These photos make it look a lot better than what we saw with earlier renders. Though the 11 is still pretty ugly overall.

What is the point of OnePlus anymore though after being so oppo-fied?

In my experience, software support for OnePlus is just downright awful. Their new phones work great until the next new phone comes out, then they basically give up on keeping features up to date with Android OS updates. The result is that the hardware and software become buggy, forcing the user to either upgrade their phone or abandon OnePlus. I suggest the latter for its user base.

I would actually love to know this because currently I have the OnePlus 9, non-pro, and while I enjoy it, the updates for OOS 12 and then 13, I've continued to have more issues as time goes on and I'm considering jumping ship for my next upgrade.

Is this camera design a copy of samsung flagship phones or the other way around?

Yup, had to wait 6+ months to get the update

That's what made me switch from Xiaomi to Samsung. I had a poco F1 until I upgraded it to the F3 (F1 is still going strong, gave it to my stepdad after replacing the battery) but the software experience was dreadful. Updates were few and far between, and I had an issue with notification bubbles being cut in half that was really annoying, and all the dev blogs said it was a known issue, and a fix would come "soon".

Had 0 software issues with my S21, I complain about the battery a lot, but I knew what I was buying because I wanted a small phone. Already on android 13, and Samsung releases updates regularly, last one somehow made my cameras a bit better, believe it or not! Only thing I miss is the macro mode I had on the poco F3, that the regular S21 does not have.

….you can just install any Android OS you want on it if you don’t like Oxygen OS

OnePlus 6t user here, moved to lineage OS once I stopped getting version upgrades.

Not everybody is that experienced to flash a phone. The point he's making is true. Been there 2 generations of OP, and there won't be a 3rd.

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That was my experience with the one I got. Switched to LG and though I've been very happy with the last two phones I got, my next won't be able to be an LG

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Ah, bought the first OPO. It was good until it wasn’t. They don’t care about maintaining their users. You must rely on custom stuff. On the other hand I bought iPhone X. Still getting updates till now. I guess, better stick with manufacturers that care about products long term instead of “hackers”.

Never going to buy a Chinese produced phone again, so it will be a hard pass for me :) even that I had 2 OnePlus phones earlier.

Had a 3t,5,5t,6,6t and 7t... Jumped shop to a s21 ultra and never looked back. Only thing I miss is dash/warp charge.

Oneplus is dead to me.

Back when the OnePlus was originally designed (the original OnePlus 1), you had a flagship killer at half the price. The value proposition was insane, and you got a TON of extra software on top (fingerprint scanner, actually good screen unlock patterns, shortcuts on screen) that were years ahead of other phones. Was great.

Somewhere along the line, things shifted away from custom and starting looking more and more stock, and the value kept diminishing and diminishing. There’s no reason to buy a OnePlus over an iPhone/Samsung now.

I’ve had a OnePlus 1, 2, and 6+. I personally would never get another OnePlus unless things drastically change moving forward.

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As an avid OnePlus 7 pro user. My phone is absolutely amazing . I don't care what anyone says.. I work at tmobile selling cell phones. This has been my absolute favorite device I've ever used.

LG stopped making phones, so that won't be a problem.

The motorised front camera is Amazing !!!

I don't give a damn about selfies and I love gaming.

A clear full screen without any notch or hole is great !

I bought 6t because of the reasonable price.

My next phone won't be OnePlus.

Absolutely hate this company

Their accessories also suck. Had headphones replaced 3 times in the span of a couple years. Finally gave up and switched

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I’ve had the 7 pro for like four years and I’ve never had any software issues.

I feel the same way. Plus the quality of the phones seem to have gone down. I have a OnePlus 7T and it feels solid. The OS still runs smoothly, I drop it all the time and it doesn’t break, although I have it in a silicon case which I’m sure helps. I got my Mum an 8T and it feels less sturdy. Her screen has some significant scratches, and she is far more careful than I. Given this and the increasing price, I’m also unlikely to get another OnePlus phone.

I have the same phone too! It’s still going strong even after 4ish years.

Still going strong on my 6T after trying to upgrade to 13PM -iOS sucks and it's too heavy-, and a P6P -overheat warning out of the box-.

