw wrote

Not bifl but.... I broke mine. I bought spare part from AliExpress. Cost 10€ shipped and taxed.

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cujobob t1_iu5e39q wrote

There’s no BIFL cordless vacuum because of battery drain and since they’re designed to be lighter.

The best course of action is to buy the best value that meets your criteria. Dyson’s are popular which makes getting additional batteries easier, however, be careful with quality. A battery lasts 1.5 to 2 years IME.

The V8 and LG A…9? Vacuums represent the best value I’ve seen, but lately the V8 has been near the price of the V10 or V11. I’d just recommend trying to keep things as close to $250 as possible and expect to buy (or swap parts) every few years. Totally worth it for the convenience.

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Spanishparlante t1_iu66oyu wrote

Get a Miele and you will not be disappointed ever.

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genetic_patent t1_iu6goqs wrote

My cordless Dyson is 10 years. Replaced battery twice which is normal wear and tear. Also needed to replace the motorized brush. Original part cost as much as a new vacuum so I got a china one that is OK.

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Muncie4 t1_iu6vzvi wrote

My opinion is for you to learn about vacuums as you are currently ignorant. And don't get all butt-hurt over that term as its not personal.

  1. Most cordless vacuum cleaners are bagless which are inferior to bagged model.
  2. Most cordless vacuum cleaners are inferior to their corded cousins in terms of suction, spinning and bag capacity.
  3. You buy vacuums based on floor type...you did not post your floor type, so zero people can help you.
  4. You can live alone or have 42 dogs, your vacuum cares not...the "dog and cat" labels on vacuums are for the ignorant.
  5. Lifespan on cordless vacuums is a gray area as, as a form factor, there isn't a huge run time on them. We talk about 50 year old Kirbys on here a lot, but we've yet to talk about a 5 year old cordless Dyson.
  6. Your best resource is likely the Youtube channel Vacuum Wars though it only speaks to function not lifespan. There is no commonly spoken of BIFL cordless vacuum cleaner.

If you think a cordless is going to best your main vacuum, you are mistaken. We have a Wyze robot....it decreases the periodicity of our main vacuum use. We have a Dyson cordless...it decreases the periodicity of our main vacuum use and is great for small accidents and is quick and drama free. We have two Miele main vacuums which kick the ever living dogshit of the Wyze and Dyson as they sucks like a SOB and are tough as nails....they are BIFL and I'll beat my chest about them. The Wyze and Dyson are probably the best of class for their form factors, but I ain't beatin' my chest about them.

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404pbnotfound t1_iu47kpv wrote

My dad still uses his vorwerk from the 80’s - the engine broke a few years back, and they sent him a replacement engine. Absolutely BIFL customer service.

Think it’s called Kobold 120 or something

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Arbiter51x t1_iu4k6y7 wrote

Dyson would be BIFL if changing the battery didn't require sending the whole unit away for repair. I don't get why power tools have been doing this fore decades, but the geniuses at Dyson can't figure it out.

We have a Dyson. I will not buy another Dyson. Not enough power, terrible performance. Expensive filters which need to be replaced about once a year to maintain performance. (which also produces a lot of plastic waste, becuase the whole end cap needs to be replaced).

I'm done with dyson. I've gone back to corded vacuums like Miele and shark.

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OaklandB00ty t1_iu4oekm wrote

Dyson is on sale at Costco right now. $100 off

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DukeKaboom1 t1_iu4raeo wrote

I have a V11
So far, I have had to replace the trigger (broken plastic inside), replace the filter unit, replace the main wand unit (cracking plastic at joints). I will soon have to replace the main housing, as it is also cracking.
We are far from abusive. It performs great, but the plastic simply does not hold up.
I would not plan on a Dyson lasting more than 5 years, best case. And be prepared to do some maintenance on it.

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DukeKaboom1 t1_iu4rrn1 wrote

I'd pay 1/3 more for Dyson if they would release a model with metal at all the key stress points. Plastic is just not robust enough for BIFL

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ItsNguyenzdaiMyDudes t1_iu546mh wrote

Had a v6 for almost 6 years. Replaced the battery pack twice, and the current battery is on the blink. At £65 for oem or c. £35 for aftermarket battery packs every 2 years, I'd say stay away.

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guimontag t1_iu5g0m8 wrote

The Tineco Pure ONE S11 was the top recommended one by Wirecutter, so I snagged one and it works well. I also have a baseline Miele canister vac but I needed something with a powered brush for rugs/stairs so uhh yeah I have $700 of vacuum cleaners in my house

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no5of7 t1_iu5g0o0 wrote

Tineco. What we have.

