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JerseyCityGeordie t1_jas6uu8 wrote

Jersey City needs a congestion fee for out of town drivers. They need to increase the cost for a permit to drive more people to get rid of the cars that they don’t need and use public transportation (we obviously need better public transportation as well). They need to increase parking fines and increase the number of cars that are towed.

If you don’t like city driving and parking issues, take you and your car out to the burbs where you belong.

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Ilanaspax t1_jasb4fi wrote

They should focus on making public transit enticing and affordable so people feel comfortable going car free.

When people demand JC residents give up their cars it shows there is such a huge blind spot for the rest of the city’s limited public transit access. You’re asking people to voluntarily make their lives more difficult and just trust JC to eventually improve public transit options when we can’t even trust them to keep roads functional.

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down_up__left_right t1_jat0hvu wrote

To be clear this issue happened here That's a 7 minute walk to a lightrail stop and a 6 minute walk to a path stop. It'd be pretty silly to try to say anyone needed to drive to this location unless they were the ones transporting the coffin. People getting to this location can always drive to a lightrail or path stop that does have a ton of parking like the LSP light rail stop or the Harrison path stop.

Of course parking in actual spots in lots by those stations is going to cost more than just leaving cars in the center of the street for free.

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Ilanaspax t1_jat1svu wrote

It is indeed silly to think I’m only talking about public transit access as it pertains to this one individual situation when my comment is replying to someone demanding all cars be banned from downtown forever.

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down_up__left_right t1_jat2fjy wrote

>when my comment is replying to someone demanding all cars be banned from downtown forever.

Actually what he said was:

>Jersey City needs a congestion fee for out of town drivers. They need to increase the cost for a permit to drive more people to get rid of the cars that they don’t need and use public transportation (we obviously need better public transportation as well). They need to increase parking fines and increase the number of cars that are towed.

No where in his post is he arguing for banning cars.

Not sure why you would lie about that when the post is right there for me to scroll back up and see.

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JerseyCityGeordie t1_jaswhc0 wrote

Your lives are already difficult from what it sounds like. If you’re not complaining about public transportation, you’re complaining about parking. When more people regularly take public transportation (not just during rush hour), public trans will have more $$ to make it better.

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Ilanaspax t1_jat2tfd wrote

Awww it’s cute that you really believe anyone in charge is working on improving public transit instead of slowly chipping away at it :)

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JerseyCityGeordie t1_jat4wom wrote

You’re quite the fucking moron aren’t you? Do you think anyone is working on improving the road or parking situation? You could be the dumbest person on Reddit. Please fuck off to Florida or Texas where you belong.

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JeromePowellAdmirer t1_jasl7be wrote

Or you could move to the suburbs (or better yet, Ohio, where there is plenty of land for driving and parking) and quit whining about people wanting to improve the environment, tackle climate change, and allow easy emergency vehicle access. You will be happier in the suburbs. You will be happier in Ohio.

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DaCheatHSR t1_jasbuxo wrote

what public transit? the kind that was all ripped up in the last 60 years? The overcrowded PATH train, the light rail that moves at a virtual walking pace through downtown and barely serves large swaths of the city?

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Ilanaspax t1_jasch09 wrote

Love to live downtown in my 4K one bedroom on top of a path stop and then demand people who were born and raised here give up their car and wait 30 minutes for the weekend lightrail to run their errands if they deign to enter the downtown bubble.

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JeromePowellAdmirer t1_jaslj0e wrote

Love to purposely advocate for policies wrecking the environment and climate to own the libs. Why don't we just rip down the light rail and put a highway where it is while we're at it. Let's bulldoze some houses and turn them into parking lots too. Anything to make life easier for those who "deign to enter the downtown bubble."

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down_up__left_right t1_jat1sab wrote

>wait 30 minutes for the weekend lightrail to run their errands if they deign to enter the downtown bubble.

You might want to check the calendar if you think today is a weekend.

But if the alternative is parking cars in the center of a street, blocking all traffic, and then leaving the cars there for an extended period of time then yes people should be taking public transit to a place within walking distance to both the path and the lightrail.

How long did this guy (and anyone else) have to wait as he was boxed in by illegally parked cars?

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Ilanaspax t1_jat30fp wrote

It’s almost like my comment was a reply to someone demanding we ban cars from downtown in general? It’s okay - reading can be hard for some people :)

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down_up__left_right t1_jat3b1d wrote

>It’s almost like my comment was a reply to someone demanding we ban cars from downtown in general?

As I already said that's not true.

Since the post is there for us all to read we can see that what he said was:

>Jersey City needs a congestion fee for out of town drivers. They need to increase the cost for a permit to drive more people to get rid of the cars that they don’t need and use public transportation (we obviously need better public transportation as well). They need to increase parking fines and increase the number of cars that are towed.

Nowhere in his post is he arguing for banning cars.

>It’s okay - reading can be hard for some people :)

The irony.

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Ilanaspax t1_jat5e1x wrote

Amazing that you did all this and still missed the point - you can’t limit people’s access to downtown without improving public transit infrastructure. It’s classist and shitty to the rest of JC.

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down_up__left_right t1_jat6o5s wrote

>you can’t limit people’s access to downtown without improving public transit infrastructure.

Here we are in a post about people choosing to drive and park in the center of the street for a location within walking distance to both the path and the lightrail and you're saying the cause is lack of public transit. Both of those transit systems that can easily get people to this Church have stations that are park and ride focused.

The reality is these people had transit options and just chose to drive instead. The reality is most of downtown is accessible by transit. Driving through downtown is a choice. JerseyCityGeordie just wants that choice to reflect the cost of the land it requires. Especially since not everyone can afford a car so why should they be subsidizing the cost of parking for other people?

If some people parked in the middle of the road by Union Square in the city would you say "Well maybe their trip didn't originate directly next to a subway stop so the blame is on the public transit system?" Or would you at least agree that would be a crazy thing to say? This isn't that far off from that heighten example. This is a location that people can get to without cars.

>It’s classist and shitty to the rest of JC.

What should we call parking in the middle of the road?

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WarrenBuffetsDriver t1_jauvn75 wrote

>You might want to check the calendar if you think today is a weekend.

If you don't own a car you do not have it on weekdays or weekends.

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JerseyCityGeordie t1_jaswlu7 wrote

The photo in this post is from downtown, 3 minutes from a path station. You’re a fucking moron.

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Ilanaspax t1_jat1ewz wrote

Has anyone ever told you you’re really good at reading?

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JerseyCityGeordie t1_jat5da3 wrote

I am better at reading than you are at writing. You are trying to say people who live downtown near a path don’t have these issues. I am pointing out this photo is literally downtown, near a path you fucking idiot. I don’t care if you were born and raised here (you definitely weren’t) I just want dumb people to leave, you are a dumb person, so I would like you to leave the city.

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WarrenBuffetsDriver t1_jauw2bq wrote

The people who would be fine with bearing the cost of increased maintenance and penalties would be the ones public transportation is already centered around from the community aspect. This isn't "city or parking" issues. It's something against the law. It's not valid parking.

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