What percentage of apps on a Samsung phone are unremovable? There's like 3 on my op.

/r/theydidthemath

Android phones are so fucking ugly omg 😂🤢

This is my experience as well. I still get updates too.

I have an older model of this phone. I dropped it from about 2 feet with a case and the screen turned purple to black and it’s bricked. Can’t find a replacement digitizer.

I dropped an iPhone from a rollercoaster ride and it survived unscathed. Granted the back shattered about a month later, but the screen is perfect. The back isn’t too expensive, but I just threw a case on it.

Quality of more expensive (but second hand) phones are much more worth it.

I loved it until it broke.

I'm done with OnePlus. I loved my OnePlus 3 and 7T Pro but they're just too damn expensive nowadays.

OnePlus was great until Carl Pei left. The OnePlus 9 was like the last decent OnePlus. Now, it's basically just an Oppo or Vivo phone with a different name. They even put Color OS on it.

They diluted their own market by releasing 2 or 3 versions of the phone every year. Or: 11 11t 11t+ McLaren edition etc.

Had they kept to one/year they would be much more successful.

Have always been a fan of the OnePlus phones, but the constant releases is why I ultimately switched.

So far the only issue I had with Xiaomi was that I would break the charging port after a few years and then would attempt to change it myself. On Redmi note 3 I ordered the wrong piece but I only learned about it when the same thing broke on Redmi note 7. If I noticed it I might have still been using that phone. The phones are cheap but good although they prob last somewhere between 3 to 5 years. Redmi note 3 lasted me for 3 years,7 is around 3 and still going. I don't really have a reason to upgrade and the phone is still running alright.

Agreed! Except I dropped it a few months ago and the back cracked. Wanting a new phone and not sure the 11 is a good enough value proposition over an galaxy 22 ultra or 23 ultra

Yeah, ordering parts for xiaomi phones is a pain in the ass because they release about 378 billion different models every year, who all are similarly named, like mi 10, redmi 10, redmi note 10, then pro/lite variants, then for some reason they introduced the t models, there's the regular t, there's the t Pro, fucking hell...

ikr lmao

imagine even considering buying androids in 2022 😹😹

Yup! People should be switching to cyborgs by now. 🤓

I'm still using my 6T, and it's been flawless so far.

Not a single picture from the front

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My 8T is still great and I recently ressurrected my old 5 and it did a massive update and is functioning faultlessly.

Personally I've decided to go retro and get a dwemer style automaton.

Currently have a 9 pro and I do miss the 7. It was the better phone.

They peaked at the 7T Pro. I couldn't care less about the selfie camera quality/convenience and only want one for video calls. Give me a phone with a full screen display. Under screen or popup selfie camera doesn't matter, heck even the design that flips over the rear camera is fine too.

I just spent a few days fixing my MMS after my OnePlus 7 Pro updated to Android 12. Sure it's 3 years old, but ... that's not that old. The issue ended up being that the Messages app in the update was bugged so had to switch to the one that Google puts out on the play store.

Overpriced, boring and unattractive. Still trying to ride on the brands early success.

I miss the Cyanogenmod days, too. That was such a great phone.

Hmm maybe it was a software issue for me then if they just drop the ball after a while.

I had the One and it worked great until one day it just ran hot all the time. The battery would empty really fast when used or only last a few hours idling. I eventually changed the battery myself but still the same, the CPU was always under load and hot.

I moved on from OnePlus because their entire thing was being a flagship killer at cheaper prices but every phone from them kept getting more expensive until they just became what they were supposed to beat.

I loved that phone though. The sandstone texture case was nice in the hand, I found it easy to use and responsive.

How did you check? Battery on my 9 pro is getting shitty

Hah yeah that's why I didn't buy another after the One. Got more expensive every model until it became the flagship it was meant to be better value than.

I used to like OnePlus phones but now they cost as much as a Samsung practically. Their support also ripped me off by promising me more for my trade in than they were going to give. I'm done with them.

No CCP phone for me , thanks

How, are you from the future? That phone hasn't even been out for 4 years :D

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I loved it until the battery failed me, swapped it out for a new one, but the battery life remained to be absolutely shitty. Had to charge it twice a day almost every day. Would have loved to use it for at least another year, but it made me switch to the Pixel 7 Pro. :(

My OnePlus Nord n10 software bricked itself 2hrs prior to boarding an international flight. Then, miraculously, I was able to wipe it clean and get it going again.

