902 Brewing to host Paul Fireman backed eventSubmitted by el_tigrox t3_11z8k6k in jerseycity
halocene_epic t1_jdc6z48 wrote
Calling to boycott 902 Brewing because of this is stupid.
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moobycow t1_jdckbtm wrote
Does waiting 45 years for their access and fields have no negative impact?
I don't want it privatized, but at some point you have to fucking deliver.
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moobycow t1_jdcopmb wrote
Honest question, do you know the history of the park? Because for most of those years privatization wasn't stopping ball fields and active use, Friends of LSP was.
That's not to say there hasn't been a shit load of awful proposals over the years (amusement parks, etc.) but the people 'protecting' the park have also been, until basically last week, vehemently opposed to any active recreation.
The local community has every right to be skeptical of pretty much everyone.
njmids t1_jdeirh2 wrote
I’ve been waiting my entire life for the interior of the park to be opened. I don’t support fireman but he clearly saw the opportunity Pessins lack of action created.
ThenIGetAChipwichOK t1_jdcakp6 wrote
Why’s it stupid? Businesses can choose which public causes to support, and the public can in turn choose which businesses to support. I won’t support one that is either a) craven enough to back a billionaire who wants to take land away from the public for a private golf course or b) stupid enough to not realize that’s what Fireman’s astroturf campaign is doing.
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ThenIGetAChipwichOK t1_jdciayn wrote
A cause doesn’t have to be overtly political to be, in my opinion, wrong, craven, and disgusting. I’d urge you to read up on this subject. Sorry, but Paul Fireman isn’t pouring money into this fake grassroots campaign because he loves soccer fields. He’s doing it because he wants to take over part of the park to make more money for his golf course, which you and I will never be able to afford to visit. I promise you that if he succeeds, none of the rich people who come to the PGA events will stop at your brewery. They’ll get on the ferry that leaves from his walled-off golf course and go back to Manhattan.
I, on the other hand, live in walking distance! I like your beer! Love when you have an emo band! I’ve spent lots of money at your place. But this kind of thing is a huge turn off.
I’d encourage to read more about the cause you are hosting: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/17/nyregion/liberty-state-park-nj.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
Stunning_Lingonberry t1_jdcf682 wrote
Was it political when you held a press conference over state regulations with a handful of politicians, including Amy Degise the day before she hit a cyclist? Because I was inclined to support you there, but right now, FUCK 902.
BrewedInJerseyCity t1_jdcfk2f wrote
Yes, state regulations against the brewing industry. Us and every other brewery in the state have spoken up there. It is/was directly in our lane. Read the presser. That is the extent that we ever get involved in politics.
Stunning_Lingonberry t1_jdch1z6 wrote
Well, enjoy losing more business, from actual residents. Whether with the boys after a long day at Cinelease or alone at E and M's, I'll never touch your beer. I love the PATH ipa, but there are other beers that don't support a Billionaire trying to take our park.
njmids t1_jdehsow wrote
Relax bro. “Actual residents” money is just as green as anyone else’s.
el_tigrox OP t1_jdcfwnl wrote
Can you answer if you will be canceling this event?
glo46 t1_jdcosqq wrote
How about you do something more proactive and start a go fund me to cover their losses of the event and the possible consequences they'll face down the road for canceling?
mikevago t1_jdcjy7y wrote
It's absolutely political. The billionaire behind this astroturf campaign is trying to change the law so that private entities can develop public land. And he's trying to destroy the Caven Point nature preserve, (which apart from being a crucial wildlife habitat, is a beautiful spot that belongs to everyone), so he can wall it off for his millionaires-only country club.
Every part of that is political. It's 100% political down to the bedrock. And when you support the deeply shitty politics of a billionaire who wants to destroy a nature preserve and take away public land to make a greasy buck off of it, you absolutely deserve a backlash. Because you took a political stance on behalf of a deeply dishonest cause, and now you're being dishonest on top of that by claiming it's not political.
Tina_Las_Vegas t1_jdchhaa wrote
Ehh not really. Their beer isn’t THAT great
ebastoria t1_jdcmhwo wrote
Went last weekend - honestly the beer was so bad. I’ve gone a few times but I just don’t love the product. We returned the seltzer because it actually smelled like burned hair. I want to support a local business but go to Departed Soles instead!
Goodbye_Sky_Harbor t1_jddbgln wrote
Look man, I agree with all the issues towards this event. But do not get into comparing the beer between 902 and Departed Soles. It's just not a thing you can say with a straight face unless you're gluten free
halocene_epic t1_jddmp6n wrote
Yea departed soles is ass.
Organic-Hovercraft-3 t1_jdeybke wrote
Absolutely. And when you can get other half beers in every store I'm surprised they could stay in business before they started promoting events to privatize the park.
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jgweiss t1_jdcykba wrote
havent been since i tried to check it out in early 2021 and they were happy to go without masks inside the brewery, and got some weird looks for walking in with mine on.
maybe im being unreasonable, but maybe not!
halocene_epic t1_jddlhd5 wrote
Yea pretty unreasonable considering you can’t drink or eat with a mask on. What did you intend to do at the brewery when you visited?
jgweiss t1_jddm2cs wrote
buy some beer and bring it outside, to the many tables available? it just struck me that at a time where people were not vaccinated, and were still not really doing commerce without precautions, nobody had a mask on in the place. i guess they thought the large doors were large enough, and they were practically outiside.
like i said, maybe...but maybe not!
kczar18 t1_jdca8ih wrote
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