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icallshogun t1_iu5la6r wrote

My cordless Dyson experience was pretty bad. It was a fantastic vacuum for about a year with daily usage, then the battery started to go. It would hold a charge for minutes.

Getting a new OEM battery cost as much as buying a brand new cordless from Costco, which is what we had gotten the Dyson in order to stop doing. The non-oem batteries were cheaper up front but only worked long enough to get them out of the return window on Amazon, so it would have been 3 or 4 a year to keep it running. An unreasonable proposition.

In its stead, I've used a Lupe and a Eufy S11. If you've got carpets the Lupe is incredible. I'd put it on par with a high end plug in, and it's priced like it. The original battery is easily user replaceable and it's still working well after almost two years of ownership anyway. The S11 is fine. It doesn't suck as hard as the Dyson did. It also came with two batteries, and while I am seeing runtime degradation after two years, I can still get all my vacuuming done with one charge, after two years.

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[deleted] t1_iu5mnkc wrote

I mean, I bought a $30 vacuum from Walmart 8 years ago. It works fine, sucks up anything I can see on the floor, I use it daily still. The end pops off as does the handle, so you can use it as a dust Buster as well. I do wish it had hose/nozzle attachments though. I also don't have any carpet though

I also have a small armour all brand shop vac (wet and dry use), it's like a 6L capacity or something. It works great for furniture, and the car. The only gripe with it is it tips over easily while using it, which blocks the nozzle to prevent spills, and you have to shut it off fully before it'll unblock. All shop vacs have this feature. I paid $35 for it as well in the car care section of Walmart. The hose is like 3ft long and comes with your typical shop vac attachments, though it's all a little smaller than a full size shop vac

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cloud7100 t1_iu5otzm wrote

Not cordless, but if you want a lightweight BIFL vacuum I’d highly recommend the Sebo Dart. It has a small footprint, is easy to maintain, and has incredible suction despite its smaller size.

There’s no BIFL cordless vacuum, they’re all disposable, even Dysons.

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Apex-GER t1_iu5rhui wrote

The Dysons are amazing... But any cordless vacuum will suck (or rather not suck anymore) after 5-7 years....

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oxymo t1_iu5rpi8 wrote

I read all I could, good and bad, and settled on a Dyson v12, it was on sale, smaller sized, and we have 90% hard floor with a few low pile area rugs. The laser is awesome to see debris, and the carpet attachment sucks a lot out of the rugs. I'm impressed. That said, it's not anywhere near BIFL, it's all plastic and a few good drops would likely break something fairly quick. The filter needs cleaning way to often, which I don't know if that is the common defect I read about or our floors haven't been vacuumed properly before. Decided to give it a few weeks of use before reaching out to support.

tldr; awesome for cleaning the floor for a few years, but not BIFL.

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human_totem_pole t1_iu5tnee wrote

Bought a Dyson oversize in January and the brush bar is coming apart already. Been waiting 12 weeks for a replacement but the support department keeps telling me they have supply chain problems due to the UK leaving the EU. Ironic given that James Dyson was an outspoken Brexard. Terrible quality and it will be the last Dyson I buy.

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Itisd t1_iu5xxr9 wrote

Dyson products are poorly built garbage that only sells because of marketing hype. They are absolutely not bifl.

Also, any cordless device made currently is limited by the batteries lifespan, which likely will be no longer than 6 or 7 years.

I would recommend getting a corded Miele.

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erode t1_iu5yqk7 wrote

I have a Dyson. What a mistake. They ardently hail themselves as design masters, but I have never gotten so many blisters in the short span of 15 minutes as when I handle my Dyson V8.

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techaggresso t1_iu5yvt5 wrote

Shark has some decent alternatives to a Dyson and for nearly half the price. I have one and don't miss my Dyson that much and feels much better replacing a shark than a dyson

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esthymedtender t1_iu60kf6 wrote

I’ve heard from quite a few people that the Dyson battery fails. I ended up buying one off Amazon - iwoly after a few friends said it was good. Under $200 and keeps up with my dog shedding. Overall impressed with it so far, but mostly used on hardwood and low carpets.

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telephonekeyboard t1_iu60psx wrote

I got the Miele cordless, it’s pretty serviceable and I’d hope it’ll last a lot longer than the dyson. The dyson feels pretty junky compared to this one.

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NotAnAd2 t1_iu62rnf wrote

I don’t have a cordless but the shark vacuum is a stick vacuum cleaner so less clunky and has worked very well and is just as easy to store (hangs on a hook). They also sell replacement parts. I feel like it has all the benefits of the cordless with the consistency of a traditional outlet. I have not had it forever but have had no issues in the last 3 years.