100% software issue and many other bugs manifested. Will never but another OnePlus again

I am still using OP5 after 4 years plus. Not sure what to change as new OP phone is so expensive now.

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After 4 yrs of heavy use the battery is shit, the rest is bomb

My battery is sitting at 68% original capacity last I checked. But the quick charge helps boost it along throughout the day.

There are features I wish I had like dual speaker stereo sound, or wireless charging. But I agree, pretty much everything on this phone is still bomb. Can't complain to much. I got it on sale with a discount for $280 back in the day. I'm in no rush to upgrade

I just traded my 7 Pro for a pixel 7 Pro because Verizon offered a crazy $700 trade in on it. The pixel feels like a better OnePlus. They're even the exact same size, lol.

I still think the 5T is the best phone ever produced, it had a perfect fingerprint scanner at the best location, sure it didn't make amazing photos or videos, but for me a phone is about being practical for it's use case. The audio quality was top notch, the GPS worked great, the screen was great, it was very flat and lasted two whole days for me for battery. I still think about that phone daily.

I also have an OP5, but just bought a Google Pixel 7 because OnePlus just isn’t a flagship killer brand anymore. Their phones have gotten too expensive for their quality.

I was searching for the pixel too LOL but 5a. Not sure if it is a good upgrade.

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Why does this read like a ChatGPT response

EDIT: all of your comments do, actually… why are you doing this

Ditto. Just got an update last week on my 7T.

Honestly, as someone who was content and happy with the OP5, Pixel 7 is a bit too much of an upgrade for me. (Ultimately chose 7 because I found a better deal at that time.) If you can find someone who has the 5a or go in a store and try it out, that might help your decision-making.

I've used OnePlus One, 6, 7 Pro, 8 Pro, 9 Pro. I'm afraid it's over. Just went over to the Pixel 7 Pro. Way better bang for the buck for the hardware on Black Friday. OnePlus is not what it used to be. It's just not a flagship killer on a budget anymore.

Lol I didn't understand your comment until I looked through "knowledge_adaptables" comments. It does look like someone just automated chatGPT responses lmaooo.

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Hell yeah. This all the way. I love having my full screen watching YouTube. Seeing any notch or holepunch cameras on the screen stop me from upgrading

$700?!?! Was your 1+7 pro in mint condition?

I was absolutely in love with my 6T. Unfortunately, I recently went back to iPhone - partially for missing out on family shared albums etc…

the other was the wi-fi calling support with ATT. I was able to unlock the setting thru the dev settings - but AT&T eventually cut it. And my house has really poor service and it became very frustrating. I had option of signal amplifier - but decided against it. I pay for my parents Cell phones and changing providers had limited options and wasn’t worth the reward.

TLDR; are OnePlus phones ever going to be supported by ATT? It’s BS the rules they put in play

Yup, well - I had the 5. Was brilliant. I've a 9R which is great but not in the way the 5 was, blisteringly fast and the battery went on and on. The finger scanner was on point

What problems were you having? My OnePlus 8 messages have been bugged so I can't participate in group messages properly

On it right now! Love the 7 pro. It will be really hard for me to go to another phone on the future.

My op7 just got upgraded to Android 12 and is running more smoothly than newer phones. The screen quality is noticeably aging in comparison to new phones. I wish I'd gotten the pro at the time. It was like a 40 dollar difference. But it's a great phone that runs a very clean stock android with a few op touches.

Said after seeing an android phone that one time.

Yo!! I think I'm dealing with exactly this right now! My messages app is insanely slow and laggy to the point where opening a conversation can take 20 seconds and there are times the things I'm typing don't show up. It also takes ages for a message to send and lord help me if I'm receiving one at the same time. If this was similar to what you went through, how did you end up fixing it? Please. It's making me feel like my phone is unusable

I was using the default messages app that came with the phone. Instead look for "Messages by google" in the play store and download that. In setting it up, you can set it as your default messaging app. Then just like, remove the shortcuts for the old one and good to go.

Sounds like basically the same issue with MMS messages not working (MMS is the protocol for sending pictures in messages but they also use it for doing group messages). Solution for me was to download "Messages by Google" in the Play Store and use that as my messaging app instead - drop-in replacement and it worked.

Thank you very much. Was it the same thing happening to you?

I have a One Plus and it's the best phone I've ever had. I've had many Samsung flagship phones, they were good phones, but nothing like this one. The build quality is better, the screen is very bright and it works flawlessly. They are a great company and support their products. I'm a big fan.

Oh, and did I say mine cost more than half of the price of a flagship phone from any maker.

Reddit truly is just a simulation lmao

Where are the buds 2

Am I.... am I even real??

Or, “One11” if you’re using JavaScript.

Hey, still rocking my 7 pro too!

I guess rounding up, it has been almost 4 years now.

Hey, I edited my comment, thanks. I checked my phone specs and I actually have the 7 pro, not the T. I've had it for over 3.5 years so I rounded up.

That is my true complaint with OnePlus. They went from flagship killer to full price flagship. The 7 pro will likely be my last because of this. I mean I'd rather a OnePlus to a Samsung for a variety of reasons.... But I'd much prefer finding a new flagship killer to paying a thousand dollars for a phone.

Facts! Unfortunately mine had dust enter the camera lens, apparently a common issue.

My 3 and my 7 pro have both survived everything short of me directly playing it in explosives, my iphone 6 broke from the heat it was producing on its own when not even under load. Literally cracked the front and back.

But with the rising costs of 1+ I'm gonna be looking for a new brand after this one bites the dust. The allure was high end phones at mid-tier prices. They don't have that anymore.

Exact same phones, exact same thought. I hope my 7 pro keeps holding up like it has because I really don't want to swap but I can't justify getting a new 1+ anymore.

They used to. Now they're flagship priced and from what I've heard quality has dropped severely after the 9. Still rocking my 7 pro til the wheels fall off though.

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True. I’m still using 5T. Its body is great too. Battery and Camera are the only downsides it has now. I replaced the battery but it was not working as expected so reverted to the original one. Surviving only because of the fast charging 😅

Thanks for the advice. I'll give that a try since it sounds like I've been having the exact same problem

I had a OP5t and its been my favourite phone I ever had. I now have a Samsung S20+ 5G and its nice, but it has too much bullshit on it. The dash charger for the OP phones is super nice too. I dont keep up with tech trends very much, but I liked the OP5t so much I still recommend them as a brand. They have gotten expensive though, when I was shopping for phones earlier this year, I was kinda bummed how pricey they were. These days I buy second-hand anyway.

Feels.

how did you check the battery compared to original capacity??

You talk like a skinwalker trying to blend in

I see this comment a lot but I'm an Aussie that bought the unlocked uk/global version and I've never had so many updates on a phone in my life, I was a prominent LG phone user before this and I'd get maybe 1 update a generation but I couldn't even tell you how many my 9 pro has had, the latest was in November.

I gotta admit the update to Android 12 was terrible, so unfinished and buggy but wasn't long until the 13 update and it's great again, I skipped the 10 but might for the 11 series.

I hopped off at the 6 for these very reasons. If I'm paying near-flagship prices I might as well just wait an extra pay period and get a flagship. It's going to have longer software support and better customer service. It's a shame really. They really looked like a promising "third option" for a while there

I feel the same about my 7t. Best phone I've ever had. No reason to upgrade at all.

This is my fav One plus phone so far..

I would find out that my front camera stopped working either accidentally or like half a year later.

I'm definitely in the market for retractable cameras

i had a 7T and traded it in after 2.5 yrs because they were stupid and gave me 1000$ tradein on a fold 3. regretted it every day since. the fold3 is a shit show. the big screen is the only benefit. battery life is iffy, charges slow, cameras are terrible for a flagship phone, both screen protectors started peeling away after 8 months. and it cracked falling from a car door sill to the ground.

There's an app called AccuBattery by Digibites. Charging my phone from below 15% to 100% a few times gave it enough data to determine my battery capacity is around 68% of the original design

Please tell me you switched to Nothing like me.

What happened to this company?

Can you pay via NFC out of the box or do you need to apply some odd workarounds?