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jennafromtheblock22 t1_iu64nd0 wrote

Not sure about any other cordless vacs because I wouldn’t need to use anything other than my dyson lol.

I will note that I am housesitting and the vacuum they have is dreadful. I’m debating literally bringing over my dyson to clean before they come home because there’s no way I’m using that thing anymore than I already have.

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EnderWiII t1_iu64uqi wrote

I've heard good things about the LG CordZero

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hotplasmatits t1_iu66mtc wrote

FWIW: consumer reports doesn't recommend ANY cordless vacs because of their unreliability.

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1BaconMilkshake t1_iu67igl wrote

Dyson's are too aggressive for carpet and may void any carpet warranties if you care. They have continually refused to work with the Carpet and Rug Institute.

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babathebear t1_iu681kj wrote

I bought a Dyson V11, bout 4-5 years ago, still works like new (well almost).

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mname t1_iu685fv wrote

I like the older version of the Shark Ion Duo with removable battery. I work as a cleaner and it’s light weight and can carry a spare battery for when I have multiple units.

Handles sand and pet hair. It’s easy to disassemble the floor head and clean everything. All the filters pull out so I can also wash them out with soap and water or replace them.

Not buy it for life but I bought it used on eBay and have used it for two seasons now. Original battery still seems good and 3rd party spare battery also seems good.

Light weight, easy to maneuver, carpet or hard wood, easy to store. I would purchase again.

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Mrshaydee t1_iu68zy7 wrote

I like my Ryobi - bought through Home Depot. Dyson is great for awhile and then they break, that’s been my experience.

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Timmer594 t1_iu6ag2f wrote

Had a dyson. Like my shark better. Bobsweep was good but the sensors crapped out

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LiosIsHere t1_iu6c37o wrote

Dyson? Ugh. We have one, but they have barely any suction power. Can’t even vacuum the cat litter that get dropped on the floor when the cat leaves the box.

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TheGroundBeef t1_iu6e7g9 wrote

I have a badass SHARK cordless stick vacuum, it works pretty well but my only gripe is the battery doesn’t last very long! Good for a small apartment or just cleaning in the corners etc. or the car

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MotorcyclePete t1_iu6eifs wrote

I have a dyson animal V8 for about 7 years now.. I’m on my third battery replacement (Amazon Chinese battery $27 vs $110 original dyson ) lasts about two years regular use, original lasted 4. You need to take care of it with regular cleanings or of the unit, mine still works really well.

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TomDuhamel t1_iu6qpx9 wrote

If you want something to buy for life, don't get a portable/cordless. But among portables, Dyson is probably the best choice. It will last 3 years rather than 1.

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jjffinbuooibt t1_iu70pnq wrote

No don’t buy one. Mine dies after 10 minutes

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aafdttp2137 t1_iu71mpg wrote

I purchased the LG cordless from Costco last fall. It was originally priced at $399 but I got it on sale for about $75 less after taxes. I have a long-haired dog, so I vacuum nearly every day - it's working extremely well for me. I bought it on the recommendation of a good friend who has 2 cats and also vacuums every day. She's had hers for about 4 years and is still using the same battery packs. I expect to have to replace the batteries eventually on anything cordless, but I'm very happy with this cordless vacuum.

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jantah t1_iu7i0cb wrote

Dyson is not ideal if you have long hair imho

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optintolife t1_iu7lb7q wrote

Bought the dyson v8 on sale, think it is still $350 right now on their website. Highly recommend for the price point. Personally I think all vaccums need a major overhaul every 10 years.

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Lissa86 t1_iu7tu8g wrote

I’ve had 5 Dysons, from uprights, canister & 2 cordless. However, my favorite is the LG CordZero A9. I love that it comes with 2 removable/easily replaceable batteries, it picks up more than my cordless Dysons & so far as lasted longer than both of my Dysons. After about a year & a half, I had to replace the batteries completely—which were almost $200 each. And then the batteries died again. For uprights, Dyson is great, but they’re overrated for cordless.

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tanlines8 t1_iu7u2cq wrote

IMO Dyson is the absolute worst. Had a few and they both died within 6 months. Went through submitting claims and the company sending me multiple new parts and in the end it just stopped working.

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mt379 t1_iud1x8d wrote

Visit R/VACUUMCLEANERS .

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m3phil t1_iu5q8uq wrote

When I only want to vacuum 2 rooms in my house, instead of my entire house on the same day, I use my Dyson cordless vacuum. I mean who wants to complete the job without having to wait until the next day for recharging? /s

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