I can't tell you how many fucking times I've heard this joke having used OnePlus devices for years. Also when people ask what brand and I would say "OnePlus" they would respond, "No, like what brand. Is it Samsung?" And that would go in a circle for longer than I care to admit.

Agreed... I have owned almost every OnePlus since 5. My favorites were my McLaren and Cyberpunk phones. After the battery started to go on my Cyberpunk edition I skipped to the 10Pro. Which is next level bad. I feel like they lost the " IT Factor" that made me a fan in the first place. It is absolutely garbage...

I opened the box and immediately knew I wasn't getting what I became a custom too, No Phone Case, No stickers. They didn't even have a case to sell me according to the T-Mobile store, it was too new( it was out for 2 weeks at the time).

Phone wise, the first issue was the lesser memory without the option of expanding. I couldn't even transfer all my data from my old phone onto the 10pro. I optimized my business to be able to run a lot of programs off my phone. So storage is extremely valuable. I made the mistake of not checking prior to purchasing because it was never an issue in the past.

Next is the glitches. Half the time I don't get all my messages. I can see someone's texted me but If I open the text I can't read it. I have issues sending emails with attachments. OnePlus has tried to fix it a few times and if it works it's for a week until it's back to its normal bs. If my hands are slightly wet the screen flips out compared to my old phones.

I feel like the cost has gone up and we are getting a lesser product. ** This is prior to the inflation we are currently experiencing**.

I'm curious if the 11 is going back to what made us fans in the first place or should I jump ship and go with a Pixel?

Excuse my punctuation I'm buzzed and obviously emotional about this.lol

I switched to the nothing phone because it is clear that OnePlus have strayed too far from their roots. Imo either get a proper flagship or a proper midtier phone.

No, it was different for me - I was just having issues with MMS messages not working. Still, maybe your problem is the app itself and in that case, can't hurt to try a different messaging app

Giggles in Sony

You wouldn't feel that way about the new ones.

Well you'll definitely hate the direction OnePlus has taken now. I bought a 9 in February and dumped it in October for a Pixel 7 Pro, one of my shortest upgrade cycles ever. Too many software issues and OnePlus has shown zero competence with actually fixing the bugs. Loving the Pixel 7 Pro, I'll never buy another OnePlus (and the 9 was my first too).

Also, long time no talk man. Hope all is well! Happy holidays :)

Go with the Pixel. I dumped my OnePlus 9 for a Pixel 7 Pro and the only thing I miss from the OnePlus is the stupid fast charging (the 7 Pro gets to 50% in 30 minutes but takes around 1h50m to hit 100% while the 9 charged to 100% somewhere between 30 and 60 minutes, depending on what the phone was doing while it was charging). Oh and the fingerprint sensor is strangely terrible sometimes and great other times but it's not a big bother for me really.

The 7's robust 5G support is a key differentiator between it and the 5/5a.

I appreciate your honesty thanks

3 years and counting with OnePlus 7T, best phone I ever had by a lot.

Wow, has become a 7Pro love stream.

I have to wholeheartedly agree. Its an amazing phone with great performance. The 'gimmick' of the retractable front camera gives me a nice and clean screen.

I was forced to upgrade to the 7 Pro when my 3 broke on account of someone deciding that trying to run me over on a crosswalk would be a really good idea. Reading what others have said about the later one plus models, maybe im glad to have upgraded from the 3 early now.

Ether in missing it or they aren't showing the screen in the leaked pics...

I still love my launch day 7pro

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Imagine thinking you're somehow superior and unique cuz you're loyal to a trillion dollar company 😂😂

OnePlus have sort of lost their way, there's nothing great about any of the new phones. Looks exactly like Oppo in terms of hardware and OS, priced too close to better phones like Pixel and Galaxy S series.

There used to be a time when OnePlus offered better features at a lower price, now you get neither.

The current one is my first and last OnePlus phone. Coming from Sony phones, it has been nothing but lackluster from the beginning, and the next one is either a Sony or an iPhone.

Using a 6 and I'm happy enough with it. The performance and battery life has definitely suffered though. Still totally usable though. Getting a Pixel 7 next as the new Oneplus aren't the same anymore.

This phone is suppose to support hardware accelerated ray tracing if true this must be the year phones get this feature. I would love to see how phones will handle that.

I loved my 7 pro as well. I only wish I could have replaced the battery.

I had my OnePlus 3 for 6 years. It had some issues with the camera focus in the last year not working properly, and when navigating it indicated me looking into the opposite direction sometimes, but had no issues otherwise. Even the battery hadn't gotten too bad.

The support issue common with every android phone, I'm so sick of it I think I'm finally jumping ship and getting on iPhone. I keep thinking that the dev teams probably don't use of on daily basis, there are issues that should not exist... like sometimes I'll copy and bunch of things and then it won't paste the last item copied...

You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villan. OnePlus kept on living.

OnePlus is dead or at least their original mission statement is null and void. Went from a flagship killer to just a flagship.

Same here - just switched over to a Pixel 7

Still have mine as a back up

Got a Pixel 6 Pro from a Galaxy Note 10 and I absolutely hated it. It's really a horses for courses thing when it comes to personal devices.

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Unfortunately they lost their way...

I've been with OnePlus since the "One" (in the days when you had to find someone on Reddit to send you an invite.

Have had the One, 3T and Nord, wife's got a 6T.

Think we'll both be moving to Pixel 7/8s when our current phones give up.

The new OnePlus phones just feel very bloaty now, have Oppo skins on them, and there are more models than I care to keep track of.

Want a decent mid range phone? Do you get the Nord 2, the Nord CE, the Nord CE 5G? Maybe you want something better - do you get the 10, 10 Pro? 10T?

They've just spread themselves too thin and stopped focusing on what made them great - a solid mid range phone at a good price with no major corners cut.

I think the Nothing Phone (1) is probably the nearest you'll get now to what OnePlus used to be - and I believe the CEO was the CEO of OnePlus before it went downhill.

Snap. I had a 7t, loved it. Great phone then this year I got the S21 FE.

Updated my 7t to OS 12 last week. It made my phone incompatible with my carrier, Visible Wireless (a budget version of Verizon). I specifically bought the 7t two years ago because it was compatible with Visible.

Switched to Mint and having mixed results that I am fairly confident is due to similar compatibility issues. Aside from all the other reasons to drop OnePlus, I'm switching to a pixel because it's just not popular enough to have promised compatibility.

Just switched my 7t to Mint Mobile and currently having mixed results. Has a 7 user that works for TMobile, do you have any insight?

I was a OnePlus fanboy for years. But then their updates started getting shitty. I installed an update on my OP9 and it refused to connect to any carrier network unless I manually programmed it in. If I rebooted the phone it would wipe it out.

That happened two days before a vacation, so I said screw it and bought a new phone that wasn’t OnePlus. If their updates are going to be that trash then I won’t support them anymore.

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I'm still on 6, but assuming I'm not able to find a replacement battery in my country I might have to think about replacing it soon. Can you tell me what's so bad in the latest models that made the brand go downhill?

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From the time android 12 came out on the pixel, it took me over a year to get android 12 on my op8. There were basically no changes from android 11, and then 3 or so months later I got updated to 13. After that everything was buggy or slow. Just jumped to the 13 pro max after being with oneplus since the op3t.

To be fair the iPhone 6 is probably the worst build quality ever in an iPhone.

They went downhill fast after Carl Pei left. He now runs the manufacturer Nothing. They released the Phone (1) this year.

OnePlus was originally about giving customers budget friendly high performance phones by being more strategic about part selection. Now they are just another premium brand that uses the highest quality parts for everything.

Google Wallet worked out of the box for me.

Completely missed that you were asking about LineageOS. Ignore me.

Keep forgetting to set that up lol. Could on my old nexus 6 after rooting and with some magisk modules.

I miss my OnePlus 3T and my OnePlus 6. I would have preferred the 5T over the 6 mainly because they placed the camera just above the fingerprint sensor, so the camera lens was always smudged, but damn they were such great values.

Cheers I have downloaded it and will let it do its magic!

They are just another premium brand

That phone is nothing (pun intended) like the OnePlus One was when it was first released. Or even the OnePlus 6.

The camera improvement is.. well nothing short of shocking. The way these Pixel 7's process the image is just.. next next level.

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